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  • jk31
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    • Sep 2014
    • 2659

    #61
    Re: D'Aaron Fox - 2k is a trash game thats why wont stream it

    Originally posted by Rashidi
    This just reminded me. Wasn't there a sports game that was solely Franchise mode w/o the actual game (i.e. everything was simmed)? I think it was baseball.

    Or maybe it was talked about but got canceled. This is going back say 15 years.
    There are Tons of games like this? Manager games exist for several sports. draft Day sports Basketball is out There for Basketball. Football Manager for football/soccer.

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    • Hornetz
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      • May 2012
      • 275

      #62
      Re: D'Aaron Fox - 2k is a trash game thats why wont stream it

      Simply put, the ephemeral nature of an annual release + major annual changes to the playstyle = A Disruption in continuity, which results from a balanced video game. Which leads to a proportionally dissatisfied consumer base ultimately condemning an otherwise decent game.
      (layman’s terms: there’s no balance because of new or different game mechanics every year.)

      Other games do not face this challenge (i.e my earlier reference to Rockstar Games) because they do not have this cycle. 2K has refused to relent this business model for understandably capitalist motives — but what does that say for Rockstar’s game model which puts forth one game and continues to develop that game for YEARS, all the while continuing to make it ever more popular with relevant updates?
      Last edited by Hornetz; 03-27-2020, 08:46 PM.
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      • SteveQ
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        • Jul 2015
        • 411

        #63
        Re: D'Aaron Fox - 2k is a trash game thats why wont stream it

        Starting around 2K15, I started thinking that 2K should put out a game every 2 years. Giving them time to truly improve (granted they do make improvements here and there every year). I know they never will though.

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        • Real2KInsider
          MVP
          • Dec 2003
          • 4654

          #64
          Re: D'Aaron Fox - 2k is a trash game thats why wont stream it

          Originally posted by Hornetz
          2K has refused to relent this business model for understandably capitalist motives
          It isn't 2K's decision. It's the NBA (and every other sports league). It's in the contract.

          Want to make an NBA game? Here are the rules.

          but what does that say for Rockstar’s game model which puts forth one game and continues to develop that game for YEARS, all the while continuing to make it ever more popular with relevant updates?
          GTA is Rockstar's own intellectual property. They don't have to license it from another entity. They make it on their own calendar. Critical difference.

          Originally posted by SteveQ
          Starting around 2K15, I started thinking that 2K should put out a game every 2 years. Giving them time to truly improve (granted they do make improvements here and there every year). I know they never will though.
          There isn't a single developer on the team who prefers a compressed, annual release. It's not their decision. Talk to Adam Silver.
          Last edited by Real2KInsider; 04-01-2020, 06:12 AM.
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          • Optimus James
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            • Feb 2013
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            #65
            Re: D'Aaron Fox - 2k is a trash game thats why wont stream it

            Originally posted by Rashidi
            It isn't 2K's decision. It's the NBA (and every other sports league). It's in the contract.

            Want to make an NBA game? Here are the rules.



            GTA is Rockstar's own intellectual property. They don't have to license it from another entity. They make it on their own calendar. Critical difference.



            There isn't a single developer on the team who prefers a compressed, annual release. It's not their decision. Talk to Adam Silver.
            So what happened with the EA sports licensing agreement ?
            how is it possible that they can make an NBA game every few years ?

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            • ksuttonjr76
              All Star
              • Nov 2004
              • 8662

              #66
              Re: D'Aaron Fox - 2k is a trash game thats why wont stream it

              Originally posted by Optimus James
              So what happened with the EA sports licensing agreement ?
              how is it possible that they can make an NBA game every few years ?
              You make it sound like they're consciously making a decision to release a game every 2-3 years for "quality purposes". NBA Live sucks...they're probably electing to eat the fine(s) versus losing money due to production/development costs and marketing. Long story short...it's probably cheaper for them to pay the fine(s) and licensing fee versus releasing a game every year. Let's be real. They only release a game to test the waters of their product against NBA 2K. I'm surprised they haven't ended the NBA Live series already and not renew their agreement.

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              • SteveQ
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                • Jul 2015
                • 411

                #67
                Re: D'Aaron Fox - 2k is a trash game thats why wont stream it

                Should’ve added that I’m aware it isn’t 2K’s decision. Just something I’d like. Obviously developers would rather a longer development time.

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                • Optimus James
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                  • Feb 2013
                  • 393

                  #68
                  Re: D'Aaron Fox - 2k is a trash game thats why wont stream it

                  No use going back and forth with apologists/company men.

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                  • ksuttonjr76
                    All Star
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 8662

                    #69
                    Re: D'Aaron Fox - 2k is a trash game thats why wont stream it

                    Originally posted by Optimus James
                    No use going back and forth with apologists/company men.
                    What's there to apologize about? It's pretty much black and white why the game is released every year. Then there's the common sense answer. 2KSports is getting paid releasing the game every year. Why would they forgo a year's worth of profit for a 2-year cycle????

                    Also, NBA Live is not this biblical savior of basketball or future competition to NBA 2K. They had their many chances and blew it!
                    Last edited by ksuttonjr76; 04-01-2020, 11:11 PM.

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                    • tru11
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                      • Aug 2010
                      • 1816

                      #70
                      Re: D'Aaron Fox - 2k is a trash game thats why wont stream it

                      Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                      What's there to apologize about? It's pretty much black and white why the game is released every year. Then there's the common sense answer. 2KSports is getting paid releasing the game every year. Why would they forgo a year's worth of profit for a 2-year cycle????

                      Also, NBA Live is not this biblical savior of basketball or future competition to NBA 2K. They had their many chances and blew it!

                      They are just little kids that have no idea how the real world works lol.

                      I mean they release the game every year and make a lot of money with it.

                      There is no incentive business wise to diver from this successful business model lol

                      Doubt take 2 is going to accept it.
                      Not to mention they already have other franchise that are not on an annual release.

                      Then there is even all the contractual and legal obligations that are involved.




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                      • Real2KInsider
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                        • Dec 2003
                        • 4654

                        #71
                        Re: D'Aaron Fox - 2k is a trash game thats why wont stream it

                        Originally posted by Optimus James
                        No use going back and forth with apologists/company men.
                        I'll take emotionless, irrefutable logic over whatever you're pretending to do here.
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                        • Hounddog146
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                          • Sep 2017
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                          #72
                          Re: D'Aaron Fox - 2k is a trash game thats why wont stream it

                          2k is a joke, I will not be picking up the next 2k.


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                          • duce
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                            • Dec 2017
                            • 534

                            #73
                            Re: D'Aaron Fox - 2k is a trash game thats why wont stream it

                            Why is 2K unable to allow stream audio (no commentary in game streams on PS4)? And are there workarounds?
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                            • Junior Moe
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                              • Jul 2009
                              • 3869

                              #74
                              Re: D'Aaron Fox - 2k is a trash game thats why wont stream it

                              I have never understood why the people who feel like each year is just a roster update (or money grab) dont just skip a year or two. That way the game does feel like it's two years (or more) advanced when they play it because it really would be. I personally look forward to the yearly sport game releases.
                              Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                              What's there to apologize about? It's pretty much black and white why the game is released every year. Then there's the common sense answer. 2KSports is getting paid releasing the game every year. Why would they forgo a year's worth of profit for a 2-year cycle????

                              Also, NBA Live is not this biblical savior of basketball or future competition to NBA 2K. They had their many chances and blew it!
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                              • duce
                                a goat
                                • Dec 2017
                                • 534

                                #75
                                Re: D'Aaron Fox - 2k is a trash game thats why wont stream it

                                Originally posted by Junior Moe
                                I have never understood why the people who feel like each year is just a roster update (or money grab) dont just skip a year or two. That way the game does feel like it's two years (or more) advanced when they play it because it really would be. I personally look forward to the yearly sport game releases.

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                                This makes sense for single-player types. Less so for social players who’d have to convince their network to keep playing the old game.
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