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  • LorenzoDC
    MVP
    • Sep 2010
    • 1857

    #241
    Re: SimNation only, let's do this again 2K19 Edition

    Originally posted by jclazaris84
    i'm completely confused. so the otf defensive adjustments such as shrink the floor only work properly if ace is enabled?
    Not to sidetrack - just a #simnation note - when OG first put this stuff in in 2k16 I asked repeatedly for specific descriptions of 1) how the otf defensive options translate to sets of pause menu manual users adjustments, for each option 2) how the two available user control systems (otf and pause menu) interact with or override each other 3) how the answers to all of those questions change with ACE on versus ACE off.

    The only answer we ever really got was that pause menu user choices with ACE off supersede everything.

    Since we’ve also discovered that the pause menu controls don’t even all do what they say they do (PnR center settings reversed with other pnr settings), and that this error may still be in the game (no day 1 patch yet), I think it’s fair to question all this stuff a little harder 3 years in to these systems being put into the game.
    Last edited by LorenzoDC; 09-06-2018, 10:12 AM.

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    • Impetuous65
      MVP
      • Feb 2015
      • 1451

      #242
      Re: SimNation only, let's do this again 2K19 Edition

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      • jclazaris84
        Rookie
        • Feb 2018
        • 303

        #243
        Re: SimNation only, let's do this again 2K19 Edition

        Originally posted by LorenzoDC
        Not to sidetrack - just a #simnatuon note - when OG first put this stuff in in 2k16 I asked repeatedly for specific descriptions of 1) how the otf defensive options translate to sets of pause menu manual users adjustments, for each option 2) how the two available user control systems (otf and pause menu) interact with or override each other 3) how the answers to all of those questions change with ACE on versus ACE off.

        The only answer we ever really got was that pause menu user choices with ACE off supersede everything.

        Since we’ve also discovered that the pause menu controls don’t even all do what they say they do (PnR center settings reversed with other pnr settings), and that this error may still be in the game (no day 1 patch yet), I think it’s fair to question all this stuff a little harder 3 year s in to these systems being pu into the game.
        i'm with u on all of that and had the same understanding about the pause menu overriding the otf adjustments. man, i wish they would test these things more thoroughly... hopefully a dev will see us and straighten things out.

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        • Impetuous65
          MVP
          • Feb 2015
          • 1451

          #244
          Re: SimNation only, let's do this again 2K19 Edition

          Just a point of order, the menus are messed up, but man does this game play a great game of basketball. 18, has a lot of flaws and I sure this one will as well. 19, is a superior product to 18 tempted to say "orders of magnitude" honeymoon period withstanding. The Defense is so far so good, I don't play like Sam to exploit, I just play basketball and try to read the match ups and take what the defense gives. If you play that way you're going to love this game.
          Last edited by Impetuous65; 09-06-2018, 10:18 AM.

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          • ch46647
            MVP
            • Aug 2006
            • 3514

            #245
            Re: SimNation only, let's do this again 2K19 Edition

            Originally posted by JoFri
            I can only get my copy by end of month.
            And 23, i hated it when u only share the back view of the GOAT ....

            Care to show front view, full body view in-game for MJ, Shaq and Derek Fisher?

            Are Randy Brown, Jason Caffey, Scott Burrell, and Byron Russell appearing on Classic Bulls and Classic Jazz? If they arent on the teams, I really need to scout for youtubes on player creation. The new CAP system is amazing this year.

            Sincere thanks to Impetous & 23. Appreciate that u do these every year and salute!

            EDIT : Jus saw from another thread on the classic team roster. Disappointed to see John Brown and the missing Bulls players. I notice Byron Russell is in-game as well.

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            Originally posted by Impetuous65
            Just a point of order, the menus are messed up, but man does this game play a great game of basketball 18 had a lot of flaws and I sure this one will as well. 19 is a superior product to 18 tempted to say "orders of magnitude" honeymoon period withstanding. The Defense is so far so good, I don't play like Sam to exploit, I just play basketball and try to read the matchups and take what the defense gives. If you play that way you're going to love this game.
            How is the crowd atmosphere compared to 2K18? Thanks!

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            • Impetuous65
              MVP
              • Feb 2015
              • 1451

              #246
              Re: SimNation only, let's do this again 2K19 Edition

              Originally posted by ch46647
              How is the crowd atmosphere compared to 2K18? Thanks!
              They have done a great job with the arena atmosphere this year. Unfortunately, they don't let those things be part of your upload. I was playing the Blazers in Portland tight game McCollum was trying to win the ship apparently because he took over from the 2nd to the 4th quarter and the crowd was really into it especially when they went on a couple of runs.

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              • ch46647
                MVP
                • Aug 2006
                • 3514

                #247
                Re: SimNation only, let's do this again 2K19 Edition

                Originally posted by Impetuous65
                They have done a great job with the arena atmosphere this year. Unfortunately, they don't let those things be part of your upload. I was playing the Blazers in Portland tight game McCollum was trying to win the ship apparently because he took over from the 2nd to the 4th quarter and the crowd was really into it especially when they went on a couple of runs.


                Great to hear. It does sound improved from the minimal gameplay I’ve watched.


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                • bigmike0077
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 401

                  #248
                  Re: SimNation only, let's do this again 2K19 Edition

                  Originally posted by Impetuous65
                  They have done a great job with the arena atmosphere this year. Unfortunately, they don't let those things be part of your upload. I was playing the Blazers in Portland tight game McCollum was trying to win the ship apparently because he took over from the 2nd to the 4th quarter and the crowd was really into it especially when they went on a couple of runs.
                  CPU taking time outs?

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                  • ataman5
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 2620

                    #249
                    Re: SimNation only, let's do this again 2K19 Edition

                    Servers i believe will about to be open about half an hour so if you guys have chance i'd like to have look in MLO and its features, what admins can do more than last year, are we in full control about everything? How is the ticker going and functioning etc...

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                    • Impetuous65
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2015
                      • 1451

                      #250
                      Re: SimNation only, let's do this again 2K19 Edition

                      Originally posted by bigmike0077
                      CPU taking time outs?
                      Yes, I have witnessed them call TO's on runs and mismatches.

                      And for those who say the arena's are dark well not anymore. As the young folks say "its LIT!!"

                      A scary sight is to see D. Lillard getting ready to attack, he sizes up and then he's like not right now and he will pass it off to some else.

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                      • ataman5
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 2620

                        #251
                        Re: SimNation only, let's do this again 2K19 Edition

                        Originally posted by Impetuous65
                        Yes, I have witnessed them call TO's on runs and mismatches.

                        And for those who say the arena's are dark well not anymore. As the young folks say "its LIT!!"

                        A scary sight is to see D. Lillard getting ready to attack, he sizes up and then he's like not right now and he will pass it off to some else.
                        Those hesis man they havent been this scary in any 2k ever. I love it, real basketball...

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                        • Da_Czar
                          NBA 2K Gameplay Producer, Offensive AI System - SIM NATION
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 5408

                          #252
                          Re: SimNation only, let's do this again 2K19 Edition

                          Originally posted by strawberryshortcake
                          EDIT: Actually, is there (or did someone already mention) a setting to prevent those "otter porter defense" leaving the corner 3 wide open. That was still a major issue with 2k18 on default setting. I did see some of it making its way into 2k19.


                          Spoiler
                          Just put the defender guarding porter on tight or deny off-ball if he is in gap he will actually be in helps side low post for rotations. You can control this with the off-ball pressure as well as no help settings.

                          As for the menu issue, we alerted the engineers on this during the cycle and our expectation was that it was fixed. Perhaps it is in the day 1. Perhaps not. We are trying to track down if this is still an issue in the final build.

                          Also just fyi there is nothing a producer can really do about a menu. That is a different team with their own set of priorities and engineers. We can say hey this isn't working right, after that we lose a lot of control. Again our expectation was that this was a non-issue.
                          Catch me on that #SimNation #SimHangOut Friday's @ 10:00 pm est https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis...N7yxMiElOpMl_B

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                          • ch46647
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 3514

                            #253
                            Re: SimNation only, let's do this again 2K19 Edition

                            Originally posted by Da_Czar
                            Just put the defender guarding porter on tight or deny off-ball if he is in gap he will actually be in helps side low post for rotations. You can control this with the off-ball pressure as well as no help settings.

                            As for the menu issue, we alerted the engineers on this during the cycle and our expectation was that it was fixed. Perhaps it is in the day 1. Perhaps not. We are trying to track down if this is still an issue in the final build.

                            Also just fyi there is nothing a producer can really do about a menu. That is a different team with their own set of priorities and engineers. We can say hey this isn't working right, after that we lose a lot of control. Again our expectation was that this was a non-issue.
                            Czar- Thank you. Hopefully, this is fixed in the Day 1 patch.

                            Could you or Scott OG proviede an explanation how ACE, manual defensive settings, and the defensive strategies (No Three’s, Junk, etc) work with one another?

                            There has been a ton of confusion about this since ACE and defensive settings were introduced.

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                            • CelticBalla32
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 487

                              #254
                              Re: SimNation only, let's do this again 2K19 Edition

                              One more question

                              Can you manually edit and move around players from the historic draft classes? For example, could I go into the 1997 draft class and put Tim Duncan on a roster or another draft class?

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                              • jclazaris84
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2018
                                • 303

                                #255
                                Re: SimNation only, let's do this again 2K19 Edition

                                Originally posted by Da_Czar
                                Just put the defender guarding porter on tight or deny off-ball if he is in gap he will actually be in helps side low post for rotations. You can control this with the off-ball pressure as well as no help settings.

                                As for the menu issue, we alerted the engineers on this during the cycle and our expectation was that it was fixed. Perhaps it is in the day 1. Perhaps not. We are trying to track down if this is still an issue in the final build.

                                Also just fyi there is nothing a producer can really do about a menu. That is a different team with their own set of priorities and engineers. We can say hey this isn't working right, after that we lose a lot of control. Again our expectation was that this was a non-issue.
                                we appreciate u much, czar. you're sim nation's voice.

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