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  • BOSsTOwN
    Pro
    • Feb 2003
    • 788

    #181
    Re: "Buying your Player"

    I personally think it's dumb to spend over 100 bucks on a video game.

    If the game was free I wouldn't mind paying 50 bucks to boost the player but I'm not paying any extra money on top of the original purchase. Last year I didn't even attempt to play my career or park after I read about the nonsense microtransactions in that mode

    If this year is the same I'll wait for a sale to cop this one like I did last year
    "This game, and series, has nothing but contempt for you (now)"

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    • ILLSmak
      MVP
      • Sep 2008
      • 2397

      #182
      Re: "Buying your Player"

      Originally posted by Walt Frazier
      My Player is a complete farce IMO.

      I am a dinosaur, but I fail to see WHY anyone plays it.

      I played once...played team ball, got myself free, came off screens...i.e. HOW you are meant to play..................and I shot 0 from 7 from downtown.


      Everyone else had high level players they'd paid to 'upgrade'.


      I paid for VC...upgraded my 3 ball shooting....played another game........did all the same things and shot 4 form 7 from downtown.

      In other words, i paid to make those shots.

      Why bother?

      Me v the CPU and that is it for me personally. I fail to see why anyone bothers online.

      Nice to see this thread still going. I don't think things are as you say they are, assuming everything is 100% legit. You raise your rating, you are better. That's acceptable, but being the conspiracy theorist I am, I believe the competition of myplayer is a bit illusory. That is, along w boosting and other raised attributes (like hands) it is a mode where the higher rated player is favored to win, not because they shoot 60% on the same release you shoot and you hit 30%, but because it seems like the ball goes into people's hands who have certain ratings and certain shots, like easy lay ups, roll off when your overall is low. So it's kind of like putting people out there to fail in an active environment, hope they get upset at everyone flopping when they brick a fast break lay up, and cave into buying vc. You go to park and your rating is like 75, nobody will play with you. People may not even pass you the ball in pro am.



      That's my pov on why my career is wack, not because building a player to compete is necessarily a bad idea. You just have to look at the psychology of it a bit more to find it kind of offensive.



      -Smak

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      • trandoanhung1991
        Rookie
        • Nov 2012
        • 372

        #183
        Re: "Buying your Player"

        Playing in the park with a low OVR player isn't necessarily a bad experience, you'll get by and even win, depending on your matchup and your playstyle. That's not really the issue.


        It's actually when playing VS CPU, at low OVR it's just brutal. You literally can't do anything, and you're at best a bench warmer.


        I like to play with auto play calling, it feels dynamic and similar to the real game, and trust me when I say if you don't plan on paying, prepare yourself for a hellish experience...


        You need 190k VC to get 85OVR, good luck grinding that when you barely make 700 for each match at 12-mins quarters. That's nearly 300 matches just to be decent... Nobody got time for that, not if you want to have a semblance of a life...

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        • mrclutch
          MVP
          • Nov 2008
          • 2369

          #184
          Re: "Buying your Player"

          OP started a good conversation I think. Certainly nothing wrong with his decision or anyone else who wants to buy VC for whatever reason. I personally wish no one would ever buy VC, so it would go away but that’s not happening any time soon.

          I’m in a similar position as the OP age, time and disposeable income wise. My choice however was to not support the VC grab (half principle half cheap) so I have skipped the MyPlayer modes for the last 3 or 4 years. Now I just buy 2k later on after release when it on sale in then $20-$25 because I only play a few play now games and that’s about what it’s worth to me.

          2k does make a excellent, polished game but the necessity to heavy grind or heavy pay for certain most popular game modes does polarize a vocal minority of the potential community.
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          • m1ke_nyc
            10
            • Oct 2009
            • 3243

            #185
            Re: "Buying your Player"

            Originally posted by BOSsTOwN
            I personally think it's dumb to spend over 100 bucks on a video game.

            If the game was free I wouldn't mind paying 50 bucks to boost the player but I'm not paying any extra money on top of the original purchase. Last year I didn't even attempt to play my career or park after I read about the nonsense microtransactions in that mode

            If this year is the same I'll wait for a sale to cop this one like I did last year
            I'm not big into microtransactions but I wouldn't say it's dumb to spend over $100 on videogames. You can get hundreds of hours of entertainment out of that $100. At the same time I can blow $100 on a single night out. Which one would provide me more entertainment for my $100 ? It's all how you value your money and how you value the product.
            It’s easier to do the right thing, than to explain why you didn’t.

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            • 8KB24
              MVP
              • Jun 2012
              • 2106

              #186
              Re: "Buying your Player"

              I have extra €€€ on Steam I cannot cash out and wanna know to what overall will 80k VC take me? 75-ish?

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              • ILLSmak
                MVP
                • Sep 2008
                • 2397

                #187
                Re: "Buying your Player"

                Originally posted by ratedmoney
                I'm not big into microtransactions but I wouldn't say it's dumb to spend over $100 on videogames. You can get hundreds of hours of entertainment out of that $100. At the same time I can blow $100 on a single night out. Which one would provide me more entertainment for my $100 ? It's all how you value your money and how you value the product.

                I thought a lot about this argument the last time it was used and I knew it wasn't sound, but I could not express why. Funny cuz I wasn't gonna bust it out back then but since you brought it up, also in response to the "it costs x amount to go to the movies."



                Basically, as I see it, when you spend money to go out to eat, assuming you are doing it on the level comparable to a game (that is, not laziness or convenience), you are looking for something memorable to happen in a certain window. You can say oo that steak. Or you spend 100 dollars at a club you might meet a girl you end up dating, you go to a movie assuming it's going to be really good and something you will talk about for months/years depending on how good it is. Or a concert, whatever.



                A game is designed to be a time sink. Those things are designed for people without time to create a memorable experience in a short window of time. That makes them incomparable, to me.



                There isn't really another time sink like hobby to compare gaming to, and there is no measure for what it's worth other than a full price game being like 40-60 and a sub game being like 10-15 per month. Now if you are comparing sub based games to micros, maybe you could do that.



                In short, most people who aren't gamers aren't saying "I wonder how many hundreds of hours this is gonna net me." and hopefully gamers aren't trying to abandon all other life events other than sinking time into games.



                -Smak

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                • XxCavaliers360
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 201

                  #188
                  Re: "Buying your Player"

                  Originally posted by 8KB24
                  I have extra €€€ on Steam I cannot cash out and wanna know to what overall will 80k VC take me? 75-ish?
                  100K took me to 75, so less; probably somewhere between 70-75.

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                  • 8KB24
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 2106

                    #189
                    Re: "Buying your Player"

                    Originally posted by XxCavaliers360
                    100K took me to 75, so less; probably somewhere between 70-75.

                    Thanks. That's perfect for starting 72-73 rating will be perfect for 15-18 min role player so I can work myself into the starting lineup. Especially if I go with a center and to Lakers.

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                    • jaebonez34
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 169

                      #190
                      Re: "Buying your Player"

                      I think the problem is we got players getting upset with other players because those players choose to pay for vc to upgrade their players. Don't get upset or sound off on those players, we should be getting mad at 2k for putting us in this situation, for giving us the option to "buy our players" or stick with the grind. I personally wouldn't trip if they went back to the way it was in Nba 2k13, I think that was the last 2k that came out before they switched to having vc.

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                      • Goffs
                        New Ork Giants
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 12279

                        #191
                        Re: "Buying your Player"

                        Originally posted by HustlaCJ
                        No one FORCES you to go to the Neighborhood as a low rated player...that's what MyCareer is for..it's for people who want to build their guy up before they go to pro-am/park etc...I played the game for 12 months, and the park and proam had games for me EVERY DAY..it will be there when you get there..or better yet..."I will get to you, WHEN I GET TO YOOOUUU"...YOU choose to want to play that mode now, deal with it...
                        This....I'm not going into pro am as a 70. Playing mycareer and park games are my grind. Once I'm in the 80's I will jump in pro am games....

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                        • ph33
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 3261

                          #192
                          Re: "Buying your Player"

                          Originally posted by Goffs
                          This....I'm not going into pro am as a 70. Playing mycareer and park games are my grind. Once I'm in the 80's I will jump in pro am games....

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                          I don't like to either, but I feel like people should be able to play in some kind of competitive mode immediately. This isn't the same thing as "You just want a 99 immediately!" for the people who are going to come and misinterpret me.

                          Which is why I said this last year and I'm going to say it again. We need to have the combine from last year as a game mode. Just some generic pro-am builds that aren't maxed out but are good enough where you can play a respectable role. This would actually have been a great way for me to personally find MY best build, to be able to play this year's version of the game and see what's changed from last year. But as it is, you can't really figure out how much you like your build until you pump tons of points in and by then it's too late.

                          In some shooting games they have "Gotta be level 20 before you play rank" so they don't have noobs, but in most of those games, getting to that level doesn't really take that much time if you prove that you're competent quickly enough.


                          And from what I've noticed, some builds are more grind-friendly/easy at the beginning. You can get away with a non-scoring big man, but trying to grind as a guard from a 60 is torture.
                          Last edited by ph33; 09-10-2018, 08:23 AM.

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                          • Juve
                            Pro
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 649

                            #193
                            Re: "Buying your Player"

                            Couldnt they just make some of the courts overall based? A court for players 60-70, 70-80, etc

                            Would probably help some and get more people playing. I know I'd feel more comfortable playing with/against others who are ranked close to myself

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                            • brutusbrown1998
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2018
                              • 28

                              #194
                              "Buying your Player"

                              What the person that made this thread, and those that agree with him, don’t seem to get, or want to get, is that because they buy into this crap, because they bought into this crap when it was first introduced when the grinding wasn’t so unnecessarily excessive, because they were too lazy to actually play the game, now these developers and publishers see that this crap turns a profit, and now, years later, they have made the grind so unnecessarily excessive, to try and make people get fed up with that grind, and buy vc.

                              The fact of the matter is, the only reason that micro transactions have become as big as they are, is because stupid lazy people wanted to take the easy way out.

                              If people would just stop bowing down to these developers and publishers so much, and just say no, putting this garbage in full priced retail games is not right, then micro transactions would have never become viable.


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                              Last edited by brutusbrown1998; 09-10-2018, 12:21 PM.

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                              • mfdoom911e
                                Pro
                                • Nov 2017
                                • 564

                                #195
                                Re: "Buying your Player"

                                Originally posted by brutusbrown1998
                                What the person that made this thread, and those that agree with him, don’t seem to get, or want to get, is that because they buy into this crap, because they bought into this crap when it was first introduced when the grinding wasn’t so unnecessarily excessive, because they were too lazy to actually play the game, now these developers and publishers see that this crap turns a profit, and now, years later, they have made the grind so unnecessarily excessive, to try and make people get fed up with that grind, and buy vc.

                                The fact of the matter is, the only reason that micro transactions have become as big as they are, is because stupid lazy people wanted to take the easy way out.

                                If people would just stop bowing down to these developers and publishers so much, and just say no, putting this garbage in full priced retail games is not right, then micro transactions would have never become viable.


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                                ^^ i think that sum it up and also they cant take losing or missing shot a lot. bcoz of records.

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