If defense isn't nerfed Lockdowns will be superfluous.

[El_Poopador]

Re: If defense isn't nerfed Lockdowns will be superfluous.

It should be easy to stop a thoughtless dribble drive unless there are massive attribute advantages.


Likewise, it should be easy to make wide open shots against bad defense, but it shouldn't be easy to beat good defense.

100% agreed, but everyone is assuming that the OP is just trying to turbo through the defender. I'd like to see some video examples of what they're seeing.

[Shadow]

Re: If defense isn't nerfed Lockdowns will be superfluous.

Naw defense is great so far this year. Being in the right position and actually being able to defend finally matters.

I always make my main guy a lockdown. Now he’s gonna finally be viable on that end.

[WarMMA]

Re: If defense isn't nerfed Lockdowns will be superfluous.

100% agreed, but everyone is assuming that the OP is just trying to turbo through the defender. I'd like to see some video examples of what they're seeing.

I think what he's saying is everyone (even guys that are not great defenders) kinda feels like a great defender. But I mean it's always been that way playing the CPU...especially on HOF. The HOF CPU turns trash defenders into elite defenders.

[ruxpinke]

Re: If defense isn't nerfed Lockdowns will be superfluous.

Or you could just play away from the lockdown defender... Pass the ball to somebody else.

Pass the ball??? To someone ELSE???????

[InRodWeTrust]

Re: If defense isn't nerfed Lockdowns will be superfluous.

Pass the ball??? To someone ELSE???????[emoji38]

Crazy right?!

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[Da_Czar]

Re: If defense isn't nerfed Lockdowns will be superfluous.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. I'M Deceased! Yall got it fam. I'm retiring from forum life.

[Baebae32]

Re: If defense isn't nerfed Lockdowns will be superfluous.

ANd without context of the attributes of the players involved in these hypothetical scenarios this discussion is pointless.

Imo it is very easy to get by subpar defenders. Guys dont recognize that every mismatch doesnt end in a layup or even in points. Sometimes all you get is an angle to put stress on the defense.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: If defense isn't nerfed Lockdowns will be superfluous.

Between the defensive improvements and ball handlers not being able to zigzag for buckets, people will finally have to learn to pass, use angles, and set up their dribbling beyond 2K exploits. Finally!

The defense feels fantastic this year, but it's not impenetrable. Those who already played good defense are going to be hell this time around, especially if using defensive builds. It's gonna be a very rough year for a lot of these kids, but it's time to step the game up and play ball.

[BA2929]

Re: If defense isn't nerfed Lockdowns will be superfluous.

Wanting a nerf to something after playing essentially 2 games against the CPU on Pro difficulty in a demo.


Wow.


First for time everything on this board, I guess.

[WarMMA]

Re: If defense isn't nerfed Lockdowns will be superfluous.

Between the defensive improvements and ball handlers not being able to zigzag for buckets, people will finally have to learn to pass, use angles, and set up their dribbling beyond 2K exploits. Finally!

The defense feels fantastic this year, but it's not impenetrable. Those who already played good defense are going to be hell this time around, especially if using defensive builds. It's gonna be a very rough year for a lot of these kids, but it's time to step the game up and play ball.

Exactly. Lots of dudes were out here iso zig zag cheesing last yr and getting the easy blow by on guys playing great defense. No more of that. Learn to create angles, learn to do things off the dribble and actually play team basketball. If you're locked up, pass the ball to a guy that isn't.

[Vic_Clancy]

Re: If defense isn't nerfed Lockdowns will be superfluous.

Taking a fresh approach and giving the guy the benefit of the doubt...

I agree with the premise. Having a defensive build should offer a clear defensive advantage over non-defensive builds. Slashing builds have a distinct advantage over non-slashing builds at finishing at the basket. Posterizer and relentless finisher let slashers finish drives when all other archetypes would have had the ball thrown back in their face.

With that said, it's way too early to suggest nerfing defense. All players should affect shots if they're in good defensive position and challenge the shot. However, I personally hope that they've buffed the defensive stopper badge. That's been the issue for me. Defensive stopper was only marginally useful at silver or below.

[Goffs]

Re: If defense isn't nerfed Lockdowns will be superfluous.

This is why we don't get demos....2k been offensive heavy for years and now you want to what?! jeez...how about you wait till we get the full game first.

[The 24th Letter]

Re: If defense isn't nerfed Lockdowns will be superfluous.

Just watch the CPU guard itself. The offensive player will be stumbling over himself because Joe Blow defender is pressing him. There needs to be a medium. I saw in the prelude the offensive player lose the ball twice in the same possession and get it back both times. It's ugly IMO.

In my prelude experience the CPU was pressing me out past the 3 point line and I'm not even a shooter. With the blow by being gone they stone walled me to where i couldn't drive and then immediately doubled when i got close to the paint.

It's just a bit over done because we complained too much.

I understand the game isn't even out yet, but wait and see.

16 was similar. People weren't spending attribute points in defense because the mechanics were OP.

Trust me, I'm not trying to take anything away from LDDs I'm trying to help them.

Gotcha. We'll see what happens when the game drops bro

[scottyp180]

Re: If defense isn't nerfed Lockdowns will be superfluous.

The game hasn’t even come out yet and y’all already want the defense nerfed?

Lmao I can’t with this community man...

It's always something man. I swear you could show some of these people a video of an actual NBA game and they would still complain about something being unrealistic or not sim.

Can the game release and be out for a few weeks before we jump to conclusions about what needs to be fixed and improved?

[scottyp180]

Re: If defense isn't nerfed Lockdowns will be superfluous.

welp pass the balll lol

if somebody is being aggressive with you and your not skilled enough on the sticks to counter then move the ball around, use screens. so many players are used to just sitting in corners while their guard just dribbles the clock away and rely on blowbys and glitched animations

I agree it shouldnt happen everytime but if everytime i notice you have no idea what your doing and your just trying to dribble in my face and im denying it and your losing stamina still trying to do the same thing then yes everytime you should get ripped.

there needs to be a skill gap and so far it looks promising.

So basically what you are saying is that you treat the game the same way you would real life ball and make adjustments based on how the other team and players are playing? In other words it's smart to actually use strategy in the game? Huh...who would have thought.