This is the Least Challenging CPU in 2k History.

[Luke Skywalker]

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For those who have an issue with driving being too easy (assuming that isn’t the case with your sliders) I actually tried lowering min/max speed/accel WITH ball 5 points (though I’ve heard those “with ball” sliders are broken and don’t work) and I rose WITHOUT ball min/max speed/accel sliders 5 points. I did these in conjunction with raising defensive sliders for the CPU so not sure the effect they alone have but I feel they’ve made a difference in making driving not too easy and also in allowing bigs to guard me. Also perhaps it’s helped in getting help defense to get onto their man on time. I’d suggest trying it out and reporting back for anyone still trying to find ways to make it harder to drive or who want snappier help defense.

Driving and PNR are harder. I tried raising the layup take off and release because PIP was kinda high (getting into the 50s). However, it becomes way too hard for me Lol.

I might have to increase pass speed so there are more shots taken because defenders close too quickly right now (with my sliders).

[basehead617]

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Uh wasn’t the general consensus that the cpu was too hard this year?

[jrose57]

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Yea that’s why I play older versions. Every new system they tout how smarter they can make the AI. But the AI is getting dumber every year. I guess it’s because they focus on online human vs human play. Offline single player is no longer a focus. This is true of all sports games though, not just NBA.

which past 2k version u enjoyed most?

[NYJin2011tm]

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which past 2k version u enjoyed most?

I've mostly been playing 17. I know most hate it. It's the one me personally I have the most fun with. At least the game has fouls and injuries unlike newer ones. I like the way it plays and getting some good close games. All sliders are on 50 except all fouls at 70, pass accuracy at 45, and inside, layup at 30.

[cvantu]

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I've mostly been playing 17. I know most hate it. It's the one me personally I have the most fun with. At least the game has fouls and injuries unlike newer ones. I like the way it plays and getting some good close games. All sliders are on 50 except all fouls at 70, pass accuracy at 45, and inside, layup at 30.

Up until 2K20, the game always had that momentum shifting blue shell equalizer voodoo that kept games close, so you'd always have periods where your defense becomes idiotic, or their offense juiced. Games would progress in the same patterns. I believe CPU difficulty was just an illusion.

Now that the artificial balancer has been stripped, it exposes the many weaknesses of the AI, not a decline to it. I rather have it this way so that game remains more user based results, and this forces focus on continued defensive AI improvement.

[The 24th Letter]

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Up until 2K20, the game always had that momentum shifting blue shell equalizer voodoo that kept games close, so you'd always have periods where your defense becomes idiotic, or their offense juiced. Games would progress in the same patterns. I believe CPU difficulty was just an illusion.

Now that the artificial balancer has been stripped, it exposes the many weaknesses of the AI, not a decline to it. I rather have it this way so that game remains more user based results, and this forces focus on continued defensive AI improvement.

Agree with this 100%

In years past it common to have thread referencing a ‘comeback code’ or the AI ‘cheating’ their way to victory…now we are at the point where we asking for the latter back for a challenge.

My personal logic has always been to make the user vs. AI challenge FAIR, let us worry about making it more difficult…this is why we have sliders. Understand this can’t be done in MyCareer etc.

Offline, I don’t even have the do an excessive amount of configuring, just tick up a few things that the CPU is lacking…so I’m not slider testing every couple of games and getting frustrated…

[uk389117]

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Anyone else noticing that the cpu is simply unchallenging on HOF sliders? Missing Shots they should make,Not running any type of offense and smoking easy layups.I don’t know what happened but I feel like 2k is purposely destroying mynba to move the base over to Myteam or the City and it’s infuriating.

You are leaving out some key pieces of information, for example, what team you are using and who you are playing against, did u turn ACE off? But realistically I feel like you're just stirring it up, every year there's "that guy" and you're pushing hard to be him.

I'm not sure if you're wanting praise or if you need someone to tell you that you're wasting your time on 2k....if your basketball IQ is that good, we could probably get Mark Cuban to hire you ij the Mavs front office.

But realistically, let's break this down.
1) Missing shots they should make- I've also experienced this at last call and would always think I didn't wanna take the shot that bad. I mean, this is why it's a competitive sport and why not everyone can play professional ball. If you're quip is because it's on Hall of Fame and they're not making everything, I believe you should go hit some people on the football field.

2) Not running offense- one point for you, I have noticed this. The first two triple threats I played were against LeBron James and let's say he had a one legged Sam Bowie (with only one leg) and Shaquille O'Neal's morning turd as the 3rd. Lebron was at the top of the key and it's almost like Sam Bowie and his ojw good leg stepped un in shaqs poo and the shot clock expired two possessions in a row. So should I be mad that lebron didn't do anything stupid or happy that a team like that played defense?

The last season game I played, they ran so much offense I'm surprised they scored over 100 points. And they smoked every layup, smoked my defense and made easy layups.

So you're upset about "mynba", no more jokes. But you've not thought out your arguments because I'm going to assume this was wrote in anger and you weren't thinking. How's the players going to be funneled anywhere if the games that bad? If you're finding hall of fame a snooze fest, why don't you go to the city and wipe the floor against everyone.

And while you're at it, I'll get you to beat every domination with my base team, who are way more like what you described snd less like the computer. In fact, I'd already figured so many people would quit this years game because you're going to have to play some basketball.

It sounds to me, I'm speculating, but you've jumped into whatever you are playing and you're blaming your AI teammates more than your opponent. I may not be any good but I figured I could start clearing domination 3 stars quickly into playing. And no, I got handled.

The real problem would be if you turned up the settings to Hof and they were so easy to beat, I'm barely making it on superstar in my league and like today, against the mavs, they didn't run much offense. Because Doncic was the offense.

Sorry you're so good you're not challenged, I really feel for ya. Sending thoughts and prayers!

[Nevertheles109]

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You are leaving out some key pieces of information, for example, what team you are using and who you are playing against, did u turn ACE off? But realistically I feel like you're just stirring it up, every year there's "that guy" and you're pushing hard to be him.

I'm not sure if you're wanting praise or if you need someone to tell you that you're wasting your time on 2k....if your basketball IQ is that good, we could probably get Mark Cuban to hire you ij the Mavs front office.

But realistically, let's break this down.
1) Missing shots they should make- I've also experienced this at last call and would always think I didn't wanna take the shot that bad. I mean, this is why it's a competitive sport and why not everyone can play professional ball. If you're quip is because it's on Hall of Fame and they're not making everything, I believe you should go hit some people on the football field.

2) Not running offense- one point for you, I have noticed this. The first two triple threats I played were against LeBron James and let's say he had a one legged Sam Bowie (with only one leg) and Shaquille O'Neal's morning turd as the 3rd. Lebron was at the top of the key and it's almost like Sam Bowie and his ojw good leg stepped un in shaqs poo and the shot clock expired two possessions in a row. So should I be mad that lebron didn't do anything stupid or happy that a team like that played defense?

The last season game I played, they ran so much offense I'm surprised they scored over 100 points. And they smoked every layup, smoked my defense and made easy layups.

So you're upset about "mynba", no more jokes. But you've not thought out your arguments because I'm going to assume this was wrote in anger and you weren't thinking. How's the players going to be funneled anywhere if the games that bad? If you're finding hall of fame a snooze fest, why don't you go to the city and wipe the floor against everyone.

And while you're at it, I'll get you to beat every domination with my base team, who are way more like what you described snd less like the computer. In fact, I'd already figured so many people would quit this years game because you're going to have to play some basketball.

It sounds to me, I'm speculating, but you've jumped into whatever you are playing and you're blaming your AI teammates more than your opponent. I may not be any good but I figured I could start clearing domination 3 stars quickly into playing. And no, I got handled.

The real problem would be if you turned up the settings to Hof and they were so easy to beat, I'm barely making it on superstar in my league and like today, against the mavs, they didn't run much offense. Because Doncic was the offense.

Sorry you're so good you're not challenged, I really feel for ya. Sending thoughts and prayers!

What a condescending ignorant post.

1. Some offline players despise online modes due to how the game is played online. Some offline players love the nuances of plays being ran, adjusting as the game goes along, and using actual NBA teams with the current roster. I’ve been playing 2K since 2K1, so this is what I raised on and in my opinion, the most realistic way to enjoy a true simulation style of basketball. It’s simply not fun for me to play online due to the trivial basic play style I’ve encountered. The play style online simply does nothing for me.

2. Some offline players would like a more intelligent CPU with more ACE adjustments on the defense and offense, more exploitation of mismatches, and more intelligent offensive decisions.

3. The real problem you stated is a problem for the seasoned veterans. I say this as humble as possible, but if you couldn’t manage on superstar, why are you so defensive regarding a post that is discussing the HOF level that you don’t play on?

4. Challenging 2K to continuously improve their title in all aspects, online or offline, is what we should ask for constructively on this forum. Attacking one another vs. having an intelligent discussion to push the needle forward is ignorant and asinine.

I am an avid offline player and would happily post games I’ve experienced where the CPU did not put up a sufficient challenge, and I think with adjustments on the AI, the game would be in a GREAT place. This 2K is one of my favorites, but the challenge against any team that’s not named the Nets, Warriors or Lakers is something I dearly crave.

[Luke Skywalker]

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There are so many things you can do to make the computer challenging that any complaints at this point are just bickering.

[AIRJ23]

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What does turning ACE off do to make the CPU more challenging? Or does it?

[Jrocc23]

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The CPU haven’t been as fun and challenging for me since like 2K19. Used to actually rumble with them.


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[Baebae32]

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The CPU haven’t been as fun and challenging for me since like 2K19. Used to actually rumble with them.


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Yeah both the offensive AI and defensive AI have regressed significantly since 2K19. Hopefully 23 is better.

Would like to see the computer get better in 1 on 1 situations. Plays and sets are nice but a lot of the allure of the NBA is in the 1 on 1 skill set of the top players. Lack of dribbling animations/situations is a big culprit. Need to reduce the amount of ground the current animations take up (micromovements) to really replicate the sword fight of the 1 on 1 game. Area of effect is too wide

[NicoS2411]

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I have to say i'm surprised by this thread

I'm playing in Superstar difficulty on PS5 and I'm being bullied by a scripted cpu who just decide to go for a scoring run (or to let me have a run) whenever it pleases him.

First of all, I don't know how you guys deal with the horrible shooting... in Superstar, if you don't green it, it's just not going in. I think i scored like 3-4 non-green (open) shots in like 15 games. Let's also forget it is possible possible to score a contested shot in real life...

My only way of scoring is to abuse Pick n Roll with a quick PG or SG until i get a open path to the basket. The cpu doesn't come help inside and stays on the shooters (even on HOF)... But that's not basket-ball and not at all enjoyable.

I also don't know how you manage the clumsy cpu-controlled teammates who leave their position for no reason... they are a disaster when you run systems, they leave tons of open shots in defense, and when they are miraculously open after a double team, they run towards the defense to catch the ball...

I'm really curious about how you guys would get +20/+30 wins in Superstar or HOF and would appreciate any advice, before my fun for this game completely fades.

[gostate]

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This game should be called NBA2k 98 as it plays like the Knicks vs. Heat series from the late 90s. Games on 12 min quarters frequently finish in the 80s with sub 40% shooting percentages and maybe 1/2 the 3 pt. attempts a modern NBA game has. Why 2k chose to focus on defense when teams are regularly scoring 120-130 ppg. with 40 3's attempted is beyond me. Much more focus should be on quick hitting offense vs. sets that take the shot clock under 10 seconds on every possession. There's zero fast break in this game and it's nearly impossible to beat a defender 1-on-1. Not to mention every defender plays tight on shooters with no need to rotate since you can't get past defenders anyway. There's ridiculous recovery and shot contest that render back to basket play practically useless. I'd much rather have an open, fun game where the AI offense is effective than to slug out low scoring games. There's hardly any fouls, which is ironic considering the way the AI plays defense would be a foul every time. Even step back moves, which are supposed to create space, result in either the AI sticking to the move or the shot meter shrinking by 50%. Steph, Harden, Tatum don't shoot worse off step backs or they wouldn't use them to get free for shots. I keep waiting for the update that opens things up but all we get is 100 player likeness edits and 1 gameplay update. For a supposed sim, this game doesn't reflect the current NBA at all.

[AIRJ23]

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This game should be called NBA2k 98 as it plays like the Knicks vs. Heat series from the late 90s. Games on 12 min quarters frequently finish in the 80s with sub 40% shooting percentages and maybe 1/2 the 3 pt. attempts a modern NBA game has. Why 2k chose to focus on defense when teams are regularly scoring 120-130 ppg. with 40 3's attempted is beyond me. Much more focus should be on quick hitting offense vs. sets that take the shot clock under 10 seconds on every possession. There's zero fast break in this game and it's nearly impossible to beat a defender 1-on-1. Not to mention every defender plays tight on shooters with no need to rotate since you can't get past defenders anyway. There's ridiculous recovery and shot contest that render back to basket play practically useless. I'd much rather have an open, fun game where the AI offense is effective than to slug out low scoring games. There's hardly any fouls, which is ironic considering the way the AI plays defense would be a foul every time. Even step back moves, which are supposed to create space, result in either the AI sticking to the move or the shot meter shrinking by 50%. Steph, Harden, Tatum don't shoot worse off step backs or they wouldn't use them to get free for shots. I keep waiting for the update that opens things up but all we get is 100 player likeness edits and 1 gameplay update. For a supposed sim, this game doesn't reflect the current NBA at all.

“Defensive oriented feeling like ‘98 Heat vs Knicks where you have to slug out points and not as many threes as real modern NBA” is exactly what I like about 2K22 lmao. Modern NBA defense where rules make it easy for anyone to beat anyone 1v1 and CPU shooting nonstop threes would basically be 2K21 CPU defense meets an online park game. It just wouldn’t translate well to a video game imo and would be one dimensional. Modern style defense (an afterthought to offense) is way too easy to beat and exploit in a game universe, which I think is one reason they made it so physical. I personally can’t stand 130 point games, just highlights terrible defense. And this year’s NBA getting ever so slightly more physical and defensive minded again shows that, as scoring is (thankfully) down.

You can still turbo cheese your way to the hole. And CPU against me still shoot a bunch of threes in many games. Often I’ll see 30+ from them. Personally I love that this game plays like classic ball. Makes it feel more physical and wins feel tougher. But then many guys feel this game has no defense so it varies.

It’s important to lower drive tendency for players who have it too high (which is tons of players) and raise mid range tendencies for players. The game will open up a lot. Then lower your defensive strength jump shot sliders for both teams considerably, so you can actually make jumpshots and don’t have to drive every play. I have it set where cpu defense such as on ball and lateral quickness, defensive awareness/consistency are all at 80, but jump shot defensive strength is at 15. So CPU can make driving not feel like a walk in the park for me but I can still hit contested jumpers.