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  • milkmanbonzai
    Rookie
    • Jun 2017
    • 138

    #76
    RIP shot aiming, 2K's equivalent of Madden's ill-fated Vision Cone

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    • dvir10
      Pro
      • Jul 2009
      • 502

      #77
      Re: New NBA 2K22 Details Have Been Revealed - Shot Aiming is Gone, Improved Defensive

      2k logic is like:

      WWE 2K22 release date: March 22, “release trailer now!”
      NBA 2K22 release date: September 21, “mmmm let’s wait few more weeks”

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      • rudyjuly2
        Cade Cunningham
        • Aug 2002
        • 14816

        #78
        Re: New NBA 2K22 Details Have Been Revealed - Shot Aiming is Gone, Improved Defensive

        Originally posted by vetmin
        So glad I decided to hold out for next-gen on PC instead of getting a next-gen console right off the bat. Seems current- & next-gen are going to be pretty similar for as long as both versions exist, so no big loss staying on current-gen until PC gets next-gen.
        The physics engine with blocks and charges was quite a bit different.

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        • illwill10
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2009
          • 19827

          #79
          Re: New NBA 2K22 Details Have Been Revealed - Shot Aiming is Gone, Improved Defensive

          Originally posted by vetmin
          So glad I decided to hold out for next-gen on PC instead of getting a next-gen console right off the bat. Seems current- & next-gen are going to be pretty similar for as long as both versions exist, so no big loss staying on current-gen until PC gets next-gen.
          It does feel like for most sports next gen games(not just 2k), that we won't see that full "next gen experience" until 2023 when last gen is fully left behind.

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          • Baebae32
            Pro
            • Nov 2015
            • 880

            #80
            Re: Info from Beluba

            Originally posted by daveberg
            Just curious, sincerely - but do you guys actually buy the new consoles just for one game?
            *raises hand in shame*


            As much as i complain, they got me hooked brothers. Certified 2K junkie

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            • AIRJ23
              MVP
              • Apr 2021
              • 2804

              #81
              Re: New NBA 2K22 Details Have Been Revealed - Shot Aiming is Gone, Improved Defensive

              I bought a next gen console just for 2K. I just wanted a basketball game fix and don’t have the time to dedicate to multiple games. Plus I have the Series S which means it has barely enough memory for a bunch of games.

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              • Hassan Darkside
                We Here
                • Sep 2003
                • 7561

                #82
                Re: New NBA 2K22 Details Have Been Revealed - Shot Aiming is Gone, Improved Defensive

                IDK if y'all remember the Twitter poll Mike Wang ran on shot aiming but 86% of voters (138k votes) said they didn't want it in 2k22. I generally prefer disabling features by default rather than eliminating them completely, but I'm not surprised it's gone.

                I also applaud their commitment to 4th gen consoles. PS5s and XSX's are still scarce so there will be a lot of aspiring next gen gamers who don't have next gen consoles. There's nothing Mike Wang said about gameplay mechanics that sounds as if they're limited by what 4th gen can do, so I don't see the problem. He also mentioned other things like foot planting, movement, and of course we know presentation and game modes are different on 5th gen.

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                • daveberg
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 2788

                  #83
                  Re: New NBA 2K22 Details Have Been Revealed - Shot Aiming is Gone, Improved Defensive

                  Originally posted by Baebae32
                  *raises hand in shame*


                  As much as i complain, they got me hooked brothers. Certified 2K junkie
                  Originally posted by AIRJ23
                  I bought a next gen console just for 2K. I just wanted a basketball game fix and don’t have the time to dedicate to multiple games. Plus I have the Series S which means it has barely enough memory for a bunch of games.
                  Fair enough, no judgement - I was legitimately intrigued if people did indeed buy consoles for one specific game only.

                  Bit extreme for me, but so long a you guys are happy doing it, that's all that counts.

                  I play a lot of 2k, but tend to play tons of other stuff, too, so the PS5 was a no brainer for me, especially with massive back catalogue of PS4 games left over.
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                  • mb625
                    DJ2K
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 5016

                    #84
                    Re: New NBA 2K22 Details Have Been Revealed - Shot Aiming is Gone, Improved Defensive

                    Originally posted by milkmanbonzai
                    RIP shot aiming, 2K's equivalent of Madden's ill-fated Vision Cone
                    This was nothing like the Vision Cone. Aiming was a very intuitive system for those who used it, whereas I don't remember the Vision Cone being nearly as intuitive. The reason it got the axe wasn't because it was bad gameplay design, like the Vision Cone. It got axed because it became the scapegoat for zens, which, as mentioned, will exist regardless. The Vision Cone died because it was flawed. Aiming, especially on next gen wasn't flawed in the slightest. People just thought it was being used for cheating and reacted against it (I had a few opponents on next gen, where the scripts didn't even exist yet, think the same) or they just didn't really practice with it and did the same.

                    Any comparison to the vision cone here is just way, way off.

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                    • mb625
                      DJ2K
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 5016

                      #85
                      Re: New NBA 2K22 Details Have Been Revealed - Shot Aiming is Gone, Improved Defensive

                      Originally posted by Hassan Darkside
                      IDK if y'all remember the Twitter poll Mike Wang ran on shot aiming but 86% of voters (138k votes) said they didn't want it in 2k22. I generally prefer disabling features by default rather than eliminating them completely, but I'm not surprised it's gone.

                      I also applaud their commitment to 4th gen consoles. PS5s and XSX's are still scarce so there will be a lot of aspiring next gen gamers who don't have next gen consoles. There's nothing Mike Wang said about gameplay mechanics that sounds as if they're limited by what 4th gen can do, so I don't see the problem. He also mentioned other things like foot planting, movement, and of course we know presentation and game modes are different on 5th gen.

                      Yes. I remember that vividly. As mentioned, the majority of the community believed it to be THE reason for the popularity of zens. The majority of the community didn't understand the system themselves. If you look at the replys, all of them are either about zens, or they're people who used the system legitimately and liked it. There's basically no in between. They listened to mob rule on this one, I'm afraid.

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                      • ksuttonjr76
                        All Star
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 8662

                        #86
                        Re: New NBA 2K22 Details Have Been Revealed - Shot Aiming is Gone, Improved Defensive

                        Originally posted by daveberg
                        Fair enough, no judgement - I was legitimately intrigued if people did indeed buy consoles for one specific game only.



                        Bit extreme for me, but so long a you guys are happy doing it, that's all that counts.



                        I play a lot of 2k, but tend to play tons of other stuff, too, so the PS5 was a no brainer for me, especially with massive back catalogue of PS4 games left over.
                        I'm sorry. To me, the concept of "I'm not going to buy the next gen console until this particular game drops" doesn't seem that uncommon to me. My game was NBA 2K21. Some people could be waiting for Halo Infinite to drop before they purchase the next gen console (obviously, subject to availability). I would like to think that most people are aware of the overall advantages of having the next gen console, so they purchase it according to when they feel like purchasing it.
                        Last edited by ksuttonjr76; 08-22-2021, 08:01 AM.

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                        • daveberg
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 2788

                          #87
                          Re: New NBA 2K22 Details Have Been Revealed - Shot Aiming is Gone, Improved Defensive

                          Zens never factored in for me, at all, being an exclusive offline player. I could care less about online cheese or cheaters. I don't have to worry about those shenanigans, luckily, but feel for those of you who do.

                          Personally I thought the shot aiming was cumbersome and took away the full functionality of the shot stick. Not to mention added yet another distraction on screen, making it feel even more arcade like.

                          The options to revert to other control schemes were lacking, either being forced to use the lackluster button or only given 'down' on the stick as an option to shoot.

                          Considering the shot stick has been the same for years, in terms of holding it in any direction to shoot, then stripping us of that after all this time - was a lot to digest after so many years of a very familiar system.

                          I could've progressed with it, not like it was hard to grasp, but it simply didn't feel like an effective way to shoot compared to years past, and was nothing short of a further distraction, as mentioned.

                          Glad they're leaning more towards 2k20's controls. Will feel much more like 'home' in that regard. For me, anyway.
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                          • daveberg
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 2788

                            #88
                            Re: New NBA 2K22 Details Have Been Revealed - Shot Aiming is Gone, Improved Defensive

                            Originally posted by ksuttonjr76
                            I'm sorry. To me, the concept of "I'm not going to buy the next gen console until this particular game drops" doesn't seem that uncommon to me. My game was NBA 2K21. Some people could be waiting for Halo Infinite to drop before they purchase the next gen console (obviously, subject to availability). I would like to think that most people are aware of the overall advantages of having the next gen console, so they purchase it according to when they feel like purchasing it.
                            That's fine if that's how you see it. Seems odd to me. Plenty of stuff to be playing in the interim, but then, it all depends on if you're into other games. If you're not, then the choice to hold off is understandable.

                            I don't buy consoles on the premise of purchasing just a single game. There's tons of stuff out there I've got on the go right now, next to 2K. I'd personally feel like I'd be wasting money if I purchased my PS5 for a solitary game, but to each their own.
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                            • Goffs
                              New Ork Giants
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 12279

                              #89
                              Re: New NBA 2K22 Details Have Been Revealed - Shot Aiming is Gone, Improved Defensive

                              Shot aiming should've been for offline mode only. I would use that but not against some cheater online.

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                              • MoneyOvaHuds
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2014
                                • 3491

                                #90
                                Re: Info from Beluba

                                Originally posted by VDusen04
                                I might be crazy but I swear I just saw that Ronnie Singh is also involved in a sketchy Twitter fight with Bradley Beal's wife.



                                That's where we stand at the moment. Actual information regarding the game deleted and swapped out for Twitter beef with player wives.

                                Over a 2k rating Ronnie has no control over Beal wife is mad annoying

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