"Buying your Player"

[RobTheGreat21]

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Getting 100k from the pre order bonus and rest will be earn in game.

[TheEndIsNear4All]

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What I truly don't like, (Id say 'understand' but know why) is that they start you off at such an unreasonably low overall. Now it would make entire sense if the story mode was something along the lines of an unknown streetball player, or ball player in general that just didnt make it in college or was injured in his senior year of high school. That would make a 60 overall starting point reasonable. But, like with the 2k19 prelude again, you are a known player, and one who apparently is on the same level of some of the best up and comers in the world. Now how would someone be so known, and on some level respected, if they were as awful as a 60 overall player?? If they are going to rob thousands of players that are just trying to compete in MyPark games, then at least make the story mode somewhat make sense.

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[XxCavaliers360]

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It's such a moot point; I work a full-time job as well... I'm not gonna waste time grinding against the CPU. No shame in that. 2K deserves the money for how much I play their damn game; I get way more than my $60 worth.

[ILLSmak]

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Nobody is mad at you for spending your money. People are mad that you have to "grind" or pay. I'm similar to you: I'm too old for grind. I'm different in that I'd rather just pass on it. Got it last yr and generated a lot of vc without actually playing (simcast or cpu v cpu when I was watching TV or whatever.) still there were badges I didn't finish out. I like to make multiple dudes too, so...

The "anger" isn't really directed at you guys because that's what the game is designed to do. Ideally, we could all bite the bullet and boycott until it was more friendly. Someone was posting that this year it'll probably only take one full season to get your guy to an 85. Haha. It's like gee. I think it should take like a week of semi serious playing to get 85, then maybe let the grind be harder to get way up. Dunno.

We get it tho. All signs point to buying vc being the best option. We're not all scraping for food, yknow going a week without our grilled cheese sandwiches so we can afford to purchase a bball game. Probably everyone who can afford psn sub and a full price game can afford to drop another 50 or 60 whatever it is. It's just sad that the game is so tedious without it. I encourage people who don't understand to try it. Start as a 60. Just one time. Then you might understand our "anger."


Also, re:skill I've gotten worse and worse at 2k the more grindy it became. Still decent tho. I might even fire it up tonight for one last run.



-Smak

[SteveQ]

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You don't have to explain yourself. You buy the game. You do what you have to do to get the enjoyment you want out of it. People are going to complain about VC or DLC (some are already crying about Spiderman DLC) til the cows come home. If people are willing to pay, any company worth a damn will accompdate that. And there's nothing wrong with it.

Bingo. People are gonna say whatever but it’s truly your experience.

[Iasounis]

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I begrudgingly buy VC to max my dude too.

If the entire (or majority) of the community got together and refused to buy VC, things would change...maybe. But, sadly, when weighing the cost versus the time to grind to 85ovr the choice is easy and 2k wins. Not the best to basically give them what they want, but I buy as little as I can. Last year I bout 200k vc, and topped up once.

[Junior Moe]

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Bingo. People are gonna say whatever but it’s truly your experience.

Yep.It seems like the ones who have the biggest issues with it are the ones who would save themselves the most trouble by just buying the dang VC. They clearly care. They want to be rated well enough to compete with the other high rated players. They just don't want to invest the time (which is cool). They don't want to pay, either. Which is cool, I suppose. But this is what it is. Instead they'd rather complain about capitalism. It's crazy. Apparently 2K has adjusted the VC grind but I'm sure that won't be enough, either. Watch.

[ILLSmak]

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Yep.It seems like the ones who have the biggest issues with it are the ones who would save themselves the most trouble by just buying the dang VC. They clearly care. They want to be rated well enough to compete with the other high rated players. They just don't want to invest the time (which is cool). They don't want to pay, either. Which is cool, I suppose. But this is what it is. Instead they'd rather complain about capitalism. It's crazy. Apparently 2K has adjusted the VC grind but I'm sure that won't be enough, either. Watch.

Mm. I kind of take exception to a part of this. Don't want to invest the time, we obviously did. Year after year. But its getting more and more time. It's anger directed at an uncontrollable slope that is affecting your enjoyment of a game. And we believe, maybe wrongly, that if we just bought vc 2k would just hose us more.

I bought vc before. 20 bucks a couple times when vc was easier to earn. It was fair. It wasn't like that in 18 and until we see the entirety of 19, you can't say it's better. Just like saying my league online is gonna be great and work cuz they told you.

I think some of you are missing out on "our" true bitterness and what we are trying to do. It's like you guys are telling us just adapt but back lash changes games, we'll see how it ends up. Life is long. So is the arc of a gaming franchise.


Tbh I feel you are assuming more about us than we are about you. We are doing this for what we believe is a noble cause.


-Smak

[jk31]

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everyone that buys vc is Part of the Problem. nobody buying vc = no vc implementation

everyone should just buy the Standard Version of this game and afterwards Not spend anything at all on vc...

Not that it bothers me that much, i dont even Play any vc related Modes. on the other Hand what me bothers is when 2k overrides all Ingame Stadium dornas with vc Ads.

[ryocoola31]

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you basically admitted that you stepped into 2k's trap willingly and with open eyes. even worse, they've created the trap and offered you to step into it and you thanked them for it ("oh, you made a full price game, in which i either can grind like an idiot or i can skip the grind if i pay you. thanks for being so nice, 2k! here, take my money!!!").

or in other words, what you are saying is, they screwed you from behind but you're too weak to withstand anyways.

What a joke. It isn't that serious at all. Grind from 60 if you want to make your point. Not everyone has time for that. There is plenty of grind to be had after 85.

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[The Gym Reaper]

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The game just needs to hurry up and release so everybody can calm the hell down.

[HustlaCJ]

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To me, I think people look at this all wrong for a couple of reasons, here's why:

1.) First and foremost, the terminology, "The grind". It implies spending hours upon hours doing something unfun and that you don't want to do and aren't supposed to want to do, but have to do.

- The reality is..2k wants the game to have replay value. If it was easy to build and complete your guy in a few days, the turnover rate for 2k games would be ridiculous. Look at most single player games after one play through, no matter HOW much content is present.

- Every game that has a massive amount of content in order for you to reach the optimal version of your character has a long approach towards "the end game content". 2K's approach is HOF badges and 99 rating..it's supposed to take you MONTHS to get there naturally, unfortunately people want the instant results so they spend hours a day trying to get it, rather than stretching the time out reasonably.

2.) Every massive game will always have a "purchase to skip the tedious part" attached to it.

- In theory, it's SUPPOSED to make it fair/balanced for those players who DON'T want to spend the money. Basically saying "Okay if you want to get ahead without working, you're going to have to pay a steep price". 50 dollars is a lot to pay for an amount of VC that can be earned in 3 weeks of playing the game (you'll still have 11 months left until the next one drops).

There aren't very many online games that don't use SOME type of currency to purchase things, whether visual or game enhancing, and as long as they offer you a way to gain that currency WITHOUT money, there's nothing wrong with them also having a paid option.

3.) The 2k community is spoiled...2k has been so over accommodating for so many years, that people have gotten used to crying to get their way. I've never seen a company that releases a yearly game listen to their community and involve their community as much as Take Two does with NBA 2k.

- You want there to be a lot of awesome content, but you want to be able to get it really easy. Badges, 99 rating etc

- You want there to be cool stuff like clothing, accessories, hair styles..but you want it all just handed to you with no currency for the exchange? Not even virtual?

The expectations are extremely unreal and people continue to say "man if you pay, 2k is going to continue to be greedy"...you wanna see Greed..play an MMO...don't tell me 2k is greedy until they make 4 archetypes available at launch and charge you 10 dollars in real money to unlock each additional one...then nerf that build when they release the next one so you feel obligated to unlock the new one..if 2k made it so that you could ONLY get content if you spent real money (Battle Pass etc) then I'd call them greedy...but nah, they give you the same opportunity to gain whatever someone else can get, it might just take a bit longer if you don't pay to skip the line...that's life.

[Bernte]

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What a joke. It isn't that serious at all. Grind from 60 if you want to make your point. Not everyone has time for that. There is plenty of grind to be had after 85.

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okay, you completely missed the point, my friend. as many others in this thread btw.

all the "i buy vc cos i don't have time to grind"-buyers fell for 2ks narrative of them giving the players an opportunity to faster progress in their player development. i would absolutely understand it, if nba 2k was a free2play game. it's not. it's a full price game. everyone in his right mind should tell 2k to f off, for blatantly ripping off their customers. instead, their go like "mmmkay, what a grind! i don't have the time to play through. i buy vc." i mean, it's so bloody obvious what 2k is doing, it's not even funny anmore. still, "mmmmkay, i'm 40 years old and i have a family. i don't wanna grind." that's NOT the right response to the fact that someones ripping you off. that's just naive.

and it's not about if you are better or worse as a player, what some tend to believe, given the responses i've seen in this thread.

[Kleinevos]

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My country just banned lootboxes

Cant buy the packs for myteam or anything.
Making progress!


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[HustlaCJ]

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okay, you completely missed the point, my friend. as many others in this thread btw.

all the "i buy vc cos i don't have time to grind"-buyers fell for 2ks narrative of them giving the players an opportunity to faster progress in their player development. i would absolutely understand it, if nba 2k was a free2play game. it's not. it's a full price game. everyone in his right mind should tell 2k to f off, for blatantly ripping off their customers. instead, their go like "mmmkay, what a grind! i don't have the time to play through. i buy vc." i mean, it's so bloody obvious what 2k is doing, it's not even funny anmore. still, "mmmmkay, i'm 40 years old and i have a family. i don't wanna grind." that's NOT the right response to the fact that someones ripping you off. that's just naive.

and it's not about if you are better or worse as a player, what some tend to believe, given the responses i've seen in this thread.

So, you getting the game or not?