"Buying your Player"

[domrep]

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Long time lurker, first time poster. I never bought VC until last year when, for whatever reason, it just felt like the grind was worse than it had been in years. It took me months just to cross 70 and I have a full time job, a wife, no kids but I was playing just about every other night. I have to give 2K credit because speaking for me, it f's with you psychologically. Here I am, a 65 with the plain gray sweats and gray shirt trying to play a game in Park and the moment I step onto the circle, everyone else jumps off and waits for you to leave so they can all come back in OR they decide to squad up and shut you out. The lack of respect you get from other players because they disregard b-ball IQ at that point, it's all about "I'm an 82, I can't play with a 65." What I have in b-ball IQ, my player can't make up with the attributes that he has at a 65, so the game basically forces you to spend some money on VC, like others have said.

We'll see how it is with this game, I don't mind grinding, but if it's as bad as last year, I'll need a boost. I spent like $10 last year because I caught VC when it was like half off. I see both sides to the argument, it's personal preference at that point though, so in the end, no one is right and we're just going around arguing in circles.

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

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^^ i think that sum it up and also they cant take losing or missing shot a lot. bcoz of records.

I'm a big lurker too but this thread actually has me a bit aggy. What you guys also fail to realize is that people don't have much time to enjoy the hobby anymore and the same mode that they loved that had a much, lighter grind, is now grind heavy and the decision to go into MC was not a decision they made either. However as life goes on, its easy for people who have time to easily "get gud" at the game grinding out, while for the rest of the busy people of the world who only has just a couple minutes out the day to play, they want to simply have "fun" and the grind in this game is no longer fun..its frustrating. So why is there so much **** being flung at people who reasonably have no choice but to "buy" their player just to have fun?

Why are people more mad at the people who are doing what they can just to have fun than you are at the devs for making this a reality? It's not like anyone asked for this. And I KNOW all of yall in here preaching the gospel isn't out here not buying VC so let's not all be hypocritical.

[Juve]

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So because I have a full time job, a wife and 3 kids, I'm lazy if I decide to spend my hard earned money to increase my player some?

Interesting..

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[ILLSmak]

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I don't like to either, but I feel like people should be able to play in some kind of competitive mode immediately. This isn't the same thing as "You just want a 99 immediately!" for the people who are going to come and misinterpret me.

Which is why I said this last year and I'm going to say it again. We need to have the combine from last year as a game mode. Just some generic pro-am builds that aren't maxed out but are good enough where you can play a respectable role. This would actually have been a great way for me to personally find MY best build, to be able to play this year's version of the game and see what's changed from last year. But as it is, you can't really figure out how much you like your build until you pump tons of points in and by then it's too late.

In some shooting games they have "Gotta be level 20 before you play rank" so they don't have noobs, but in most of those games, getting to that level doesn't really take that much time if you prove that you're competent quickly enough.


And from what I've noticed, some builds are more grind-friendly/easy at the beginning. You can get away with a non-scoring big man, but trying to grind as a guard from a 60 is torture.

Yea I like goffs (even tho I dunno him as more than someone I read), but I can't get behind that. They start you at a sixty and they had park t shirts that were like my face when a 60 jumps on. Or something. 70 is actually a viable player in pro am if you put your points in your skills and not just use low cost upgrades to raise your overall. But the fact that people are afraid to get online or feel it's not worth it, to play arguably the flagship mode is worrisome.



Basically I missed the combine, and you also had to do some amount of grind to even be involved. That could be a great game mode as we've all said. Could have elos so good players would not be matched against bad players but I dunno how they'd calculate it.



This would also increase the quality of the meta in 2k lg. That those guys are playing in a sterile different build of the game makes no sense. What is the downside of letting people play a mode just like 2k league, and ranked. It might give new respect to how good those guys are or it might let new people who didn't have the time to grind up or all that end up with social media campaigns like... Why isn't so and so in the Lg.


I am pretty close to done w 2k due to various things, even tho I still post here. I hope something can bring me back but it doesn't seem like it. These modes would be relatively easy to implement, but it's obvious they only want people to go thru the neighborhood so they can see all the gear they want, the skateboards, the gold overall ratings etc.



-Smak

[trandoanhung1991]

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And from what I've noticed, some builds are more grind-friendly/easy at the beginning. You can get away with a non-scoring big man, but trying to grind as a guard from a 60 is torture.

So much this. I made the mistake of going to GSW with my first guard player, that was torture. Literally can't do a single thing. Was a 6"7 sharp playmaker 2-guard. Couldn't defend, shoot, anything. And the plays they set up for 2s mean I have to take the shot, there's no "little things" that I can do to raise my teammate grades in GSW.


Said screw it, made a big man. The gaming experience changed drastically. 7"0 sharp post scorer PF. Playing as a big is GSW's system is freaking AMAZING. The gameplay felt almost perfect, except steals are a little too easy for everyone involved, even at All Star.

[ph33]

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Yeah, and to add to that, the amount of VC you earn is based on performance and you aren't getting much at all if all you are really capable of is moving the ball because you came into the league with no skills or athleticism.

I imagine drills are hard to do as well.


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[ksuttonjr76]

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So, what's the official verdict on NBA 2K19?

Same, easier, harder when compared to 2K18?

[ph33]

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So, what's the official verdict on NBA 2K19?

Same, easier, harder when compared to 2K18?

It's a little easier. the multiplier can make a pretty big difference and it should never have left. Endorsements pay out a bit more.

With all that said, if you are playing as a guard, getting your teammate grade up is MUCH harder this year, so those generally give out less because racking up A+ games are going to be a lot tougher. It seems like when you do something well, it moves the bar up a little, but if you foul or turnover just once, GG, you pretty much lose a letter grade and have to string together a great few minutes just to get back to where you were.

With that being said, nobody is going to use the HOF multiplier with a 60, and a 60 still costs 190k or so to get to 85, so I would say the grind from 60-85 is not any easier, but if your guy is leveled up from the get-go, you'll accumulate more to get a second player faster, if that's what you want.

[ClassicMan]

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Alright breh.

^^^

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[MrWrestling3]

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Yeah, and to add to that, the amount of VC you earn is based on performance and you aren't getting much at all if all you are really capable of is moving the ball because you came into the league with no skills or athleticism.

I imagine drills are hard to do as well.


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It seems like the performance grade is more based on how well you do in your actual role, and doing little things right consistently.More valuable actions (i.e. AST,STL,BLK) carry a bigger reward and also a bigger penalty if you screw them up.

The drills vary, even at a low OVR (70) I found a few drills quite easy,while a few others feel darn near impossible.The drill for Bruiser in particular,really sucks.

Also, don't be discouraged if you don't do well in The Prelude; after China it defaults to HoF, which is annoyingly difficult at the starting OVR, and you literally can not turn the difficulty down until you start your first NBA season.

[ILLSmak]

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Next yr they gonna make you work to buy the vc to fly out of China. Haha cheap trade secret tho is Def make a big. If you don't like big, learn to like it. It might even make you better at 2k. Mad easy to grind up on a 60 as a big, or always has been. You can even use the vc from him on your main guy.



-Smak

[MrWrestling3]

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Next yr they gonna make you work to buy the vc to fly out of China. Haha cheap trade secret tho is Def make a big. If you don't like big, learn to like it. It might even make you better at 2k. Mad easy to grind up on a 60 as a big, or always has been. You can even use the vc from him on your main guy.



-Smak

That's more or less what I did, though not on purpose as I prefer playing the 4 or 5. VC comes easily but man is it frustrating watching your team brick left and right while you try in vain to contain the cpu inside game lol.

[GLegend1226]

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What the person that made this thread, and those that agree with him, don’t seem to get, or want to get, is that because they buy into this crap, because they bought into this crap when it was first introduced when the grinding wasn’t so unnecessarily excessive, because they were too lazy to actually play the game, now these developers and publishers see that this crap turns a profit, and now, years later, they have made the grind so unnecessarily excessive, to try and make people get fed up with that grind, and buy vc.

The fact of the matter is, the only reason that micro transactions have become as big as they are, is because stupid lazy people wanted to take the easy way out.

If people would just stop bowing down to these developers and publishers so much, and just say no, putting this garbage in full priced retail games is not right, then micro transactions would have never become viable.


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Ill tell you, as the OP, I was going to response in a crazy way and take offense to being labeled as stupid and lazy.......but its not worth it so Ill ask this to people who feel like the "mature" person who posted this.

Is your issue that the grind is slow or that people have the option to bypass a portion of the grind? So if the grind was easier, would you still care if I can go to an 85 day one?

I mean you do have options,

Go to NBA live.......
Dont play til you get to a rating where you feel like you can compete........

Some people think paying 60 for a game is too much. So they wait til the game is cheaper to buy it. I choose to buy this game early and put money in a game I play throughout the year. Is it fair that I get a 4 day head start on some people because Im willing to pay more?

Another real life example, is that took my fam to Universal Studios and paid extra for front of the line access. My family and I were able to get on rides 2-3 times before someone in the regular line could get on once. Fair? Some say yes because I paid extra, although it made some other people wait longer. But they had the option to do front if the line access as well but chose not to.

And believe me, Im no rich lazy person. The grind at 85 and up is no picnic. I choose to put $100-$200 in this game, as opposed to buying 2-4 games for the same price. Thats my threshold and thats what I decide to do. If the game was $400, I wouldnt do it because thats out my threshold and what Im willing to pay for MY experience. But everyone is different

At the end of the day like I said in a previous post, we can agree the grind last year was unbearable and should be fixed. But we disagree whos the blame for it is.

But hey......Its 2K day now and everyone has access now for people who is willing to pay at least 60 for it. But the person who is not willing to pay 60, but 40, is in the smae position now that you were in because they have to wait for a sale to get it. Get it?

So if you have an issue, take it up with 2K, not the customers. 2k hears the feedback and acts on it better than most sports gaming companies IMO. Because you'll never satisfy every buyer, as everyone has a different threshold.

Happy 2K Day!!!!

[ILLSmak]

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Go to NBA live.......

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We'll love ya over there bra. There are others. There are others. We are huddled around a burning trashcan haha. Nah but in levity there really are other options. Jussayan.



-Smak

[mfdoom911e]

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At time ,it seems like theres alot of animosity towards people who are accused of "buying" their MyPlayer. And that animosity come from the "grinders". What I mean by buyers are people who invest VC to make their player an 85 out the bat. What I mean by grinders are people who like to start off at the 60 and "grind"to get their MP to 85+

I consider myself a top notch 2k player, like a lot of other ballers do. Been playing it since the original dreamcast. And Ill say this now, I buy the Anniversary edition and I buy VC to put myplayer up to an 85 off the bat. My reasons are simple. I'm 40, I work full time, I have a wife, 2 kids and I can afford to buy the edition and add the VC. I grew up on games and its my way to unwind.
Also, unlike 20 years ago, I dont have the time or patience to start at a 60 if I dont have to. Doesnt make me less of a fan, less skilled (try me if you dare). And I still have to grind for my badges earn my wins on the court like everyone else. In 2k18, I got my guy up to a 93 with maxed out badges.
I play ProAm most of the time. When the season starts I also play 2 full 82 game seasons of MYGM on HOF default. I always get 2 seasons in with the first team. Then I start another season when the trading deadline passes for an updated feel. And I follow that up with a another season starting from the playoffs, reflecting the real playoffs.

But my point of this was not to brag, as I know there are alot of skilled 2k players like me, and maybe some more skilled. But I just wanted to defend the ballers who spend the extra dough for the perks. If you like to start off at the 60 and work your way up, more power to you. I dont knock you at all. Just dont knock me or others because we choose a different way.

To the OP why make excuses?? just say it straight forward ." I dont want to play i game if im not ahead in ratings on the get go, coz i dont want my record to be diminish " no need to make this whole excuses saying your a top notch player but yet here you are saying you cant start with 60?? what you need is an advantage to play online so you wont look like a noob in online world. thats is the reality of you people buying all this VC is to be ahead..not bcoz you dont have time. you playin it all day for sure maybe an hour or so..so you have time...you just want to be better than anybody who dont have access in buying VC like you do.

This thread is actually none sense on the first place i wonder why it made this long. you really dont need to justify yourself, and at the end of the whole conversation, you will just say i dont want to loose all the time. how simple was that?