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  • tcnumba10
    MVP
    • Nov 2008
    • 1816

    #136
    Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 2 of 3) - Movement, Contact, Impact Engine

    The clips in this blog doesn’t look next-gen and I am kind of disappointed after seeing the 1st next-gen trailer with the Warriors vs Mavs
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    • ForeverVersatile
      Pro
      • Jan 2011
      • 3498

      #137
      Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 2 of 3) - Movement, Contact, Impact Engine

      Originally posted by stickyfingers
      And you're the one who told me to wear glasses..

      My arguments are same CFs / 3D models, same textures, slightly better lighting, but other games do better.
      Still waiting for yours...
      So I persist, this game doesnt look like NG.
      I can't take you serious when you say I'm comparing a next gen game to last gen, but then you previously said the game doesn't look next gen. Again the PC guys are mad.

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      • stickyfingers
        Rookie
        • Jul 2018
        • 458

        #138
        Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 2 of 3) - Movement, Contact, Impact Engine

        Originally posted by ForeverVersatile
        I can't take you serious when you say I'm comparing a next gen game to last gen, but then you previously said the game doesn't look next gen. Again the PC guys are mad.

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        come on, grow up a little bit, there's no war PC vs consoles.

        if the game was beautiful, i'll be pissed off because it will not be released on PC. But here, i'm just disapointed because we'll have this result for 5/7 years...
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        • ksuttonjr76
          All Star
          • Nov 2004
          • 8662

          #139
          Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 2 of 3) - Movement, Contact, Impact Engine

          Originally posted by stickyfingers
          come on, grow up a little bit, there's no war PC vs consoles.

          if the game was beautiful, i'll be pissed off because it will not be released on PC. But here, i'm just disapointed because we'll have this result for 5/7 years...
          Come on, Man! 5-7 years? Really? You're going to sit here and state this is what we're going to get for the next 5-7 years? Wow...now, you're just being Chicken Little about the game. I understand some people had too high of expectations for the next-gen consoles in terms of graphics, but let's NOT pretend that game developers across all games won't produce better games over time.

          At this point, I don't know what you all were expecting, but sounds like you all wanted gameplay and graphics so dang realistic that you can sell tickets to people to watch you play the game.

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          • stickyfingers
            Rookie
            • Jul 2018
            • 458

            #140
            Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 2 of 3) - Movement, Contact, Impact Engine

            Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
            Come on, Man! 5-7 years? Really? You're going to sit here and state this is what we're going to get for the next 5-7 years? Wow...now, you're just being Chicken Little about the game. I understand some people had too high of expectations for the next-gen consoles in terms of graphics, but let's NOT pretend that game developers across all games won't produce better games over time.

            At this point, I don't know what you all were expecting, but sounds like you all wanted gameplay and graphics so dang realistic that you can sell tickets to people to watch you play the game.
            Well, i havent seen a huge gap in 2K between 2K14 and 2K21.
            Some parts of the graphics are better, some are the same, some are worse (lighting).
            So yeah, a console generation 5-7 years.
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            • ksuttonjr76
              All Star
              • Nov 2004
              • 8662

              #141
              Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 2 of 3) - Movement, Contact, Impact Engine

              Originally posted by stickyfingers
              Well, i havent seen a huge gap in 2K between 2K14 and 2K21.
              Some parts of the graphics are better, some are the same, some are worse (lighting).
              So yeah, a console generation 5-7 years.
              Then I don't know what to tell you other than you need to find a different game that meets your expectations for next-gen gaming. CLEARLY, NBA 2K is not going to do it for you.

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              • stickyfingers
                Rookie
                • Jul 2018
                • 458

                #142
                Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 2 of 3) - Movement, Contact, Impact Engine

                Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                Then I don't know what to tell you other than you need to find a different game that meets your expectations for next-gen gaming. CLEARLY, NBA 2K is not going to do it for you.
                can hope for a wake up, crossed fingers for a real improvement on gameplay side... but you're right, the game delivers less and less of my expectations.
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                • FixEverything2k
                  Pro
                  • May 2016
                  • 577

                  #143
                  Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 2 of 3) - Movement, Contact, Impact Engine

                  Y’all gonna say I’m nitpicking but does Dame not skip steps/Slide into Chris Paul on that charge?
                  ... But hey VC sale!!

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                  • The 24th Letter
                    ERA
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 39373

                    #144
                    Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 2 of 3) - Movement, Contact, Impact Engine

                    Originally posted by FixEverything2k
                    Y’all gonna say I’m nitpicking but does Dame not skip steps/Slide into Chris Paul on that charge?
                    You're not nitpicking...he absolutely does.

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                    • ksuttonjr76
                      All Star
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 8662

                      #145
                      Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 2 of 3) - Movement, Contact, Impact Engine

                      Originally posted by FixEverything2k
                      Y’all gonna say I’m nitpicking but does Dame not skip steps/Slide into Chris Paul on that charge?
                      A little bit, but it looks like it was transitioning from the dribble animation into the charge animation.

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                      • stickyfingers
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2018
                        • 458

                        #146
                        Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 2 of 3) - Movement, Contact, Impact Engine

                        Originally posted by FixEverything2k
                        Y’all gonna say I’m nitpicking but does Dame not skip steps/Slide into Chris Paul on that charge?
                        You're right, btw sliding is more obvious on D.Mitchell clip.
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                        • Gramps91
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 2116

                          #147
                          Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 2 of 3) - Movement, Contact, Impact Engine

                          I’m waay late on this, been busy with work. A lot of good things in the blog. Foot planting and help defense have needed a rework for a while. Makes me excited to see some 5 on 5 gameplay.

                          As far as the graphics, I think it looks great.
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                          • spankdatazz22
                            All Star
                            • May 2003
                            • 6219

                            #148
                            Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 2 of 3) - Movement, Contact, Impact Engine

                            Originally posted by sva91
                            His point is valid, but so is everyone else’s point. The fact that the ridiculously bad player models, NOT FACES, just player models, were untouched, is already a big red flag. They kept touting the game as “built from scratch” when the player models are still the exact same. I know for a fact they have the capabilities to at least improve the player models, but they did not. It takes a lot of the realism out, when these players have huge heads and little legs, and just look cartoonish.

                            Nba live had amazing models, but the game wasn’t great. I just wanted to see an improvement in player models, and we got none. If enough people complain, maybe they’ll fix it, but I’d hate to be stuck with these models for this whole generation, just because people with no artistic sense think they look “good enough” or because it “doesn’t bother them”. No! This is one of the best selling games in the world. The essence of any NBA basketball game should be 5v5 in an NBA court. Fix that before you build a whole neighborhood with a barbershop and footlocker.


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                            No offense, but you sidestepped the questions: Which game is the next gen standard bearer? Don't be like someone else and say "all of them" lol. Complete silliness. Spiderman MM? Ratchet and Clank? Demon Souls Remastered!? Madden? These titles are representative of the power of the PS5 and XSX? What's supposed to be so beyond what 2K21 is? Spiderman MM is coming out for the PS4 too. Ratchet and Clank likely couldn't be done on the PS4, but it's not some reimagining of the Ratchet and Clank I have for the PS4. Dark Souls is a remake of the FIRST Dark Souls game from what I understand. And Madden... Go to that forum and you'll see there are tons of people that would love for the next Madden to be the equivalent of what 2K21 has shown. Instead it's the same old expect the worst/hope for the best scenario. Now there are rumors it may not even be a launch game - when it was already rumored to just be an upgrade of the current gen game anyway. 2K released a current gen 2K21 that had to add enough value to merit being purchased, AND is releasing a next gen 2K21. All after Madden 21 current gen released. Some perspective, please.

                            Everyone's point is valid, to a degree - but it has to be within reason. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but when that opinion can generally be considered unreasonable, then imo it's not valid.
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                            • Schnoodle321
                              Pro
                              • Jul 2018
                              • 519

                              #149
                              Re: NBA 2K21 Next-Gen Gameplay Blog (Part 2 of 3) - Movement, Contact, Impact Engine

                              They focused players not sliding on offence in this blog. My concern is players sliding on defence, and worries me they didn’t mention it. The euro step has been unusable against the cpu for years because the defender just slides with you and the animation

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                              • dal_hawk
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 189

                                #150
                                They really need to improve the look of some players facial hair. Why does it look like Giannas has a full beard?

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