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  • HBKSean216
    Banned
    • Apr 2019
    • 530

    #61
    Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

    Originally posted by strosdood
    I’m glad someone else said it, after I read his response I didn’t even think it was worth responding to...... he’s obviously either 12 years old or very unintelligent


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    Do you really want to have a "whos **** is bigger" competition on a videogame message board? I gladly will share my qualifications and experience if you do the same. If you won't.. then don't call someone stupid and "12 years old". Especially when you can't even say the comments directly to me.

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    • HBKSean216
      Banned
      • Apr 2019
      • 530

      #62
      Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

      Originally posted by Thrustie
      I have a diploma in Computer Engineering, granted I never pursued coding as a career, and I have to disagree with most of you. Finding issues like why no stats display in a Rec game and some of these other minor presentation issues would not be extraordinarily difficult or time consuming. These coders have much more advanced troubleshooting tools than what a high schooler would have or even I would in post secondary. On top of that, they have oodles of experience to fall back on. It’s possible 2K has a long list of problems to fix and some of these things are low on the priority list but I think you’re letting them off the hook to think they don’t have, or couldn’t acquire, the resources to correct these things.


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      • ksuttonjr76
        All Star
        • Nov 2004
        • 8662

        #63
        Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

        Originally posted by HBKSean216
        Coding text and numbers in a game (specifically talking about the stats being wrong everywhere or not showing at all) is entry level **** buddy. No exageration. Entry level. Sorry it was hard for you? I don't know what you want me to say chief...
        Did I say it was hard? I said I hated it, and it's not easy...big difference. Some stuff is just a pain in the *** to address.

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        • strosdood
          MVP
          • Nov 2020
          • 1162

          #64
          Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

          Originally posted by HBKSean216
          Do you really want to have a "whos **** is bigger" competition on a videogame message board? I gladly will share my qualifications and experience if you do the same. If you won't.. then don't call someone stupid and "12 years old". Especially when you can't even say the comments directly to me.


          Umm u started the name calling....... I respond how I’m responded to


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          • EccentricMeat
            MVP
            • Aug 2011
            • 3229

            #65
            Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

            Originally posted by TheFgGoatLikesHawks
            Tbh idk why some of ya'll are allergic and seem so 'offended' by complaint threads. Complaint threads are how 2K hears how they're doing from the community. Complaint threads are how a better product gets made. Especially if it's on OS, who are typically more sim than people on twitter. Complacency and the 'wrong' feedback is how you get an arcade game like we have now.

            Because a lot of times “complaint” threads devolve into overly-angry rants and personal attacks for no reason. On top of that, many complaints are just vague and non-constructive, as if they’re not looking for a solution or to give honest feedback but instead just to vent.
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            • Walt Frazier
              Pro
              • Jan 2014
              • 989

              #66
              Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

              Is there ANY way to fix the CPU pick and roll D?

              I have tried everyone's sliders...tried HOF...tried it all...

              And no matter what I do, I can call for a pick... using Ben Simmons... and just run around the pick and dunk EVERY time.

              The CPU pick and roll D is atrociously bad.

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              • Gosens6
                All Star
                • Oct 2007
                • 6100

                #67
                Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

                Originally posted by Walt Frazier
                Is there ANY way to fix the CPU pick and roll D?

                I have tried everyone's sliders...tried HOF...tried it all...

                And no matter what I do, I can call for a pick... using Ben Simmons... and just run around the pick and dunk EVERY time.

                The CPU pick and roll D is atrociously bad.
                Unfortunately, we're waiting for the next patch, which Czar says should address this issue.

                Some guys are really unguardable in the PNR, Simmons being one of them.

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                • The 24th Letter
                  ERA
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 39373

                  #68
                  Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

                  Originally posted by Gosens6
                  Unfortunately, we're waiting for the next patch, which Czar says should address this issue.



                  Some guys are really unguardable in the PNR, Simmons being one of them.
                  Dope. Was this in a YT video? Tweet?

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                  • Gosens6
                    All Star
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 6100

                    #69
                    Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

                    Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                    Dope. Was this in a YT video? Tweet?

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                    One of his last YouTube videos he mentioned a specific patch for defense and PNR issues.

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                    • EccentricMeat
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 3229

                      #70
                      Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

                      Originally posted by Walt Frazier
                      Is there ANY way to fix the CPU pick and roll D?

                      I have tried everyone's sliders...tried HOF...tried it all...

                      And no matter what I do, I can call for a pick... using Ben Simmons... and just run around the pick and dunk EVERY time.

                      The CPU pick and roll D is atrociously bad.
                      The main "solution" is to go into the coach sliders and set Help Defense to 100, which will make the D rotate to protect the basket.

                      Guys like Simmons, Lebron, Giannis, etc. (basically all athletic forwards over 6'6") are all too fast in-game due to a glitch with the Speed w/ Ball rating for taller players. For whatever reason, an athletic forward with like 82 Speed w/ Ball rating is faster than a shorter player with 99 Speed w/ Ball. So you can go in and decrease these players' SWB rating individually or just mass-edit the entire roster SWB rating down, then increase the Speed with Ball (Min) slider by the same amount (for whatever reason, the Min slider works whereas the Max slider has no effect). On top of these players being too fast, bigs are WAY too slow and therefore they're complete non-factors as they can't get into position on defense. Easy fix though, just increase the Speed/Acceleration without Ball (Min) sliders to around 55 and slow players will move realistically instead of in slow-motion. Final tweak here would be to increase the CPU Lateral Quickness so that you can't just run around or blow past them with ease 100% of the time.

                      I'd also recommend increasing Driving Contact Shot Frequency as well as the Layup Defense Strength (Gather), Help Defense Strength, and Contest Shots sliders so that the defense is better at defending layups/dunks and is more likely to trigger a contact animation, but some players (typically the same players who have the SWB glitch) are far too good at dunking in traffic as well. Dunk In Traffic Frequency has seemingly 0 effect on this, but lowering the Dunking Ability slider will decrease the frequency of these OP dunks.

                      So yea, as you can see there are a series of gameplay issues all coinciding to create this problem, and all requiring their own band-aid fixes to even start to alleviate the issue. But even with these fixes in place, the PNR hedge defender logic really can't be helped. Sometimes the defender will play smart defense, and sometimes he'll ignore that the PNR is even happening as if he's never played or even watched a game of basketball before.
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                      • Walt Frazier
                        Pro
                        • Jan 2014
                        • 989

                        #71
                        Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

                        Originally posted by Gosens6
                        Unfortunately, we're waiting for the next patch, which Czar says should address this issue.

                        Some guys are really unguardable in the PNR, Simmons being one of them.
                        Good to hear Da Czar is onto it. You are right, some players and teams you cannot use if you want any competition v the cpu. Simmons, Giannis, LeBron...you can literally call for a pick, run around it and dunk almost every time even maxxed D sliders on Hall Of Fame.

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                        • Walt Frazier
                          Pro
                          • Jan 2014
                          • 989

                          #72
                          Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

                          Originally posted by EccentricMeat
                          The main "solution" is to go into the coach sliders and set Help Defense to 100, which will make the D rotate to protect the basket.

                          Guys like Simmons, Lebron, Giannis, etc. (basically all athletic forwards over 6'6") are all too fast in-game due to a glitch with the Speed w/ Ball rating for taller players. For whatever reason, an athletic forward with like 82 Speed w/ Ball rating is faster than a shorter player with 99 Speed w/ Ball. So you can go in and decrease these players' SWB rating individually or just mass-edit the entire roster SWB rating down, then increase the Speed with Ball (Min) slider by the same amount (for whatever reason, the Min slider works whereas the Max slider has no effect). On top of these players being too fast, bigs are WAY too slow and therefore they're complete non-factors as they can't get into position on defense. Easy fix though, just increase the Speed/Acceleration without Ball (Min) sliders to around 55 and slow players will move realistically instead of in slow-motion. Final tweak here would be to increase the CPU Lateral Quickness so that you can't just run around or blow past them with ease 100% of the time.

                          I'd also recommend increasing Driving Contact Shot Frequency as well as the Layup Defense Strength (Gather), Help Defense Strength, and Contest Shots sliders so that the defense is better at defending layups/dunks and is more likely to trigger a contact animation, but some players (typically the same players who have the SWB glitch) are far too good at dunking in traffic as well. Dunk In Traffic Frequency has seemingly 0 effect on this, but lowering the Dunking Ability slider will decrease the frequency of these OP dunks.

                          So yea, as you can see there are a series of gameplay issues all coinciding to create this problem, and all requiring their own band-aid fixes to even start to alleviate the issue. But even with these fixes in place, the PNR hedge defender logic really can't be helped. Sometimes the defender will play smart defense, and sometimes he'll ignore that the PNR is even happening as if he's never played or even watched a game of basketball before.

                          Yeah, I tried all your sliders and they definitely help a lot...not ideal, but def makes it more playable. Unfortunately, even with those edits (as you said) most times you can still score at will with Simmons, LeBron, Giannis...the Hedge AI, as you know, is a mess (praying for a fix!).

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                          • DodgersFTMFWSW
                            Rookie
                            • Nov 2020
                            • 49

                            #73
                            Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

                            Originally posted by EccentricMeat
                            The main "solution" is to go into the coach sliders and set Help Defense to 100, which will make the D rotate to protect the basket.

                            Guys like Simmons, Lebron, Giannis, etc. (basically all athletic forwards over 6'6") are all too fast in-game due to a glitch with the Speed w/ Ball rating for taller players. For whatever reason, an athletic forward with like 82 Speed w/ Ball rating is faster than a shorter player with 99 Speed w/ Ball. So you can go in and decrease these players' SWB rating individually or just mass-edit the entire roster SWB rating down, then increase the Speed with Ball (Min) slider by the same amount (for whatever reason, the Min slider works whereas the Max slider has no effect). On top of these players being too fast, bigs are WAY too slow and therefore they're complete non-factors as they can't get into position on defense. Easy fix though, just increase the Speed/Acceleration without Ball (Min) sliders to around 55 and slow players will move realistically instead of in slow-motion. Final tweak here would be to increase the CPU Lateral Quickness so that you can't just run around or blow past them with ease 100% of the time.
                            Dude. Thank you so much. Just played my first game after adjusting these settings and it's loads better.

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                            • EccentricMeat
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 3229

                              #74
                              Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

                              Originally posted by DodgersFTMFWSW
                              Dude. Thank you so much. Just played my first game after adjusting these settings and it's loads better.

                              Glad I could help! As long as they fix the rotations and hedge defender decision making with this next patch, we’re in business [emoji1305]

                              Originally posted by Walt Frazier
                              Yeah, I tried all your sliders and they definitely help a lot...not ideal, but def makes it more playable. Unfortunately, even with those edits (as you said) most times you can still score at will with Simmons, LeBron, Giannis...the Hedge AI, as you know, is a mess (praying for a fix!).

                              Yea, unfortunately you can only improve the defense to a certain extent, but there’s nothing that can “fix” it until they make the AI, well, intelligent.
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                              The "Movement" Sliders Explained
                              The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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                              • HBKSean216
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2019
                                • 530

                                #75
                                Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

                                Originally posted by strosdood
                                Umm u started the name calling....... I respond how I’m responded to


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                                UHHH I literally said it directly to you. You said yours to someone else about me. Huge difference, chief.

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