There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

[Gosens6]

Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

The lies you tell! I took some computer programming classes in high school and college. Have you ever tried to go through 1000s of lines of computer coding to find a "simple problem"? That crap is NOT easy. In fact, I rather have large parts of the program fail versus trying to find those 1-3 lines to fix a "simple problem". That's real talk. I can't imagine trying to troubleshoot "simple problems" when it comes to game development.

Da Czar does a GREAT job of explaining this in his videos. On the surface, it could be an "simple problem", but it could be a pain the *** to find the problem, then you don't know how the "fix" can impact other areas of the game.

How dare you use logic and reason?! You must be such a “2K Fanboy”!

Didn’t you know game development is SO easy, you just need a basic high school education to fix “simple problems”

These dudes crack me up I swear lol. No point in making logical points here. Just let them have their pow wow and spew their negativity

They’ll be back for 2K22, 23, 24, etc. saying the SAME **** but buying the game EVERY year.

Let them have their toxicity if that’s what makes them happy.


Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

[strosdood]

Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

The lies you tell! I took some computer programming classes in high school and college. Have you ever tried to go through 1000s of lines of computer coding to find a "simple problem"? That crap is NOT easy. In fact, I rather have large parts of the program fail versus trying to find those 1-3 lines to fix a "simple problem". That's real talk. I can't imagine trying to troubleshoot "simple problems" when it comes to game development.

Da Czar does a GREAT job of explaining this in his videos. On the surface, it could be an "simple problem", but it could be a pain the *** to find the problem, then you don't know how the "fix" can impact other areas of the game.

I’m glad someone else said it, after I read his response I didn’t even think it was worth responding to...... he’s obviously either 12 years old or very unintelligent


Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

I’m glad someone else said it, after I read his response I didn’t even think it was worth responding to...... he’s obviously either 12 years old or very unintelligent


Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

Sorry, lol. I done it before, and it sucked every time. The troubleshooting steps are pretty involved, but basically you're going through each line of code to make sure you have the correct formula, directions, expected results, no typos, etc. What's crazy is that you could review the ENTIRE program, and it would STILL seem "right". From there, you had to start "suspending" parts of the program in order to replicate the error. I hated it, man, I hated it. In some cases, it was just easier to introduce new lines of code to circumvent the original error which begins the band-aids on top of band-aids route which is common to computer programming (and presumably game development).

Another real talking point, I actually PREFERRED to do the programs by myself, because then it was MY program. At least if there was a mistake, I had a reasonable idea where to start my troubleshooting. When it was a program created by a group, it forced me to collaborate with other people to make sure they did their part of the program right before I started working on my part. Can you say time-consuming?

And don't even get me started on the human/consumer aspect of it. I swear to God that they can find holes and glitches in your program where it has even YOU scratching your head like "How in the world did you create this error with my program????".

I can only image what the process looks like for today's game developers.

Sorry...I'm having a moment, lol.

[luda06]

Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

I’m glad someone else said it, after I read his response I didn’t even think it was worth responding to...... he’s obviously either 12 years old or very unintelligent


Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

You trying to get banned?

[strosdood]

Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

You trying to get banned?

Did u read what he said to me?


Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

[Dione2014]

Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

No matter how simple the fix may seem. You still have to find said the problem by going through thousands of lines of code. Then you need to find a fix that hopefully doesn't break something else... Which then you'll have to go through a thousand more lines to find that problem and hopefully fix it without breaking another thing. It's very unforgiving. I've only been studying code for a year, but I can assume it doesn't get any less tedious on the higher levels.

Sent from my SM-N986U1 using Operation Sports mobile app

[Thrustie]

There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

I have a diploma in Computer Engineering, granted I never pursued coding as a career, and I have to disagree with most of you. Finding issues like why no stats display in a Rec game and some of these other minor presentation issues would not be extraordinarily difficult or time consuming. These coders have much more advanced troubleshooting tools than what a high schooler would have or even I would in post secondary. On top of that, they have oodles of experience to fall back on. It’s possible 2K has a long list of problems to fix and some of these things are low on the priority list but I think you’re letting them off the hook to think they don’t have, or couldn’t acquire, the resources to correct these things.


Sent from my iPad using Operation Sports

[Hustle Westbrook]

Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

Funny how they get those VC glitches get found and patched ASAP but the glitch that’s been causing my controller settings to not save for the pst 10 years still can’t get found lmao.

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

I have a diploma in Computer Engineering, granted I never pursued coding as a career, and I have to disagree with most of you. Finding issues like why no stats display in a Rec game and some of these other minor presentation issues would not be extraordinarily difficult or time consuming. These coders have much more advanced troubleshooting tools than what a high schooler would have or even I would in post secondary. On top of that, they have oodles of experience to fall back on. It’s possible 2K has a long list of problems to fix and some of these things are low on the priority list but I think you’re letting them off the hook to think they don’t have, or couldn’t acquire, the resources to correct these things.


Sent from my iPad using Operation Sports

Honestly, I wouldn't disagree with your take on it given that you have a degree. However, I refuse to let people believe it's just a "simple fix" given my personal experience in programming. Can it by fixed? Probably. To piggyback off your comment...is it a priority? Maybe, maybe not. Are we letting them off the hook? Maybe, maybe not. I still take in consideration that's it's basically a one-year development cycle, and there are games that have three year development cycles, yet they still release a "broke" game aka Cyberpunk.

Constructive criticism and constant complaining walks a very fine line. I have stopped watching Agent Zero's videos, because all I feel like he does is complain and complain and complain. After a while, the crap just gets old.

[KobeDropped81]

Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

No matter how simple the fix may seem. You still have to find said the problem by going through thousands of lines of code. Then you need to find a fix that hopefully doesn't break something else... Which then you'll have to go through a thousand more lines to find that problem and hopefully fix it without breaking another thing. It's very unforgiving. I've only been studying code for a year, but I can assume it doesn't get any less tedious on the higher levels.

Sent from my SM-N986U1 using Operation Sports mobile app

Maybe it’s time for them to truly break down the whole thing and build it “from the ground up”

Or else this is always going to be a never ending cycle

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

Maybe it’s time for them to truly break down the whole thing and build it “from the ground up”



Or else this is always going to be a never ending cycle

Here's the thing. Unless they build the perfect "from the ground up", they're still going to have problems. Personally, I'm a firm believer on continuing to build on the foundation that you already have. Plus, they're still that looming example of what happened when EA try to completely rebuild their game engine.

I still strongly believe that NBA Live would have been a formal competitor if they just would have continued building off of NBA Live 10.

[KobeDropped81]

Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

Here's the thing. Unless they build the perfect "from the ground up", they're still going to have problems. Personally, I'm a firm believer on continuing to build on the foundation that you already have. Plus, they're still that looming example of what happened when EA try to completely rebuild their game engine.

I still strongly believe that NBA Live would have been a formal competitor if they just would have continued building off of NBA Live 10.

Can’t disagree here . Elite 11 was a disgrace

[ksuttonjr76]

Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

Can’t disagree here . Elite 11 was a disgrace

Man! To this day, I don't what know why they decided to do that. I know that I was playing NBA Live 10 and NBA 2K10 equally. That was just a bad business decision, but who would have thought it would have impacted them as long as it did?

[KobeDropped81]

Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

Man! To this day, I don't what know why they decided to do that. I know that I was playing NBA Live 10 and NBA 2K10 equally. That was just a bad business decision, but who would have thought it would have impacted them as long as it did?

After 10 years I think we can absolutely say that that decision was franchise suicide. They’ve still yet to recover...smh...Live 10 was by far and away their greatest output and the best basketball game released that year (IMO)

[TheFgGoatLikesHawks]

Re: There's so many issues that are simple fixes yet they are ignored... for years

Ah yes, "Feedback".

That looks just like you

I've posted plenty of constructive feedback, try to keep up. You've gone full fanboy. Never go full fanboy.