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  • Imotepe
    Rookie
    • Sep 2016
    • 143

    #106
    Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

    Actually, I love this part of the game.

    In previous 2K, never been able to get through someone even with a guy like Lebron... that's shameful.

    This year you can feel how strong a player is... but doesn't work everytime either. Seems pretty balanced to me. Playing derozan never been so fun, you can iso properly in this game without being cheated.

    Hope, they won't patch it !

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    • tril
      MVP
      • Nov 2004
      • 2913

      #107
      Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

      Originally posted by ch46647
      Interesting theory. I'll give this a try. What do you have "Lateral Quickness" set to for the HUM / CPU

      Thanks!
      I lowered the ball handler with ball (quickest players) to 50, which matches the lateral quickness setting.

      or you could just raise the lateral quickness to 67, which is the max speed settings for players with the ball (quickest player).

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      • HoustonHarden
        Rookie
        • Sep 2017
        • 210

        #108
        Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

        Originally posted by Imotepe
        Actually, I love this part of the game.

        In previous 2K, never been able to get through someone even with a guy like Lebron... that's shameful.

        This year you can feel how strong a player is... but doesn't work everytime either. Seems pretty balanced to me. Playing derozan never been so fun, you can iso properly in this game without being cheated.

        Hope, they won't patch it !
        but ISO shouldnt end in holding turbo and running into defenders to slip past them. EVERYONE online is taking advantage of this

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        • chemist2720
          Rookie
          • Sep 2017
          • 9

          #109
          Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

          There really is no need to have a C or PF on your team. As far as rebounding, that is all scripted and has nothing to do with rebounding attributes. Run strong SF at center and power forward and run 5 out. It's unstoppable.

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          • chemist2720
            Rookie
            • Sep 2017
            • 9

            #110
            Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

            Originally posted by shayellis
            I did not think it was bad until I played my team online. I'm normally a Pro Am player and this barreling into players to trigger a blow by animations isnt a problem there for me. But in a H2H mode, it really shows. I had a guy turbo down court every possession catch and turbo into the lane right past me and either kick to center for a dunk or rinse and repeat until ball handler gets a lane.

            I put guys on gap on ball and moderate off ball, help and no rotations, etc. and he was still able to blow by me. Idk if its lag online, or whatever, but there was no way for me to cut him off. He would just pass>turbo>pass>turbo. The only thing I could do was play off ball and that would just end up in a dunk.


            This is what happens when there are no counters such as bigger hits in stamina reduction for contact or charge calls outside of holding B.

            What made it worse is when I would do just one dribble move and drive, he would get this "ride me like a backpack animation" that would force me wayyyy off course. Idk how he was able to trigger that, but eh its 2k
            It's pretty crazy how bad this game is online. It's just constant turbo/pass/shoot. I don't even play defense. I leave people open for open/wide open, they're more likely to miss if I actually defend. Getting open looks within an offense is an absolute no-no in 2k.

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            • ksuttonjr76
              All Star
              • Nov 2004
              • 8662

              #111
              Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

              Originally posted by chemist2720
              Just run 5 out and space the floor and hit turbo and run into the defender and you'll go right past him. Wide open lane. I have been getting destroyed online against people who do this. There is no defending it. A lot of people have been doing it online, a lot of people are catching on that 5 out is even more OP than last year. If you play myteam, don't bother with centers. Run smaller players at PF and C. Scott OG falls asleep at the wheel for another year.
              You can't blame Scott OG for that. When it comes to video games, some people are ALWAYS looking for things to exploit. There's realistically no way for developers to anticipate how cheaters and exploiters will approach a game until it's physically in their hands.

              Almost three weeks later, and people are now discovering this? That's pretty good in my book. Besides, it might not even be exploit. It could be a case where the defensive-minded people haven't found a counter yet.

              I only played 1-2 people who did it, but I still won the game.

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              • The 24th Letter
                ERA
                • Oct 2007
                • 39373

                #112
                Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                Is MyTEAM H2H really on Pro? Thats insane....why would a mode where you have thay many high powered players be set on a lower level like that?

                Speaking from a PNO perspective...there are definitely counters to the hip riding animation....in fact I haven't seen it a lot on in NBA-HOF league....its easy to steer into traffic or create traffic around it....they just go with the good ol zig zagging now, lol

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                • chemist2720
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 9

                  #113
                  Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                  Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                  You can't blame Scott OG for that. When it comes to video games, some people are ALWAYS looking for things to exploit. There's realistically no way for developers to anticipate how cheaters and exploiters will approach a game until it's physically in their hands.

                  Almost three weeks later, and people are now discovering this? That's pretty good in my book. Besides, it might not even be exploit. It could be a case where the defensive-minded people haven't found a counter yet.

                  I only played 1-2 people who did it, but I still won the game.
                  I believe he's in charge of defense/AI and both are awful. I just scored 38 with Lebron at point and P. George at Center. Just ran his PG over every play and if he brought the C over, kick to George for 3. Too easy. There is no counter.

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                  • ksuttonjr76
                    All Star
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 8662

                    #114
                    Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                    Originally posted by chemist2720
                    I believe he's in charge of defense/AI and both are awful. I just scored 38 with Lebron at point and P. George at Center. Just ran his PG over every play and if he brought the C over, kick to George for 3. Too easy. There is no counter.
                    Soooooooo...you're expecting real life results with an unreal lineup while abusing the same play over and over and over?

                    That's so stupid, because you're playing the game in a manner that it wasn't intended to play in. Excuse Scott for not programming the defensive AI to handle a situation that has never happened in the NBA. Paul George has never played a SINGLE minute as a center. LeBron has NEVER started as a PG, not to be confused with that he's a playmaking SF.

                    Second, the AI is not human...let that sink in for a moment. Are you playing basketball or are you playing a video game?
                    Last edited by ksuttonjr76; 10-03-2017, 04:39 AM.

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                    • king doe
                      Banned
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 383

                      #115
                      Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                      Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                      Soooooooo...you're expecting real life results with an unreal lineup while abusing the same play over and over and over?

                      That's so stupid, because you're playing the game in a manner that it wasn't intended to play in. Excuse Scott for not programming the defensive AI to handle a situation that has never happened in the NBA. Paul George has never played a SINGLE minute as a center. LeBron has NEVER started as a PG, not to be confused with that he's a playmaking SF.

                      Second, the AI is not human...let that sink in for a moment. Are you playing basketball or are you playing a video game?
                      LeBron played pretty much his whole rookie season as a pg.
                      But other than that I agree with your point.

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                      • awg811
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 768

                        #116
                        Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                        Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                        You can't blame Scott OG for that. When it comes to video games, some people are ALWAYS looking for things to exploit. There's realistically no way for developers to anticipate how cheaters and exploiters will approach a game until it's physically in their hands.

                        Almost three weeks later, and people are now discovering this? That's pretty good in my book. Besides, it might not even be exploit. It could be a case where the defensive-minded people haven't found a counter yet.

                        I only played 1-2 people who did it, but I still won the game.
                        Game Testing and Beta Testing!

                        Every year this game comes out and every year we pay 2k to be their game testers for basically the whole year.

                        12 patches last year and 4 already this year, less than a month in!

                        I've never played another TRIPLE A title that ships out to customers in such an unfinished, untested, and broken state.

                        All of these issues could and should be found and fixed before one game ships to paying customers!

                        If NBA 2k has game testers, every single one of them should be fired and replaced.
                        Anyone that has spent an hour playing this game could have found at least 10 issues that needed addressing before release.

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                        • ksuttonjr76
                          All Star
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 8662

                          #117
                          Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                          Originally posted by king doe
                          LeBron played pretty much his whole rookie season as a pg.
                          But other than that I agree with your point.
                          Kevin Ollie was the starting PG...

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                          • ksuttonjr76
                            All Star
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 8662

                            #118
                            Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                            Originally posted by awg811
                            Game Testing and Beta Testing!

                            Every year this game comes out and every year we pay 2k to be their game testers for basically the whole year.

                            12 patches last year and 4 already this year, less than a month in!

                            I've never played another TRIPLE A title that ships out to customers in such an unfinished, untested, and broken state.

                            All of these issues could and should be found and fixed before one game ships to paying customers!

                            If NBA 2k has game testers, every single one of them should be fired and replaced.
                            Anyone that has spent an hour playing this game could have found at least 10 issues that needed addressing before release.

                            Sent from my 831C using Operation Sports mobile app
                            Then don't buy it on Day 1....it's a basketball game on a yearly cycle. How long do you think it would take 10 people to beta test every possible player combination at different positions on different teams on multiple plays to figure out..."Oh crap! The AI center is not guarding Paul George properly, since he's playing waaaaaaaayyyyyyyy out of position."? Use some common sense.

                            It's really freaking simple. Stop playing the game unrealistically, and you'll stop getting unrealistic results. Also, NO video game is perfect on release.

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                            • awg811
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 768

                              #119
                              Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                              Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                              Then don't buy it on Day 1....it's a basketball game on a yearly cycle. How long do you think it would take 10 people to beta test every possible player combination at different positions on different teams on multiple plays to figure out..."Oh crap! The AI center is not guarding Paul George properly, since he's playing waaaaaaaayyyyyyyy out of position."? Use some common sense.

                              It's really freaking simple. Stop playing the game unrealistically, and you'll stop getting unrealistic results. Also, NO video game is perfect on release.
                              There's plenty of games on a yearly cycle. And since that is your argument, 2k has been doing this for 18 years now.
                              I would think that they could fix things like controller settings not staying. Or server issues that have literally been there since day 1.
                              Or how about the game crashing as you're walking down the street.

                              There's a ton of things, that if they had game testing, they could have found and fixed.

                              Stop making assumptions and quit making excuses for 2k.

                              Name any Triple A title that has as many issues as NBA 2k. You can't, but you'll find a way to assume that I don't play the game right and make excuses for 2k to keep putting out unfinished games.

                              Grow up!



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                              • alecast
                                Pro
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 550

                                #120
                                Re: The disturbing truth about why driving to the basket is so easy this year...

                                Originally posted by awg811
                                There's plenty of games on a yearly cycle. And since that is your argument, 2k has been doing this for 18 years now.
                                I would think that they could fix things like controller settings not staying. Or server issues that have literally been there since day 1.
                                Or how about the game crashing as you're walking down the street.

                                There's a ton of things, that if they had game testing, they could have found and fixed.

                                Stop making assumptions and quit making excuses for 2k.

                                Name any Triple A title that has as many issues as NBA 2k. You can't, but you'll find a way to assume that I don't play the game right and make excuses for 2k to keep putting out unfinished games.

                                Grow up!



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                                It is astonishing to see so many people making excuses for 2K when the game clearly has way too many glitches to be acceptable. But when you think that people find it ok to spend so much more on VC to be able to only play it on line, well, maybe that is what they want: give 2K their money no matter what.

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