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  • rudyjuly2
    Cade Cunningham
    • Aug 2002
    • 14816

    #76
    Re: Has 2K Next Gen been abandoned?

    People need to relax. It’s easy to see the OP is simply frustrated about a lack of communication. I would also agree with him that this game is a potentially great game hurt by some serious flaws like no double teaming, pick and roll defence, settings not working correctly or whatever.

    Many 2K Twitter accounts may be personal but they have had dialogue in the past to promote and discuss the game with fans. Czar has been in charge of defence since late summer I believe. He has posted YouTube commentary videos before but now silence.

    It takes a couple weeks for patch certification. Really hoping they have a good one coming up soon with the holidays behind us. Given that a lot of these defensive issues didn’t exist in the past I’m hoping they can take the old logic/algorithm and implement it into the next gen engines. Fingers crossed.

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    • tru11
      MVP
      • Aug 2010
      • 1816

      #77
      Re: Has 2K Next Gen been abandoned?

      Originally posted by Vyaras
      For what it's worth, a lot of game studios are on vacation right now or just now coming back.


      How dare they go on vacation or have any free time at all.

      We paid for this product.

      Its an outrage and heads should roll.

      2K is terrible.




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      • TheFgGoatLikesHawks
        Banned
        • Jul 2019
        • 359

        #78
        Re: Has 2K Next Gen been abandoned?

        Spoiler



        You have a lot to learn about business. The customer is always right, unless you like running a business that no one is interested in aka no revenue.

        Business doesn't really care what you think about the 2K community (justifiably) voicing their opinions. Or maybe you're one of those people that love censorship? That's why you're so triggered? It angers you that 2K actually has to face criticism for their product (ya know, like every other product or company out there). We seriously don't need more of that in society. People should err on the side of free speech in a free society. But I'm sure Beluba will send you a gift bag for you white knighting for him on an internet forum lmao.

        There's mob noise (twitter) and then there's actual constructive feedback, or nuggets found within the noise. You trying to broad brush all complaints as "bad" or super butt hurt because Devs should be held accountable (good or bad), is dumb af. Sorry 2K, you make a bad product or demonstrate overwhelming greed, YA GONNA GET CALLED OUT. That's just cause and effect.
        Last edited by TheFgGoatLikesHawks; 01-20-2021, 04:25 PM.

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        • strosdood
          MVP
          • Nov 2020
          • 1167

          #79
          Has 2K Next Gen been abandoned?

          “Sorry 2K, you make a bad product or demonstrate overwhelming greed, YA GONNA GET CALLED OUT. That's just cause and effect.”



          But they didn’t make a bad product this year..... it’s arguably one of the best products they’ve made yet........ there will always be shortcomings and mistakes........ perfection is not attainable in this world as there’s limitations and always will be........ so does the reaction this year really fit the crime? People just love to complain and feel almighty on the internet and it shows




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          • KM1991UK
            Rookie
            • Apr 2020
            • 84

            #80
            Re: Has 2K Next Gen been abandoned?

            Originally posted by tru11
            How dare they go on vacation or have any free time at all.

            We paid for this product.

            Its an outrage and heads should roll.

            2K is terrible.





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            Clearly not what anyone said. But you do you...

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            • Real2KInsider
              MVP
              • Dec 2003
              • 4658

              #81
              Re: Has 2K Next Gen been abandoned?

              Originally posted by TheFgGoatLikesHawks
              You have a lot to learn about business. The customer is always right, unless you like running a business that no one is interested in aka no revenue.
              This only applies at the small scale. Corporations couldn't give two ****s if you take your business elsewhere. You need them more than they need you.

              Whatever money an individual spends - it's completely insignificant to the bottom line. You're never going to McDonalds or Walmart again? Oh no, how will they ever recover?
              Businesses at this scale already know they can't please everyone. It's an accepted loss. If corporations kowtowed to every bad actor, nobody would have a job longer than a month.

              Large businesses/corporations care about specific people - INFLUENCERS - people who could shift masses of people.

              (Hey, that reminds me, isn't there a video game company that caters to the YouTube crowd?)

              But please - keep telling me what I need to learn. Sorry that I skipped your 1970s business class.

              Or maybe you're one of those people that love censorship?
              I don't think you understand what that word actually means. Presenting an alternate view isn't trying to silence anyone. Nobody is taking away your ability to have whatever garbage opinions you want to have.

              It angers you that 2K actually has to face criticism for their product
              If I'm coming across as "angry" in these posts, you haven't been paying attention. Take a breath.

              There's mob noise (twitter) and then there's actual constructive feedback
              Which do you think is in this topic? Where is your gold mine of constructive feedback? Oh right, you're just in a pissing match. Negativity begets negativity.

              or nuggets found within the noise.
              There's nuggets alright.

              Sorry 2K, you make a bad product or demonstrate overwhelming greed, YA GONNA GET CALLED OUT. That's just cause and effect.
              Ironic! Make bad points & demonstrate ignorance, and something similar occurs.
              Last edited by Real2KInsider; 01-20-2021, 05:25 PM.
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              • atlwarya
                Rookie
                • Jun 2005
                • 336

                #82
                Re: Has 2K Next Gen been abandoned?

                I have both PS4 and PS5 versions of the game. Why are you guys complaining so much on Next Gen. This is a well polished game. So what they are spending more time on current gen. That’s the game with more issues. I’ve seen ppl complain about next gen shooting. There’s nothing wrong with it. It has the perfect balance of difficulty.
                Last edited by atlwarya; 01-20-2021, 08:46 PM.

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                • ImInThis
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 380

                  #83
                  Re: Has 2K Next Gen been abandoned?

                  Just deleted the game, feel so relieved.

                  I mainly play Rec. Long story short I run into this team that got Team Takeover twice with 2 shots, all in the first quarter. From there it was raining pure 3s. I quit and deleted the game, had I stayed, in sure they would've gotten Team Takeover another 7 times. It's not about losing, I've lost plenty of times. But the above? There's no way the above should be acceptable. I haven't even touched up on the 6'7 PFs that cooked me or the step back fading 3s people were making, I just dealt with it all. The Team Takeover cheese was the straw that broke the camel's back

                  People will say Rec, Park, &, Pro Am are casual, true, but the whole game is casual. My Team is pure cheese. Play Now? Trash AI.

                  Once the Realism was gone for me, that's it. I no longer have interest in the game.
                  Last edited by ImInThis; 01-20-2021, 09:14 PM.

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                  • ImInThis
                    Rookie
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 380

                    #84
                    Re: Has 2K Next Gen been abandoned?

                    Originally posted by KM1991UK
                    Too many 2K apologists on here ngl. Good luck with this post because the fan boys will come out defending this abomination of a game.

                    Now on the point. This game is completely broken. It’s the most unbalanced, unrealistic, arcadey it has ever been. It is genuinely a terrible game. And this is their next gen release?

                    They’ve clearly abandoned the game this year. And to the people comparing this broken game to EA? EA has its faults, but there is no way they would/have ever let a game release and play out like it does months after release. 2K are a complete joke that has released a complete joke a game this year. Let’s see what 2K22 has in store I guess...
                    The typical fanboy excuse "It's the only basketball game"

                    You CANNOT get through these people no matter what you say. Voting with your wallet is a dumb idea to them. Meanwhile look at fast EA changed Star Wars battlefront for the better. Within 2 weeks they listened to fans all because people didn't preorder or buy the game.

                    I'm 1000% certain the fanbase are teenagers or cornballs who never touched a basketball. Most of us here are mid 20s to mid 40s, we aren't the base 2K caters too. They cater to the fortnite crowd

                    2K is dead for the foreseeable future

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                    • ImInThis
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2014
                      • 380

                      #85
                      Re: Has 2K Next Gen been abandoned?

                      Originally posted by Walt Frazier
                      For the record...I never said the game was 'trash'. In fact, if anyone saw my impressions thread comments I said it was possibly the best NBA game to date were it not a few 'huge' holes...

                      Holes big enough that they let the game completely down...and thus some communication would be nice as to when these might be fixed / indeed if the intention is to fix them / even a "no, sorry, not this time" would be fine as we could go ahead with mass edits knowing PnR is not being fixed.

                      2K "insider"...I'll leave your comments alone as I am guessing you are very young and, at the very least, I admire your passion for the product.
                      The game is trash

                      -Team Takeover in 2 shots
                      -6'7 PFs with 85 badges
                      -Toxic community using every slice of cheese
                      -Fading 3s all game long
                      -Uncontested dunks
                      -Hot Garbage AI that can't defend or score.
                      -Terrible match making.

                      If the Devs at least put in Rec for randoms it wouldn't be that bad, but they can't even do that.

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                      • strosdood
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2020
                        • 1167

                        #86
                        Re: Has 2K Next Gen been abandoned?

                        Originally posted by ImInThis
                        The game is trash



                        -Team Takeover in 2 shots

                        -6'7 PFs with 85 badges

                        -Toxic community using every slice of cheese

                        -Fading 3s all game long

                        -Uncontested dunks

                        -Hot Garbage AI that can't defend or score.

                        -Terrible match making.



                        If the Devs at least put in Rec for randoms it wouldn't be that bad, but they can't even do that.


                        “The game is trash” [emoji23] how constructive and insightful 🤦🏻*♂️


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                        • ImInThis
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 380

                          #87
                          Re: Has 2K Next Gen been abandoned?

                          Originally posted by strosdood
                          “The game is trash” [emoji23] how constructive and insightful ����*♂️


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                          Are any of the things I pointed out not subjected to bad gameplay criticism?

                          Are you gonna counter those points or just sit and laugh which is a coping mechanism for knowing you lost the debate?
                          Last edited by ImInThis; 01-21-2021, 12:02 AM.

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                          • ImInThis
                            Rookie
                            • Oct 2014
                            • 380

                            #88
                            Re: Has 2K Next Gen been abandoned?

                            Here's a great idea, and here me out, let's just all agree that 2K is a casual arcade basketball game like NBA Jam 99. Then and only then will the game be respected for what it is. When you put it into that perspective the crazy amount of 3s, dunks, and dribble spam make sense.

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                            • simbayless
                              MVP
                              • May 2011
                              • 2047

                              #89
                              Re: Has 2K Next Gen been abandoned?

                              Thanks to the youtubers 2k officially is now fortnite basketball for kids and non hoopers. I never thought 2k would slack into the madden world but even lack of competition would make the most humble company become arrogant. Live I hope your watching 2k they just opened the door for you to creep in and raise hell
                              Last edited by simbayless; 01-21-2021, 12:50 AM.

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                              • ImInThis
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2014
                                • 380

                                #90
                                Re: Has 2K Next Gen been abandoned?

                                Originally posted by simbayless
                                Thanks to the youtubers 2k officially is now fortnite basketball for kids and non hoopers. I never thought 2k would slack into the madden world but even lack of competition would make the most humble company become arrogant. Live I hope your watching 2k they just opened the door for you to creep in and raise hell
                                You described it perfectly, that's exactly how I'd put it. 2K is riddled with kids, teens, and young 20s.


                                I just want a basketball game that's close to sim with as little cheese as possible. I'm definitely willing to give Live a try, especially if they make it free to play as Agent suggested. I dabbled in Live 19 but not long enough to give an informed decision. I wouldn't say it was terrible.

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