The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

[Housh123]

Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

I don’t disagree but why stoop yourself to the same sad level by quitting?

I’ve had that happen to me. I just do my job on D and on offense sit on top of the key.

Good for defense badges, xp and rep. You’ll be getting teammate grade for floor spacing and stopping fastbreaks.

Sure it wont be fun. But atleast I’m still getting something out of the game while being the bigger man.

This isnt true

When ppl freeze you out you get no XP and if you do happen to be the only guy on a team that is playing smart the other team will just double team you and youll be forced to pass to bums who will likely not get many points off your passes.


You must be a big because only a big can really still get his 20 boards and 10 points on a trash team. Iv had games at PG where I was the only one with a brain and i started seeing doubles before halfcourt, so i pass and the ball NEVER finds its way back to me so i end up with 3 shots all game when a bum had 20 because I was forced to pass.

[Housh123]

Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

I don't really look at it as stooping to their level. If people want to play REC, they have to accept the fact that they're not gonna know all of their teammates. With that, nobody has the right to decide that someone isn't permitted the opportunity to engage in the game. Now if some dude is playing for himself, go ahead and freeze him out. But, unless you have a good reason, everyone deserves a chance. Believe me, I'm no ball hog and understand if the flow doesn't present me chances, but if I'm gonna be frozen out, in an imminent loss, I have zero guilt of leaving to find another game. In fact, I may be doing them a favour by giving them a bot that they can pass to and call for the ball back whenever they want.

My opinion....

Heck naw bro

I gotta accept that im with a random bunch of people who may not be great.



But I dont think its too much to expect a guy to pass to a wide open guy instead of go 1-12. THATS the type of player im talking about needs to be segregated from others. Iv had bad games myself where I go 3-12 or something stupid but I didnt shoot bad shoots and in game slike that ill usually have a boatload of assists. Some guys load in 2k literally just to shoot. Its not wrong to quit out on teams that do that and I wish 2k didnt give ppl timeouts fordoing it. I didnt put money and hours into my dude to watch some bum go 1-12 with no assists. What kinda BS is that

[Iasounis]

Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

Heck naw bro

I gotta accept that im with a random bunch of people who may not be great.



But I dont think its too much to expect a guy to pass to a wide open guy instead of go 1-12. THATS the type of player im talking about needs to be segregated from others. Iv had bad games myself where I go 3-12 or something stupid but I didnt shoot bad shoots and in game slike that ill usually have a boatload of assists. Some guys load in 2k literally just to shoot. Its not wrong to quit out on teams that do that and I wish 2k didnt give ppl timeouts fordoing it. I didnt put money and hours into my dude to watch some bum go 1-12 with no assists. What kinda BS is that

Well ya, every game is different.

Can't describe every scenario here, but if I'm gonna take a loss with a bunch of dudes who have decided that the game will only be in their hands.... Ya, Imma head out.

[Thrustie]

Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

I make a point to never quit. I’ll finish out 3 quarters with A.I. and try to rack up some stats. Honestly, usually the guys who quit aren’t guys I’d want to finish the game anyways. Most times I’m praying my team quits in a blowout because I’m better off with some A.I.’s. I’m usually more irate when the opposing team quits when I’m on the good team because they screw my averages.

I’ll echo what someone mentioned earlier - it’s almost impossible to grade out this year. I’ve seen guys deliberately get 3 in the key every offensive possession and not play defense at all and somehow last for 3 quarters. If they fixed this so guys who aren’t even playing a semblance of basketball can get booted in a reasonable timeframe (one quarter), I think that would help things immensely.

[tru11]

Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

I aint tryna hate or throw shade but this reads as someone with alot of time to play when they do play. On weekdays I probably get 1-3 hours in a session. I dont have time to sit and run 5 games where my team is down 20 points in the 1st because of trash teammates. I dont know how much you value your time but dont hate on others for valuing their time on the game

This selfish attitude is pretty much the root of the problems that plaque multiplayer games.

Everyone seems to think that only their time is precious and thus will only do what is right for them regardles of how it effects everyone else.

The guys you accuse of being thrash teammates also believe that their time is precious and its why they do what they do.

Quite frankly quitters are just as bad/thrash teammates as those selfish teammates that stick around.

Its not hating , its calling things as they are.

For the record i have less time then you to play this game and i actually prefer people to quit on me as the AI usually makes for a better teammate.....

[howardphillips214]

Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

I just can't believe that a match making tier is so hard to do.

Whether it's teammate grade, overall, or just by win percentage. I don't want to play with a 60 OVR first game rookie 1. I don't want to play with a PG who averages less than 2 assists. I don't want to play with 4 other inside characters.

It's just a bad system, has been for a long time and could be fixed because other games do it.

A simple fix, if they don't want to improve their algorithm, is to give us lobbies. Easily accessed from the main menu, and can back out at any time. You could have pick up lobbies, you could have private lobbies, you could create a lobby titled "Need wing shooters" "Need defensive big man" and if i create a lobby i should choose when the game starts and who i want in my lobby. It really isn't that difficult to comprehend.

[Hustle Westbrook]

Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

I don’t know about Pro-Am and other modes with multiple human players but from a PNO and MTU perspective If I’m beating someone by 20-30+ points I would much appreciate someone just quitting and saving me the time so I can play in another match.

I remember I was getting washed by 30 and quit and the game locked me out for about 5 minutes and I thought that was the lamest **** ever. We’re all grown ups here with things and this is a video game not real life. If someone quits just give them the L and let’s keep it moving.

Only thing I wish is that they would let me see my stats after the person rage quits LOL.

[Housh123]

Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

This selfish attitude is pretty much the root of the problems that plaque multiplayer games.

Everyone seems to think that only their time is precious and thus will only do what is right for them regardles of how it effects everyone else.

The guys you accuse of being thrash teammates also believe that their time is precious and its why they do what they do.

Quite frankly quitters are just as bad/thrash teammates as those selfish teammates that stick around.

Its not hating , its calling things as they are.

For the record i have less time then you to play this game and i actually prefer people to quit on me as the AI usually makes for a better teammate.....

Im selfish because I value my time? Ummm ok. How is it even possible to say a guy that quits because of poor teammates is just as bad as a guy who came in and purposely didnt pass and ruined the game for others? That makes no logical sense. So im bad for not wanting to waste my time watching a bum PG shoot every time he touches the ball? Dude what? This is 2k bruh this aint a fighting game where its 1 v 1. I could see your point of riding out bad games if this were any other game but this is 2k. You can have a game ruined in the first damn quarter because of trash teammates. Its not my obligation to play with bums and get no XP. The fact that you think that is weird IMO.




Your last sentence is very odd as well. So you play a multiplayer game but like it when ppl quit and you get to go 1 on 5? Thats weird bro. My anger associated with poor matchmaking is that I WANT to play competitive games with others and bonehead players ruin it. In your case if your so happy playing with AI anyway skip the middle man and just run NBA games?


At the end of the day in regards to quitting, people paid they 60$ just the same as everybody else so if you wanna quit for any reason go head. I personally only quit when im playing with a guy whose obviously selling me. I nor anyone in the 2k community is bound by any law or ethics code to ride games like that and watch a guy go 1 for 20. If they fixed matchmaking a revamped the teammmate grade system we wouldnt be having this convo


Also I didnt buy my game to make other people happy. I bought it cause I love basketball and think playing it is fun. Fun to me is being on a good team where people are putting in work. Soon as its not fun to do something I love im gonna leave. Its not my job to stay in a bad game to make random dudes happy.

[Iasounis]

Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

Im selfish because I value my time? Ummm ok. How is it even possible to say a guy that quits because of poor teammates is just as bad as a guy who came in and purposely didnt pass and ruined the game for others? That makes no logical sense. So im bad for not wanting to waste my time watching a bum PG shoot every time he touches the ball? Dude what? This is 2k bruh this aint a fighting game where its 1 v 1. I could see your point of riding out bad games if this were any other game but this is 2k. You can have a game ruined in the first damn quarter because of trash teammates. Its not my obligation to play with bums and get no XP. The fact that you think that is weird IMO.




Your last sentence is very odd as well. So you play a multiplayer game but like it when ppl quit and you get to go 1 on 5? Thats weird bro. My anger associated with poor matchmaking is that I WANT to play competitive games with others and bonehead players ruin it. In your case if your so happy playing with AI anyway skip the middle man and just run NBA games?


At the end of the day in regards to quitting, people paid they 60$ just the same as everybody else so if you wanna quit for any reason go head. I personally only quit when im playing with a guy whose obviously selling me. I nor anyone in the 2k community is bound by any law or ethics code to ride games like that and watch a guy go 1 for 20. If they fixed matchmaking a revamped the teammmate grade system we wouldnt be having this convo


Also I didnt buy my game to make other people happy. I bought it cause I love basketball and think playing it is fun. Fun to me is being on a good team where people are putting in work. Soon as its not fun to do something I love im gonna leave. Its not my job to stay in a bad game to make random dudes happy.

Game. Set. Match.

[Kleinevos]

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Im selfish because I value my time?




Its not my obligation to play with bums and get no XP..

Also I didnt buy my game to make other people happy.

Denying being selfish and dropping two selfish lines in the same post.

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[tru11]

Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

Im selfish because I value my time? Ummm ok. How is it even possible to say a guy that quits because of poor teammates is just as bad as a guy who came in and purposely didnt pass and ruined the game for others? That makes no logical sense. So im bad for not wanting to waste my time watching a bum PG shoot every time he touches the ball? Dude what? This is 2k bruh this aint a fighting game where its 1 v 1. I could see your point of riding out bad games if this were any other game but this is 2k. You can have a game ruined in the first damn quarter because of trash teammates. Its not my obligation to play with bums and get no XP. The fact that you think that is weird IMO.




Your last sentence is very odd as well. So you play a multiplayer game but like it when ppl quit and you get to go 1 on 5? Thats weird bro. My anger associated with poor matchmaking is that I WANT to play competitive games with others and bonehead players ruin it. In your case if your so happy playing with AI anyway skip the middle man and just run NBA games?


At the end of the day in regards to quitting, people paid they 60$ just the same as everybody else so if you wanna quit for any reason go head. I personally only quit when im playing with a guy whose obviously selling me. I nor anyone in the 2k community is bound by any law or ethics code to ride games like that and watch a guy go 1 for 20. If they fixed matchmaking a revamped the teammmate grade system we wouldnt be having this convo


Also I didnt buy my game to make other people happy. I bought it cause I love basketball and think playing it is fun. Fun to me is being on a good team where people are putting in work. Soon as its not fun to do something I love im gonna leave. Its not my job to stay in a bad game to make random dudes happy.

Ah yes the top 3 arguments selfish people having been using for over 2 decades now:

1 I paid for this game
2 I value my time
3 I play to have fun

Odds are that if you ask the guy that does not pass the ball why , he will give you at least 1 of these as a reason...

Either way though people should do whatever they want.

It wont change the fact that quitting on your team makes you a bad teammate.

Good teammates help their team however they can.
You cant help your team if you quit.

[Iasounis]

Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

Good teammates help their team however they can.
You cant help your team if you quit.

Some of y'all also sound like the bad teammates that expect me to run around to get open, set screens to get YOU open, and play defense, while you go 1-10.

It's a perspective as to what's worse.

[howardphillips214]

Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

Some of y'all also sound like the bad teammates that expect me to run around to get open, set screens to get YOU open, and play defense, while you go 1-10.

It's a perspective as to what's worse.

I usually play big with randoms. I'm a 6'9 paint beast PF. I've gotten like 13 of my 19 defensive badge points but only 5 of my 17 finishing badge points. I could play more career, but I've already grinded up 2 characters to 95+. One has Gym Rat the other is 2 games away from winning the Finals and getting it as well. My PF is a 91 OVR and ice only played 8 career games. That means ice already played quite a few rec games with him.

One of the more frustrating things about running big is that i can get matched up on these super giants and destroy them on defense. Sometimes they're good and i can get eaten, but i usually give as good as i get. If im wide open under the basket or cutting to the basket, I'm typically holding the stick for an alley oop. If they DO pass most of the time it's late and I'll get put in a terrible animation. Most of the time I'll get blocked from behind, or if i get them jumping, they'll block me on the way down. Once they see you do one bad thing they typically won't pass it to you again. Even if im giving up points, i make my match up work for it. The least you can do is reward the big for getting a block, and kicking it out forthe fast break.

When the guards get stopped in transition, I'm usually STREAKING with my man a good 3-4 steps behind me. Perfect chance for a wide open alley. But instead, they take a contested jumper, i run in for the offensive rebound, my man has recovered so i kick it for another contested jumper.

When we're in a half court set, I'm not sitting underneath the basket like most bigs on this game. I'm usually setting ball screens, off balls, and down screens. If my man just sits in the paint they will drive in and get tossed, rather than cutting around me for a wide open mid or 3. I try not to play with slashing guards as they refuse to shoot, but when it's a character with a 3 under their user name, i expect them to curl, wrap, or something other than cut in.

I really wish that randoms were being educated on good bball tactics, rather than thinking they're going to poster every time.

If im the 4, I'm not much of a floor spacer so I'm dependant on getting hit in good positions. If im the 5, they expect me t just rebound and kick. When I'm a guard with my friends, i try to reward my bigs because i know how frustrating it can get to do all the dirty work and not have that much fun.

[Kleinevos]

Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

Some of y'all also sound like the bad teammates that expect me to run around to get open, set screens to get YOU open, and play defense, while you go 1-10.



It's a perspective as to what's worse.

If he goes 1/10 or 10/10 doesn’t change the fact that you actually have to play defence, get yourself open or help getting your teammates open.

[haloofduty]

Re: The cynical irony of punishing people for quitting out of games

The guy tru11 makes absolutely no sense lol. How can anyone agree with that logic? Common sense is not prevailing in this thread. Are you really arguing that if someone is getting frozen out they shouldn't quit? What lol

Sounds like your a member of one of the squads that beat up on randoms and dont want them to quit so you can continuously beat up on them all game.