9 Minutes of NBA 2K20 Gameplay Footage, Most of the Starting 5 Player Ratings

[CaVsFaN2273]

Re: 9 Minutes of NBA 2K20 Gameplay Footage, Most of the Starting 5 Player Ratings

Here are some short little clips of Rui Hachimura released by a Japanese twitter page:

https://twitter.com/bbking_jp/status/1161918280547704832

[ojandpizza]

Re: 9 Minutes of NBA 2K20 Gameplay Footage, Most of the Starting 5 Player Ratings

Tough to tell in this, but it looks like players are changing pace better and quicker players noticeably looking quicker. To me both areas have been a big problem in 2k for years considering I can run a sprint down and back quicker than a professional athlete can in 2k.. Players have always been unbelievably slow.

Body types look a bit better, again hard to tell, but last years game had a lot of short stubby arms and legs, as well as players not looking skinny enough overall. In this clip most guys seemed to have that long lean build.

Still some skating unfortunately.

[Junior Moe]

Re: 9 Minutes of NBA 2K20 Gameplay Footage, Most of the Starting 5 Player Ratings

Here are some short little clips of Rui Hachimura released by a Japanese twitter page:

https://twitter.com/bbking_jp/status...18280547704832

We should definitely have a better selection of Puma shoes this year.

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[JoFri]

Re: 9 Minutes of NBA 2K20 Gameplay Footage, Most of the Starting 5 Player Ratings

I'm not sure who got shafted more on the Spurs between Poeltl (77) or White (78). Both are plus defenders that need to become more assertive and consistent on offense. That still doesn't mean Jakob should be the worst starting center (tied w/ Alex Len & Cody Zeller, SMDH) and White rated equal to unproven talent like R.J. Barrett.

Jakob main issue is that the Spurs will likely play small (w/ Carroll & Gay at PF) most nights limiting his minutes to Aldridge's back up.

White will either be the 6th man (his optimal role, IMO) or start next to DeJounte. Either way, he'll see plenty of court time and will (likely once again) play above his crappy (out - of - the - box) ratings.

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Just let it marinate for a second that Kyle Kuzma is an 84 and Derrick White is a 78.......



I cant.

I didnt see this coming from this thread. What are ya talking abt? Derrick White 78? Starting point guard at 78? Without his defense and bball iq, the Spurs wont even be in the playoffs. This makes no sense at all








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[ojandpizza]

Re: 9 Minutes of NBA 2K20 Gameplay Footage, Most of the Starting 5 Player Ratings

Just let it marinate for a second that Kyle Kuzma is an 84 and Derrick White is a 78.......

I cant.

No disrespect to White, but with the attributes in 2k being so largely made up of scoring attributes I think it's going to be tough for a guy to crack 80+ scoring 9 points a game. Though I do really like White's game, hopefully he can change that overall with how he starts this season off.

[jakalfc]

Re: 9 Minutes of NBA 2K20 Gameplay Footage, Most of the Starting 5 Player Ratings

With these videos you can't even understand why those who have the game in hand exploit it badly, but it seems to promise well, we just have to wait

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[J_Posse]

Re: 9 Minutes of NBA 2K20 Gameplay Footage, Most of the Starting 5 Player Ratings

We should definitely have a better selection of Puma shoes this year.

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Yes, they are an official endorser of the NBA (as evidenced by the ad on the dornas) now!

Hopefully we'll see more Converse (coming back into the bball market) (unlocked?), Fila (D.J. Augustin rocked a lot last season) and maybe, just maybe, Spencer Dinwiddie's custom kicks?

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[J_Posse]

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I didnt see this coming from this thread. What are ya talking abt? Derrick White 78? Starting point guard at 78? Without his defense and bball iq, the Spurs wont even be in the playoffs. This makes no sense at all








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He's really a combo guard, but 2K likely has him listed as a PG. Yes, his skillset (if he is well edited) isn't valued enough in 2K's algorithm.

No disrespect to White, but with the attributes in 2k being so largely made up of scoring attributes I think it's going to be tough for a guy to crack 80+ scoring 9 points a game. Though I do really like White's game, hopefully he can change that overall with how he starts this season off.

Agreed, his offense isn't a strong point yet and he needs to become more aggressive or decisive (passed up a lot of shots early last season & against Denver).

He is a proven NBA talent, though, and shouldn't be below a bunch of unproven, untested rookies (some who will falter their rookie season) w/ hyped up ratings (happens every season).

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[Mikelopedia]

Re: 9 Minutes of NBA 2K20 Gameplay Footage, Most of the Starting 5 Player Ratings

No disrespect to White, but with the attributes in 2k being so largely made up of scoring attributes I think it's going to be tough for a guy to crack 80+ scoring 9 points a game. Though I do really like White's game, hopefully he can change that overall with how he starts this season off.

He's really a combo guard, but 2K likely has him listed as a PG. Yes, his skillset (if his well edited) isn't valued enough in 2K's algorithm.Agreed, his offense isn't a strong point yet and he needs to become more aggressive or decisive (passed a lot of shots last season).

He is a proven NBA talent, though, and shouldn't be below a bunch of unproven, untested rookies (some who will falter their rookie season) w/ hyped up ratings (happens every season).

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You're not wrong Ojandpizza, but if there's one guy who can, and does, (like JPosse said, if edited correctly) it's Derrick White. There's only one rating that affects how OFTEN a player shoots (although it carries a heavy weight in 2ks overall formula) and it's Shot IQ. The rest is dictated by tendencies. Derrick White may not shoot alot, but when he does, he doesn't have bad percentages other than being a slightly below average 3 point shooter. He is also very athletic, rebounds very well for his position, and is an excellent defender who also gets blocks and steals. He pretty much does everything at least pretty well for a combo guard.

Few people hate 2k's overall formula more than I do, but even without changing him to a SG or inflating intangibles, offensive and defensive awareness, its easy to have him rated an 81 or 82.

[ojandpizza]

Re: 9 Minutes of NBA 2K20 Gameplay Footage, Most of the Starting 5 Player Ratings

You're not wrong Ojandpizza, but if there's one guy who can, and does, (like JPosse said, if edited correctly) it's Derrick White. There's only one rating that affects how OFTEN a player shoots (although it carries a heavy weight in 2ks overall formula) and it's Shot IQ. The rest is dictated by tendencies. Derrick White may not shoot alot, but when he does, he doesn't have bad percentages other than being a slightly below average 3 point shooter. He is also very athletic, rebounds very well for his position, and is an excellent defender who also gets blocks and steals. He pretty much does everything at least pretty well for a combo guard.

Few people hate 2k's overall formula more than I do, but even without changing him to a SG or inflating intangibles, offensive and defensive awareness, its easy to have him rated an 81 or 82.

I agree with you, but I think a lot of the issue is in terms of 2K it's difficult for them to correlate percentages and what not directly to an attribute. In the scope of what you said, theoretically you give him ratings and adjust his sliders, but part of the issue is using percentages alone a user should theoretically be able to score with him at the same rate they do James Harden.. 2K's rating system doesn't have any sort of adjustments for players not being to scale up under usage like that. I think it's safe to assume that White simply shooting more wouldn't equate to James Harden-like outputs, but in the world of 2k if they made very single stat a 1:1 carry over to ratings he most likely could in game..

I also think 2K likely doesn't catch enough Spurs action to really see his value. No matter the numbers there is always some sort of cross-connection with actually seeing a guy play, and White's numbers on both sides of the ball sell his actual abilities a little short.. 2K claims to take into account watching and using some degree of "eye test", but I wonder how much of that is watching the 4th or 5th best player on the Spurs..

I really wish overalls were scrapped altogether, because as currently constructed there is not an accurate way to truly represent value. As of right now there are 7 attributes for shooting alone, if you include layups, dunks, post shots, that number jumps to 14, include free throws 15. 15 different ways to represent scoring. If you include things like post control, draw foul, ball control, passing vision IQ and accuracy, shot IQ, and hands that number jumps to 23 attributes that solely reflect what a player does when he has the ball in his hand..

There are ZERO attributes that show how valuable a player is without the ball. No off-ball ratings, cutting ratings, screen ratings, post positioning ratings, curling ratings, etc.. And there is only ONE rating to reflect how a player defends someone with the ball, on ball defensive IQ. I guess two depending on how much reaction time plays a roll in on ball defense... Sure steals, blocks, and contest to a degree, but often times steals are in passing lanes, from behind, or due to offensive player errors, blocks at the rim, from behind, and contesting shots is largely lunging at shooters, defending kick-outs, etc.. I guess low post defense could be included, but its the same rating as on ball just dependent on offensive positioning. There should be attributes for defending pick and rolls, cutters, isos, hand offs, switching ability, etc.. And that's just on ball, they need to do the same for off-ball defense as well.

Until 2K creates a greater variety for what plays a roll in determining value, their overall ratings will be this way. They took a GIANT step forward in weighting out play types to reflect strong rebounders, or defensive specialists for example, but still their formulas are too heavily skewed towards players who can provide decent ball-in-hand production at moderate to high usage..

[MarkWilliam]

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Agreed on all points. Although I think the better way of saying what youre saying about on ball D is that defense in 2k has always been too reliant on on-ball defense. When people see OP they think how could 18 have been OP, 19 was OP. But what I know youre saying here is that instead of having to direct the ball handler to where the help D is or to a spot the ball handler doesnt want to go (i.e. his off hand or to the sideline) as professional defense is played, 2k relies on being able to just brick wall the ball handler with one guy.
In the days post hand checking, this just isnt the reality of basketball.
It SEEMS like 2k20 is trending in that positive direction, the problem is, if help D is not more intelligent, the offense will be able to go where ever they want ultimately.

Precisely.

2K is definitely thinking about the right things. But it is imperative that the team defense is strong with it's rotations or there will be imbalance.

[23]

Re: 9 minutes of NBA 2K20 leaked gameplay

Exactly.

When a certain segment of the community starts their demands then patches start rolling out like clockwork. The game never plays the same out the box. Which is why I don't put much stock in pre-launch stuff, let alone a few months from now.

Well there good thing is out of the box was their work and vision.


I'm that sense they do a great job mainly. Patches aren't always the greatest idea

But the year they didn't release crazy patches people called them money hungry and said they didn't care

This gaming community is full of too many frauds and people who not only know nothing about making games but they don't play other games either


That alone makes their critical thinking in complaints beyond unstable

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[Kid OS]

Re: 9 Minutes of NBA 2K20 Gameplay Footage, Most of the Starting 5 Player Ratings

I just hope passing trajectories are situational. Tall players get wayyyy too many steals on 2K19. In-bounders will literally pass the ball right to the defender. PG's will throw a chess pass instead of a pass around the defender. It's dumb.

And same goes for layup animations. NBA players don't take 2 seconds to complete a layup. It's less than a second. 2K19 feels like elementary kids in the paint. Players take all day to do a simple layup, then get it swatted.

[ksuttonjr76]

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I just hope passing trajectories are situational. Tall players get wayyyy too many steals on 2K19. In-bounders will literally pass the ball right to the defender. PG's will throw a chess pass instead of a pass around the defender. It's dumb.

And same goes for layup animations. NBA players don't take 2 seconds to complete a layup. It's less than a second. 2K19 feels like elementary kids in the paint. Players take all day to do a simple layup, then get it swatted.

Lol, I just lost a game today due to a slow layup animation that bottle have tied the game. I especially hate it when it's a big man that catches the ball for easy layup attempt.

[ForeverVersatile]

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Lol, I just lost a game today due to a slow layup animation that bottle have tied the game. I especially hate it when it's a big man that catches the ball for easy layup attempt.

Smh this was a while ago, but this was the slowest layup animation I had ever seen. I'm like how the hell did I miss that with Kyrie.

https://youtu.be/gg7B7ABgelo

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