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  • Moroccan_Boy
    Rookie
    • Sep 2018
    • 64

    #151
    Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

    Jordan rec is fun to.play the only bad factor is the pure shooters draining everything ..70 % 80% ridiculous

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    • ILLSmak
      MVP
      • Sep 2008
      • 2397

      #152
      Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

      Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
      Agent Zero was talking about this performance in his most recent YouTube video, and he made a lot of good points BUT STILL! I don't see how ANYONE can have this type of output without it being fixed. What's the chances that you'll have 5 people on the same team who would have the lowest Basketball possible? At a certain point, I would think they would start double/triple teaming the player. Hell...I would think they would start to throw all 4 players at him and absolutely force someone else to score.

      Personally, I want to see the video of the game.

      fast break IQ, bet. They were chucking it out to him for wide open prol corner 3s. instead of rim running he prol ran to corner, but still getting off 97 3s is a feat.



      Their team got 99 shots, the other like 44. 9 turnovers vs 28. 48 rebs v 7. I mean cmon.


      Prol all of their turnovers were from overthrown fast break passes, and when he did miss, someone got the board and threw it right back out to him.



      -Smak

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      • ph33
        MVP
        • Oct 2014
        • 3261

        #153
        Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

        I feel like the best band aid for this would be to allow every player to have the same lateral quickness of defender archetypes, as well as the contest rating. My main is a primary defender, so it would make my build less special, but the badges are still powerful anyways.

        But my reason for this is that I find that I can keep up with sharps pretty well. On occasion, I'll get got by a left right stretch big, but I pretty much take them out of the game because my player has a much better ability to catch up with all the zig zagging nonsense. This would somewhat neutralize the big issue with people being able to dart around and get a catch and shoot off at the unrealistic speed shooters can get it off at.

        I also think in regards to jumpers, that each player should have multiple releases and the quicker you let go, the lower the percentage. For example, sometimes nba players have to get a shot off faster because of a situation where they have to. It's still makeable, but not as much as one where they are so open they can take their sweet time lining it up. But in this game, a mega quick release is treated the same as a slower one. Hope that makes sense.
        Last edited by ph33; 12-29-2018, 01:04 PM.

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        • Mozatta
          Banned
          • Oct 2008
          • 205

          #154
          Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

          This ish is why I won’t ever play online. Why would I waste my time when you get cheese like this. It’s not even fun.

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          • nova91
            MVP
            • Oct 2009
            • 2074

            #155
            Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

            Originally posted by Mozatta
            This ish is why I won’t ever play online. Why would I waste my time when you get cheese like this. It’s not even fun.
            It’s not necessarily an online exclusive problem. The cpu runs a lot of some of the same cheesy actions. While your not gonna see them hoist 90+ 3s in a game with that high efficiency, you will see them put up 45+ some games with low 50s to mid 60s efficiency with most good shooters. If a defender gets caught in a screen it’s a high indicator of shot success if a shooter puts the ball up almost immediately after and with the CPU there’s no input delay so that happens quite often.
            Say "No" to railroaded MC modes.

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            • Mozatta
              Banned
              • Oct 2008
              • 205

              #156
              Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

              Originally posted by nova91
              It’s not necessarily an online exclusive problem. The cpu runs a lot of some of the same cheesy actions. While your not gonna see them hoist 90+ 3s in a game with that high efficiency, you will see them put up 45+ some games with low 50s to mid 60s efficiency with most good shooters. If a defender gets caught in a screen it’s a high indicator of shot success if a shooter puts the ball up almost immediately after and with the CPU there’s no input delay so that happens quite often.
              I’m playing with Schnaidt’s sliders and haven’t run into these issues with my offline games — playing or simming.

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              • Chemthethriller
                Pro
                • Nov 2013
                • 514

                #157
                Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                Originally posted by Dedicated2389
                Ok while your at it, can you name a NBA player who is getting 6 or 7 steals a game like pure lockdowns. Also a player who is hitting 20 ppg on 70% doing mid range fades only. Um and also a player who 7'3 getting 20+ rebounds per game. Also add a NBA player 7'0 + PURE POST SCORER type guy making 70% of his post fades..Should I even continue?? (cause i can)

                Its a video game its alot of things that not "realistic," its PVP competitive online game.. You come up with strategies to beat the other team.. Same with Rainbow siege, call of duty, hell even madden (even tho i hate madden), the fifa series.. You can point to unrealistic things in every game that I know of.

                stop talking bout Curry on my post.
                The problem with sharps is the only strat to beat them... is to have even more sharps on your team. This game is literally 2 builds at the moment and every other build is a waste. Awesome you have a pure athletic that goes 18-20 in a game on dunks... that's 36 points. Current state of the game you can easily have a sharp shoot 15-20 putting up 42. The major thing is though that Pure AF, probably is going to get a bull**** animation and not go 18-20 if they have... Literally anyone their size near the rim.

                The PVP in this state is like having a gun in RB6 Siege that has a 40 round mag, no recoil, and an ACOG vs muskets.
                PSN: ODB_BZA
                C: 2-Way Stretch Glass

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                • ksuttonjr76
                  All Star
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 8662

                  #158
                  Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                  Originally posted by ILLSmak
                  fast break IQ, bet. They were chucking it out to him for wide open prol corner 3s. instead of rim running he prol ran to corner, but still getting off 97 3s is a feat.



                  Their team got 99 shots, the other like 44. 9 turnovers vs 28. 48 rebs v 7. I mean cmon.


                  Prol all of their turnovers were from overthrown fast break passes, and when he did miss, someone got the board and threw it right back out to him.



                  -Smak
                  Now that you mentioned the other stats, I'm starting to believe it was fixed

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                  • shawnydee
                    Pro
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 839

                    #159
                    Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                    i started the game with a pure shot creator reached 95 on him made a lockdown and after that joined the dark side made a shot creating sharpshooter and havent looked back. i shoot like crazy with a 88 open 3 thats not realistic but its the way the game is if you want to win against those cheesy lineups u need to have some cheese on your team too.

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                    • Chemthethriller
                      Pro
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 514

                      #160
                      Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                      Great example of how broken sharps are.

                      Check out @1:49
                      PSN: ODB_BZA
                      C: 2-Way Stretch Glass

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                      • Keith01
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2017
                        • 748

                        #161
                        Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                        Originally posted by Chemthethriller
                        Great example of how broken sharps are.

                        Check out @1:49
                        https://youtu.be/KmA45-H0Mu0?t=109

                        I've seen worse than this too. Who hasn't at this point right. I'm making a pure sharp or stretch for my next build. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

                        - There's countless posts online that show similar bs with contested shots

                        - There's countless screenshots of sharps with 50 60 70 pt games, or even 100 pt games. Any bum can score 50 with a sharp. It's not even a feat anymore.

                        Hey 2K, how much more evidence do you need? This isn't just happening in "arcade" park, it's happening in "esports" pro-am. 2K continues to lose respect as a "sim". Remember, status quo isn't forever and it's not a right it's not a mandate. Right now 2K isn't feeling the pain, but low quality doesn't last forever, and the status quo (#1 nba game) can change. How long was NBA Live top dog? Exactly. What if NBA Live just makes a balanced game, easy grind, and that'not a cash grab. Those are 3 aspects 2K literally is unable to compete with for the last 3 yrs at least with their business model (crappy grind, VC everything, godlike shooters). Those 3 things alone are maybe my 3 biggest PITA's with 2K.

                        This game has become low quality / unrealistic due to 2K's addiction to the 3 ball and making sure all the green bean bums keep feeling like they're good at the game by making a pure sharp / zero skill build that requires no iq, but it's so OP (aka unrealistic) that it's actually successful in the game. Pretty much the type of gameplay that pisses off every sim/hardcore hooper, and appeases the casuals who nothing about the sport besides Curry making 3's. Like I said, status quo. Sim heads will not support this low quality gameplay forever... but 2K so afraid of pissing off the no skill greeeeen community, so much that they're now marketing the game as a 3pt fest.

                        The entire focus of pro-am or park is to get godlike sharps open and stop godlike sharps. Not even basketball and boring af. The only reason the gameplay is like this is exclusively due to sharps being OP. If they weren't, teams would actually have to idk -- play real basketball?
                        Last edited by Keith01; 12-31-2018, 06:05 AM.

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                        • ph33
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 3261

                          #162
                          Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                          Originally posted by Keith01
                          I've seen worse than this too. Who hasn't at this point right. I'm making a pure sharp or stretch for my next build. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

                          - There's countless posts online that show similar bs with contested shots

                          - There's countless screenshots of sharps with 50 60 70 pt games, or even 100 pt games. Any bum can score 50 with a sharp. It's not even a feat anymore.

                          Hey 2K, how much more evidence do you need? This isn't just happening in "arcade" park, it's happening in "esports" pro-am. 2K continues to lose respect as a "sim". Remember, status quo isn't forever and it's not a right it's not a mandate. Right now 2K isn't feeling the pain, but low quality doesn't last forever, and the status quo (#1 nba game) can change. How long was NBA Live top dog? Exactly. What if NBA Live just makes a balanced game, easy grind, and that'not a cash grab. Those are 3 aspects 2K literally is unable to compete with for the last 3 yrs at least with their business model (crappy grind, VC everything, godlike shooters). Those 3 things alone are maybe my 3 biggest PITA's with 2K.

                          This game has become low quality / unrealistic due to 2K's addiction to the 3 ball and making sure all the green bean bums keep feeling like they're good at the game by making a pure sharp / zero skill build that requires no iq, but it's so OP (aka unrealistic) that it's actually successful in the game. Pretty much the type of gameplay that pisses off every sim/hardcore hooper, and appeases the casuals who nothing about the sport besides Curry making 3's. Like I said, status quo. Sim heads will not support this low quality gameplay forever... but 2K so afraid of pissing off the no skill greeeeen community, so much that they're now marketing the game as a 3pt fest.

                          The entire focus of pro-am or park is to get godlike sharps open and stop godlike sharps. Not even basketball and boring af. The only reason the gameplay is like this is exclusively due to sharps being OP. If they weren't, teams would actually have to idk -- play real basketball?
                          The bolded is such facts. There are some uh, low IQ guys I tag on with from time to time, everybody here knows what is included on the "What low basketball IQ players do" list, but they get away with playing such trash basketball because all they do is dribble endlessly until a screen hits and they launch. And guess what? The game rewards them for it.

                          I've played with dudes were I'm like "Jesus Christ that's an awful shot do you even look up???.....oh wow that went in"

                          But man, I'm coming to the realization this is just how it's going to be. Some people just need EZ mode or else they move on and unfortunately, the people looking for more of a simulation is outnumbered.

                          They really just need lobbies with varying difficulty. I can understand if some people just want to have casual fun and whatever, there's room for that. But pro-AM being this way is ridiculous. And it'd be nice if Rec Center was higher difficulty but I guess that's a casual mode and it is what it is.

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                          • MDSavageBeast
                            Rookie
                            • Jun 2017
                            • 264

                            #163
                            Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                            Originally posted by ph33
                            The bolded is such facts. There are some uh, low IQ guys I tag on with from time to time, everybody here knows what is included on the "What low basketball IQ players do" list, but they get away with playing such trash basketball because all they do is dribble endlessly until a screen hits and they launch. And guess what? The game rewards them for it.

                            I've played with dudes were I'm like "Jesus Christ that's an awful shot do you even look up???.....oh wow that went in"

                            But man, I'm coming to the realization this is just how it's going to be. Some people just need EZ mode or else they move on and unfortunately, the people looking for more of a simulation is outnumbered.

                            They really just need lobbies with varying difficulty. I can understand if some people just want to have casual fun and whatever, there's room for that. But pro-AM being this way is ridiculous. And it'd be nice if Rec Center was higher difficulty but I guess that's a casual mode and it is what it is.
                            2K should just take a cue from other games and have playlists (like COD). I'd be down for a "No Sharps Allowed" playlist. I don't even care about records, I just want to play a game that isn't raining 3s all day with contested shots.

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                            • ph33
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2014
                              • 3261

                              #164
                              Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                              Originally posted by MDSavageBeast
                              2K should just take a cue from other games and have playlists (like COD). I'd be down for a "No Sharps Allowed" playlist. I don't even care about records, I just want to play a game that isn't raining 3s all day with contested shots.
                              Badges are truly the worst

                              We should have a no badge Playlist

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                              • jyoung
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 11132

                                #165
                                Re: Pure sharpshooters are OP??? Post your Sharps 3pt%, PPG and Win% plz (rec/park)

                                Originally posted by ph33
                                Badges are truly the worst

                                We should have a no badge Playlist
                                One of the reasons that 2K16 became the best version of Pro Am to date was because there were no hall of fame badges, no grand badges, and no takeover mode, with everybody on the court having gold defensive stopper, so you were essentially playing badgeless basketball since all of your badges were getting negated by gold d stopper.
                                Last edited by jyoung; 01-01-2019, 08:38 PM.

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