I guess there's another update coming later today ("slight buff to layup success")

[killakrok]

Re: I guess there's another update coming later today ("slight buff to layup success"

They stealth nerfed most of the jumpers to cut the green window in half.

I'm prepared to call 2K straight up liars. I feel that is fair due to the proof and facts of 2K saying they didn't mess with shooting, then they post they are going to put it back how it was. If they didn't change it what are they going "back" to?

All they have to do is list whats in the updates. But they don't. My theory is they want to see if what they "fixed" is actually fixed before they say it is. They want to nerf stuff without their "Community Manager" talking to the community. They don't want to publicize how broken it is/was, what glitches, etc were/are in game.

EXACTLY. I've said this same thing about removing the 5-out and not putting it in the patch notes. Not only did they not put it in the patch notes, but they kept "5-Out" listed in the freelance menu and just replaced it with another freelance, directly misleading people as to what it is and having them believe they are running something which they aren't.

If it was big enough to change, put it in the patch notes. If you take it out, actually take it out, don't change it to something else and hope people don't notice.

[ViolenceFight]

Re: I guess there's another update coming later today ("slight buff to layup success"

I don't get how they can do this so early after explicitly saying that they wouldn't do it like they did last year. People were missing layups because:

1. The layup timing changed and most people wouldn't know that unless they seek out the information or play enough to figure it out. Once they do and practice it, the layup %s will go up.

2. People are starting the game with players that have low ratings, as those ratings get higher over time and those players get more badges the percentages will naturally go up. Same thing with MyTeam, the average player right now is much lower rated than it will be in a month as better cards come out, which means we will have buffed layup success AND much better players throwing the balance off again.

3. Using the right stick is a HUGE difference from using just the button, which most causal players complaining about this are probably using. Using the right stick gives you animations that you don't get with the button that often avoid contests all together, making it so you don't have to adjust release timing for caused by a contest, and avoids the lower % caused by the contest all together, thus increasing the sucess %.

4. There is also no layup meter, only a vibration, which many people may not know exists if they play with vibration off, like I did, may not know what the vibrations means since vibrations used to be for simple player contact and bumps, or may not know if it means they are supposed to release the shot at the vibration or after the vibration.

5. The game JUST came out. the percentages should be as low as they will be right now and naturally go up as people get better, buffing them now means that peoples players, cards, and skills will get better over time, throwing it out of balance the other way in the long run.

This post is do full of truth.

I was on the fence about layups until I got badges in mycareer. Then I'd adjusted my timing, and problems went away. Misses made sense.

I started using the right stick exclusively for free throws, and I'm using that to get used to using it for jumpers. There's a split second delay on the button I feel. It's very slight. Like in music terms it'd be a 32nd note at like, 120 bpm or higher. So, a small fraction of time, but definitely noticeable.

On top of animation control, you get better response.

I have not played since the update. I'm going to jump on tonight. I feel like I'm going to be a monster if timing is easier on both fronts. I'll post a reaction tonight

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[kolanji]

Re: I guess there's another update coming later today ("slight buff to layup success"

am on the optimistic side of this coin
for me am saying the missed layups are not the contested ones ppl are speculating but the ones that have no defenders between the ball carrier and the rim even if the defender is nearby by does not affect the shot quality The percentage of making even with good timing was a tad bit on the low end

I don't play mycarrer or mypark so I can't speak on how it is in those modes...but I mean 65 rating or not guys...missing clear to the basket layups at that level is elementary

but contested layups by all means still should go in but if it is going in at a high rate then I get it but from my experiences it was never a problem it was the ones that look like bloopers without the presence of defense

[ViolenceFight]

Re: I guess there's another update coming later today ("slight buff to layup success"

I don't play mycarrer or mypark so I can't speak on how it is in those modes...but I mean 65 rating or not guys...missing clear to the basket layups at that level is elementary

Might want to tell that to Montay Ellis, Patrick Ewing, and the plethora of top players that have missed literal wide open layups. With the game on the line, no less.

Can we stop the "These are pro players so this shouldn't happen" argument? Every single time it leads to actual evidence of it occurring in actual real life games. It's a dumb argument that is super flawed.

Edit: https://youtu.be/9XUPJV_PJv0

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[sudanmalkovich]

Re: I guess there's another update coming later today ("slight buff to layup success"

the update has finally dropped.
not only did they mess up with shooting, but they also f****ed up the speed.

why the hell does the game speed always change with every update?? what kind of filthy magic is this?

[Goffs]

Re: I guess there's another update coming later today ("slight buff to layup success"

the update has finally dropped.
not only did they mess up with shooting, but they also f****ed up the speed.

why the hell does the game speed always change with every update?? what kind of filthy magic is this?

Speed? Is it faster or slower? I wouldn't worry about it since it goes back to normal in a stealth update.

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[jeebs9]

Re: I guess there's another update coming later today ("slight buff to layup success"

Might want to tell that to Montay Ellis, Patrick Ewing, and the plethora of top players that have missed literal wide open layups. With the game on the line, no less.

Can we stop the "These are pro players so this shouldn't happen" argument? Every single time it leads to actual evidence of it occurring in actual real life games. It's a dumb argument that is super flawed.

Edit: https://youtu.be/9XUPJV_PJv0

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Damn Utah with the missed layup lol

But I agree... It's such a flawed logic. I'm really tired of seeing it. Especially from these My Park guys..... Me me me.... That's all they care about.

Really happy to see LeBron misses those too.

[jeebs9]

Re: I guess there's another update coming later today ("slight buff to layup success"

I don't get how they can do this so early after explicitly saying that they wouldn't do it like they did last year.

People were missing layups because:

1. The layup timing changed and most people wouldn't know that unless they seek out the information or play enough to figure it out. Once they do and practice it, the layup %s will go up.

2. People are starting the game with players that have low ratings, as those ratings get higher over time and those players get more badges the percentages will naturally go up. Same thing with MyTeam, the average player right now is much lower rated than it will be in a month when better cards come out, which means we will have buffed layup success AND much better players throwing the balance off again.

3. Using the right stick is a HUGE difference from using just the button, which most causal players complaining about this are probably using. Using the right stick gives you animations that you don't get with the button that often avoid contests completely, making it so you don't have to adjust release timing caused by a contest, and also avoids the lower % caused by the contest altogether thus increasing the success %.

4. There is also no layup meter, only a vibration, which many people may not know exists if they play with vibration off, like I did. They may not know what the vibration means since vibrations were previously used for player contact and bumps that happen in the same context that the new vibrations happen in. They may also not know if the vibration means they are supposed to release the shot AT the vibration or AFTER the vibration, with no shot feedback to calibrate to.

5. The game JUST came out. the percentages should be as low as they will be right now and naturally go up as people get better, buffing them now means that peoples players, cards, and skills will get better over time, throwing it out of balance the other way in the long run.

All Facts here!!

[sudanmalkovich]

Re: I guess there's another update coming later today ("slight buff to layup success"

Speed? Is it faster or slower? I wouldn't worry about it since it goes back to normal in a stealth update.

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it's got slower this time but I see that unusual 2x speed boost way more than before. what I hate about this inconsistent game speed is that it changes the timing of control. very annoying.

[CajN345]

Re: I guess there's another update coming later today ("slight buff to layup success"

I was just asking if there was a buff to layups or if people just got better...and this confirms it...people actually took the time to learn timing and got better......and now we're buffing it.....as well as shooting. Smh.

If Mike does this he needs to tone down fouls on contests man, or buff contests at the rim altogether.....seriously....how do we protect the rim?

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I brought all my foul sliders down to 50/50...out of the box everything is foul

[Rockie_Fresh88]

Re: I guess there's another update coming later today ("slight buff to layup success"

Game is playing cool . Lot of tough shots going down but it’s not causing us to lose.

Wish my SF with defense secondary would get more blocks. I rarely jump ( almost exclusively hands up ) but when I do it’s like an automatic foul.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: I guess there's another update coming later today ("slight buff to layup success"

Game is playing cool . Lot of tough shots going down but it’s not causing us to lose.

Wish my SF with defense secondary would get more blocks. I rarely jump ( almost exclusively hands up ) but when I do it’s like an automatic foul.

Only fair they give us more leeway on defense after these buffs. Show us some love on defense 2K....got me over here shook to press Y, lol

[Koosa1027]

Re: I guess there's another update coming later today ("slight buff to layup success"

the update has finally dropped.
not only did they mess up with shooting, but they also f****ed up the speed.

why the hell does the game speed always change with every update?? what kind of filthy magic is this?

I said something about game speed in another thread, I thought I was going crazy but now I see im not the only one that noticed this!

~Koosa10:27~

[Koosa1027]

Re: I guess there's another update coming later today ("slight buff to layup success"

it's got slower this time but I see that unusual 2x speed boost way more than before. what I hate about this inconsistent game speed is that it changes the timing of control. very annoying.

That explains why the pace of my games are so much better now...update before this one had players running around like they had a fire in their pants. Players were blurry they were moving so fast 😅

~Koosa10:27~

[sactown_13]

Re: I guess there's another update coming laterup success"

That explains why the pace of my games are so much better now...update before this one had players running around like they had a fire in their pants. Players were blurry they were moving so fast 😅

~Koosa10:27~

Happy to hear this. Wish they would just leave it alone. Side note, did you really quote yourself in your signature?