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  • El_Poopador
    MVP
    • Oct 2013
    • 2624

    #106
    Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

    Originally posted by Dedicated2389
    Ok while your at it, can you name a NBA player who is getting 6 or 7 steals a game like pure lockdowns. Also a player who is hitting 20 ppg on 70% doing mid range fades only. Um and also a player who 7'3 getting 20+ rebounds per game. Also add a NBA player 7'0 + PURE POST SCORER type guy making 70% of his post fades..Should I even continue?? (cause i can)

    Its a video game its alot of things that not "realistic," its PVP competitive online game.. You come up with strategies to beat the other team.. Same with Rainbow siege, call of duty, hell even madden (even tho i hate madden), the fifa series.. You can point to unrealistic things in every game that I know of.

    stop talking bout Curry on my post.
    Can you show me examples of those kinds of stats? Because I don't think 2K or anywhere really tracks them to prove or disprove them. Either way, I already said other things are unrealistic. Those things you mentioned should be fixed as well. But the bottom line is that the game is about getting points. And when the shot to get the most points is the easiest shot to make, the game is broken.

    And until you prove that three pointers are going in at a realistic, or even balanced percentage, I will continue to use the best three point shooter in the NBA to prove you wrong. You don't want me to talk about Curry because you know you're wrong, and you have no defense against it.

    Hey, there you go. You just need to come up with better defense against my Curry argument.
    Last edited by El_Poopador; 12-06-2018, 12:58 PM.

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    • Thrustie
      Pro
      • Sep 2016
      • 764

      #107
      Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

      Originally posted by Dedicated2389
      You just want things to be to easy, why wouldnt you want "great defence, communication and coordination" in a team basketball game? isnt that what the community should want.

      If sharps are reduced to "set shooters" who need to be right behind the line + open to make shots wouldnt that be the EASIEST build to gaurd??? It would be the worst build on the game next to slashers.

      How can sharpshooters be as effective as other builds if their shot making is limited to standing directly behind the 3 point line and the need to be open, on top of the fact they are extremly slow and unreliable going to the paint in ANY mode?
      No other builds without sharp shooting are going off for 40+ points regularly in this game. None are even coming close. Basketball is a TEAM game man. You’re supposed to have to actually work to create good shots, on the outside and the inside. Having a guy dribble behind a screen 35 feet from the basket to shoot off dribble jump shots isn’t a legitimate basketball play. Or it’s a really crappy one at best.

      Read what your writing dude! You’re the one who wants things to be easy! You’re the one who wants to be able to take jump shots from asinine locations with minimal effort and make them 80% of the time! I want things to be balanced. Good defence should be required to beat good offence. If you think good offence is launching from just past the logo, you’re a lost cause. And if you honestly think there’s no other way to generate good looks for perimeter shooters, it’s no wonder you’re in this thread defending this crap.

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      • Dedicated2389
        Rookie
        • Oct 2011
        • 45

        #108
        Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

        Originally posted by Thrustie
        No other builds without sharp shooting are going off for 40+ points regularly in this game. None are even coming close. Basketball is a TEAM game man. You’re supposed to have to actually work to create good shots, on the outside and the inside. Having a guy dribble behind a screen 35 feet from the basket to shoot off dribble jump shots isn’t a legitimate basketball play. Or it’s a really crappy one at best.

        Read what your writing dude! You’re the one who wants things to be easy! You’re the one who wants to be able to take jump shots from asinine locations with minimal effort and make them 80% of the time! I want things to be balanced. Good defence should be required to beat good offence. If you think good offence is launching from just past the logo, you’re a lost cause. And if you honestly think there’s no other way to generate good looks for perimeter shooters, it’s no wonder you’re in this thread defending this crap.
        Yea fam we can probably go back and forth forever. Ive been playing nothing but rec latley and i gaurd sharps with my slow sharp. We havent had any trouble at all. So i really just speak from experience, i dont know all the 2k percentages but i just know they can be stopped or atleast slowed down lol

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        • mb625
          DJ2K
          • Jan 2012
          • 5016

          #109
          Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

          Originally posted by Dedicated2389
          Ok while your at it, can you name a NBA player who is getting 6 or 7 steals a game like pure lockdowns. Also a player who is hitting 20 ppg on 70% doing mid range fades only. Um and also a player who 7'3 getting 20+ rebounds per game. Also add a NBA player 7'0 + PURE POST SCORER type guy making 70% of his post fades..Should I even continue?? (cause i can)

          Its a video game its alot of things that not "realistic," its PVP competitive online game.. You come up with strategies to beat the other team.. Same with Rainbow siege, call of duty, hell even madden (even tho i hate madden), the fifa series.. You can point to unrealistic things in every game that I know of.

          stop talking bout Curry on my post.
          I agree... there really needs to be a more realistic balance for EVERYTHING within the game.

          Oh wait... that isn't what you're saying
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          • Thrustie
            Pro
            • Sep 2016
            • 764

            #110
            Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

            Originally posted by Dedicated2389
            Yea fam we can probably go back and forth forever. Ive been playing nothing but rec latley and i gaurd sharps with my slow sharp. We havent had any trouble at all. So i really just speak from experience, i dont know all the 2k percentages but i just know they can be stopped or atleast slowed down lol
            I just finished a rec game and this is basically the rinse and repeat play for all Sharps. Defender gets sucked into the screen, Sharp dribbles to the side a bit and splash. Sure, I was too slow hedging on the screen but I had already been burnt on the roll once.

            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/89oSuIiZ19U" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

            Beautiful basketball. And when all else fails, just do this.

            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/_mnoDRTDYeM" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

            Here’s what he finished with



            51 points on 71% shooting from 3. Most of his shots were basically similar to the above ones hence why his entire team only had 9 assists. He single handedly won them the game. My stat line looks pretty sexy but it doesn’t mean bum because no other build can push numbers like that. You’re playing a different game than the rest of us.
            Last edited by Thrustie; 12-07-2018, 01:37 AM.

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            • Kleinevos
              Pro
              • Nov 2017
              • 599

              #111
              Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

              Badges just ruined this game.
              Remove the badges. All of them.

              And green = 100% make Needs to go too.
              Preferrably the shotmeter all together.

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              • Nza
                MVP
                • Jan 2004
                • 3437

                #112
                Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                Maybe sharps should just have their own servers, where they can zig zag and hit on trash shots till their heart's content.

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                • Bulletproof86
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2015
                  • 263

                  #113
                  Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                  Originally posted by Nza
                  Maybe sharps should just have their own servers, where they can zig zag and hit on trash shots till their heart's content.

                  Best Idea ever haha!!!
                  "Talent win games, but teamwork and intelligence wins championships..."

                  - Michael GOAT Jordan -

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                  • El_Poopador
                    MVP
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 2624

                    #114
                    Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                    Originally posted by Thrustie
                    Spoiler
                    That is disgusting. 51 points, all on threes, in 20 minutes. Super realistic.

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                    • Dedicated2389
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 45

                      #115
                      Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                      Originally posted by Thrustie
                      I just finished a rec game and this is basically the rinse and repeat play for all Sharps. Defender gets sucked into the screen, Sharp dribbles to the side a bit and splash. Sure, I was too slow hedging on the screen but I had already been burnt on the roll once.

                      <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/89oSuIiZ19U" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                      Beautiful basketball. And when all else fails, just do this.

                      <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/_mnoDRTDYeM" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                      Here’s what he finished with



                      51 points on 71% shooting from 3. Most of his shots were basically similar to the above ones hence why his entire team only had 9 assists. He single handedly won them the game. My stat line looks pretty sexy but it doesn’t mean bum because no other build can push numbers like that. You’re playing a different game than the rest of us.
                      LOL, i cant lie that is nasty.. I already said badges should be toned down. Hes obviously using boost on his player too. Thats another problem 2k needs to fix I admit. Hes using boost in that vid, badges should be toned down and boost should be removed period.

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                      • Korrupted
                        Pro
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 917

                        #116
                        Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                        I wanna see how most people here play defense on Sharps. I could careless about screenshots because that doesn't tell all. The main ones I notice in JRC or Park who get killed by sharps just let them shoot. I hope that's not the case here. No they shouldn't hit at 100% but you should pay for lack of defensive effort.

                        With that said Sharps and Stretches do hit a lot of BS especially when they get takeover. The contested shot slider has been way off since 2k17 and it's probably at it's worse this year. Beluba has failed to find a common ground year in and year out and it's ridiculous. Takeover just makes this game 5x's more arcade like. Stretch Bigs are damn near unstoppable when it's activated. 2k is allowing bad players to get away with horrible shot selection and chucking. Good shot selection and player ratings should effect shot success during takeover rather than just having takeover itself. The left/right tactic hasn't been patched properly since 2k16. It's the same issues every single year and 2k still hasn't found a fix for them. I'd hate to see 2k nerf a build that a lot of people have been grinding on so I'm not asking for that. They just need to fix certain game mechanics lol. We only got a limited amount of time for 2k19 to get fixed. They already tweeting polls about 2k20 now. It's crazy.

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                        • ph33
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 3261

                          #117
                          Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                          A huge problem is that the game rewards zig zagging as a method of getting open as much as organic ball movement

                          yes, some people play bad off-ball D, but the game really favors the offense. an offensive player's ability to zig zag and get an "open" shot off is far stronger than a defender's ability to stick/contest

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                          • shayellis
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 371

                            #118
                            Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                            Even if sharps make 55% of there wide open 3's. It's over... Theres no need to do anything else in this game but get those 3's
                            PSN: UVE_HAD_ENOUGH

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                            • Keith01
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2017
                              • 748

                              #119
                              Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                              Originally posted by Dedicated2389
                              Been gone for the weekend, I only really post during downtime at work but this quote is one of my main points. I created MY player to play like MY player. Im not playing with Kyle Korver or Klay thompson in park, im playing with MY created player so idc what percentage they shoot in real life.

                              I am mostly a PARK player and this is a PVP online video game. I want to be better than other online players im facing. If i take smart open shots with a PURE SHARPSHOOTER I don't expect anything less than 70% from 3 in a video game. 2k chose this acrecehtype system so they need a way to fix shot contest or defense. And no one is shooting 70% on contested jumpers unless its a pure stretch going against guards or there is a big size difference between you and the person guarding you.

                              We aren't real NBA players, we are created 2k players. I understand people want "realism" but there has to be some type of balance. I don't want a force field making me miss open shots period. If im good enough to time my release in various situations (Off the catch, off the dribble, under pressure coming off off ball screens) AND they are open shots then I should be rewarded with a bucket.

                              Lockdowns get thousands of steals and OP animations, Pure Post scores are basically unstoppable, Glass cleaners grab every board, Pure shot creators are offensive powerhouses.

                              If your looking for "realism" then PURE builds should be removed completely cause they all do one thing TOO well. And as we can see that causes problems in the community.

                              This glides over a lot of the problems with pure shooters. No one's saying open shots should miss all the time, it's mainly

                              1) Contested shots should miss -- once a pure ss gets HOF, it hardly matters.
                              2) Limitless Badge should be scrapped - completely unrealistic, even for sharps not named Curry.
                              3) It's "Your created Player" but that should still fall under Realistic basketball logic
                              4) Sharps are OP in pro-am not just arcade park
                              5) They should have more of a liability (slower, no zigzag, worse on defense, etc). Sure other Pure builds are dominant at what they do, but most have liabilities. for example, you're not gonna see GC score 20 n 30 a game unless the defense is horrible.

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                              • Vroman
                                Pro
                                • Aug 2014
                                • 959

                                #120
                                Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                                Fully maxed (+boosts) pure sharp can easily have efficient game even taking pretty bad shots all game in rec/pro-am. When I with friends play vs good record squad with pure shap as go to scorer it means he will hit "only" 50% over good defense (including full commitment to switch on crossruns and screens denying even very deep shots). I had bunch of games with pure sharp like that on me and despite him not getting single open shot it still ends up with about 5/11 3pts . Now if u make some even little mistake here and there efficiency quickly goes up to like 70% shooting.
                                On the contrary , even if u play pretty mediocre defense with some lapses here and there on slasher or post scorer they still not likely to have 70%+ fg game and they only specialise on scoring two points.
                                Last edited by Vroman; 12-08-2018, 09:58 AM.

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