2K needs to stop asking casual Park players like Agent00 about gameplay

[BluFu]

Re: 2K needs to stop asking casual Park players like Agent00 about gameplay

Can you unpack that? I'm still a little confused as to what you mean. Certain driving animations do feel clunky, but I've never felt that to be all that realistic. Defensive players still kind of feel "skate-y" to me as well.

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2K slowed the movement down to imitate a more realistic feeling. It didn't really help immersion though since the engine is so flawed in the first place. That's why players still felt "skate-y"

[Kushmir]

Re: 2K needs to stop asking casual Park players like Agent00 about gameplay

For the sake of argument let's say that 500K of 2Ks player base are hardcore MyLeague players. We pay 10$ for the playable Gleague. That 5 million bucks. I know everything has a cost on the dev side as well but let's say that more than covers the time investment. I'd imagine we'd get more of a voice in shaping things.

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I was really prepared to disagree with this but in the end what we're talking about is specific content...and specific content is a good thing. We're not paying because we don't see anything of value yet.

I wouldn't pay for any of the PNO online features that are obvious but say .99 cents to play with the 2001 Sixers out of the box instead of unlocking them? SURE, let's do it. 99 cents for one Online Season? (idea I had years ago) YUP. So maybe its just a matter of finding the stuff that has value to the crowd not interested in MyPlayer. These discussions have to take place anyway, because the PS5 titles are probably the last console sports games that will be able to get away with getting full price for a yearly release.

[mb625]

Re: 2K needs to stop asking casual Park players like Agent00 about gameplay

2K slowed the movement down to imitate a more realistic feeling. It didn't really help immersion though since the engine is so flawed in the first place. That's why players still felt "skate-y"

I play a lot of MyTeam, so with everyone and their brother having 90 plus speed I suppose I don't get the benefit of that lol.

I will say that the slower speeds felt pretty good at the start of the game but certain "slow" players felt incredibly fast (i.e. Gheorge Muresan).

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[Optimus James]

Re: 2K needs to stop asking casual Park players like Agent00 about gameplay

Dude has no idea how basketball is played.
The park community pretty much killed this game off

[EccentricMeat]

Re: 2K needs to stop asking casual Park players like Agent00 about gameplay

I don’t understand why 2K doesn’t just put in an “arcade” setting so that the online Park crowd can have their cheesy glitch-fest and the offline crowd can have a “sim” setting to get realistic gameplay. This way they can upload tuners/patches that are different for both modes so that instead of having to try and find a balance between sim and arcade, they can provide both and tweak them independent of one another.

Hell, call the arcade mode “competitive” so they feel like they’re pros while spamming the same 3 dribble moves to get to the basket.

[Mortiis]

Re: 2K needs to stop asking casual Park players like Agent00 about gameplay

exactly...just seperate gameplay for stupid park/rec and myleague real sim mode for real players

[Kushmir]

Re: 2K needs to stop asking casual Park players like Agent00 about gameplay

Hell, call the arcade mode “competitive” so they feel like they’re pros while spamming the same 3 dribble moves to get to the basket.

I DIED reading this. Yup..tell them anything they want so they feel good, call it the "elite baller" mode for all I care [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23]

[Mortiis]

Re: 2K needs to stop asking casual Park players like Agent00 about gameplay

as far as i have seen so far
park/rec play people who never ever even played basketball and don't understand basketball a bit!

[ksuttonjr76]

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exactly...just seperate gameplay for stupid park/rec and myleague real sim mode for real players

Whoa! I'm offended, lol. I became mainly a REC player this year, and I feel REC could benefit from more sim elements. Minus some cheese tactics (which can be found in any mode really), REC is no where near as bad as Park. What they need to do is stop asking MYPARK players what the game needs.

[EarvGotti]

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Whoa! I'm offended, lol. I became mainly a REC player this year, and I feel REC could benefit from more sim elements. Minus some cheese tactics (which can be found in any mode really), REC is no where near as bad as Park. What they need to do is stop asking MYPARK players what the game needs.

Yeah see this is the problem i have with separation of the modes. SIM guys want to enjoy Pro-Am, My Team and Play Now modes also. I'm mainly a My Team player, and it gets no worse than that mode from a SIM perspective. I shouldn't have to stay in MyLeague or Play Now just to enjoy true fundamental basketball.

[jerwoods]

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no wonder i am not good at park i try to play real basketball and i get spammed on

[jk31]

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no wonder i am not good at park i try to play real basketball and i get spammed on

You know back in 2k15 playing basketball was really a viable tactics. We were constantly able to beat those 90+ kiddies with 70 rated players by just playing solid basketball. not possible anymore... reason why I completely stopped playing all those myplayer online modes and focus solely on myleague (online).

[tru11]

Re: 2K needs to stop asking casual Park players like Agent00 about gameplay

Park is pretty much the arcade portion of this game.

Real basketball should matter in Pro-AM/PNO and JRC imo

[Guard-ian]

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To me it is hard to believe and accept that it is not possible to create a game with different modes which will cope with the different profiles of users... Hell even 2 separate games if need be, one more focused on park and myplayer (and with a more arcade approach) and another one centered on emulate real NBA basketball...

They already have the technology and expertise to do it... we have been pretty close many times by the way (2k11 for instance)... and the point is that we are still many people who want a realistic approach to the game so, why not try to have both beeing on the same game (different modes/slider sets) or even in two separate products?

I think the content and tech in NBA 2k is good enough for that.. I still want to enjoy Online Myleagues with my friends having a realistic approach as the centerpiece of our experience... but I also want that those with a more arcade mindset can enjoy the game either... is that so difficult?

[Masai]

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Everything in the park is focused around glitching, every guard needs to have lightning quick release thats faster than Curry, kyrie ball handling and layup package, Zach Lavine dunk packages etc.

Every big man has to be Blake Griffin with Dirk range and Tim Duncan defense.
And then you throw in all these HOF badges lol so now ever player on the court is a God and has no real assigned role.
You’re no longer playing basketball .. and it leaks into the base game