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  • StormsWarning
    MVP
    • Oct 2008
    • 2193

    #16
    Re: What happened to this game? They ruined it

    My problem with this game has been fixed. Thank you.
    I stream a variety of video games for relaxation and fun.

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    • Johnnythelegend
      Pro
      • Mar 2010
      • 812

      #17
      Re: What happened to this game? They ruined it

      Originally posted by The 24th Letter
      We understand you didn’t purchase the game this year. We got it.


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      We understand you are 2k's lawyer, we got it.

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      • Smirkin Dirk
        All Star
        • Oct 2008
        • 5175

        #18
        Re: What happened to this game? They ruined it

        What’s a speed up jumper?


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        • DaWolf
          Old school
          • Feb 2007
          • 628

          #19
          Re: What happened to this game? They ruined it

          Originally posted by Smirkin Dirk
          What’s a speed up jumper?


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          If you had a defender infront of you the jump shot animation would play out faster. If you were wide open the animation would be slower.

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          • Smirkin Dirk
            All Star
            • Oct 2008
            • 5175

            #20
            Re: What happened to this game? They ruined it

            Originally posted by DaWolf
            If you had a defender infront of you the jump shot animation would play out faster. If you were wide open the animation would be slower.


            I thought it was when the shooting form arcs higher when a defender is close.


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            • mori_lucrum_
              Rookie
              • Sep 2022
              • 49

              #21
              Re: What happened to this game? They ruined it

              another player who was really enjoying the game here, glad to find this post... this shooting update really messed things up. unless a shot is 'wide open', the window size is nothing - even with 3 point ratings raised.


              having to tune and retune the game with every update is awful, the fact that they seemingly change what the values mean makes it hard to get into a rhythm offline. speaking of which, the constant nuking of close/inside shots makes it hard to play the game, period. if you can no longer make the best basketball decision for fear of Secret Slider Changes, even offline... its not ideal.
              Last edited by mori_lucrum_; 10-24-2023, 08:57 AM.

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              • The 24th Letter
                ERA
                • Oct 2007
                • 39373

                #22
                What happened to this game? They ruined it

                Originally posted by Johnnythelegend
                We understand you are 2k's lawyer, we got it.
                Been holding that one in your back pocket huh? Good job Johnny

                Originally posted by Smirkin Dirk
                I thought it was when the shooting form arcs higher when a defender is close.

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                It’s the actual shot timing that speeds up

                For instance if a defenders closing out, behind you or at your side you’ll get a quicker version of your jumper and it will read as “Open” instead of “Wide Open”

                It was done to make shooting more consistent and take away some of the variance, but for those of us that play online and have spent a full year, and this first season training our reflexes for that variance, it’s an adjustment. It makes for a more consistent game offline though IMO, along with the shooting buffs they’ve already made.

                I would have preferred they make catch and shoot catches more consistent personally.


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                Last edited by The 24th Letter; 10-24-2023, 06:21 AM.

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                • daveberg
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 2788

                  #23
                  Re: What happened to this game? They ruined it

                  Originally posted by AIRJ23
                  I swear I’ve never experienced a bliss like I currently am by skipping a new 2K game. I always get the new game and spend countless hours and brainpower adjusting sliders after these patches or ghost patches. Dealing with new bugs etc. It’s always insanely stressful having to find a balance like how the game played at launch.

                  I’m on 2K23 and every time I boot it up the gameplay is consistent. Slider tweaks work as they should since no core changes are being made behind the scenes.

                  My courts are glossy and reflective and not like PS2 lighting. Players look sharp and not like clay. Players in the editor screen look like new gen graphics and not PS3 style lighting. I assume I’m using 30 gigs of less space.

                  If ignorance is bliss then ignoring a new 2K is bliss. Every year they adjust gameplay sooner and sooner. Every time a new 2K launches we say it’s the best playing ever. Then usually a couple weeks to a month later we say it’s ruined.

                  This year I swear I saw y’all saying this is the best playing 2K ever for literally a DAY before the patches started annoying everyone. It’s getting ridiculous.

                  I just wanna play ball and not chase under the hood changes. Only way to do that is with an old 2K.

                  Now when I read through Reddit or YouTube consensus starts to look like this is becoming the “worst” or most annoying 2K to play. And I’ve never seen a game unanimously considering to be a considerable graphical downgrade. From here to Reddit to YouTube, the graphics are joked about. Court editor it still screwed up, etc.

                  Proplay seems good, but still in teething stages and not good enough to compensate for the other issues from what I gather. And I’ve never seen a 2K go on sale or be free to play so soon. Every time I boot up 23 they’re bombarding me with discounts or free promos to get 24.

                  It’s wild.
                  Absolutely with you. I stayed with 2k23. Has everything I need to last me for years, especially with Myeras. unless something drastic changes, to which it most likely won't, I've no need to purchase another 2k game for the next few years.

                  Seems like a pattern for me. Normally once every 3 to 4 years will be a solid entry I'll be invested in. 11/12 then 16, then 20, then 23.

                  At least by the time I'm ready for a new game, it'll feel completely fresh to me, instead of 2k23.5
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                  • jeebs9
                    Fear is the Unknown
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 47568

                    #24
                    Re: What happened to this game? They ruined it

                    Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                    Been holding that one in your back pocket huh? Good job Johnny



                    It’s the actual shot timing that speeds up

                    For instance if a defenders closing out, behind you or at your side you’ll get a quicker version of your jumper and it will read as “Open” instead of “Wide Open”

                    It was done to make shooting more consistent and take away some of the variance, but for those of us that play online and have spent a full year, and this first season training our reflexes for that variance, it’s an adjustment. It makes for a more consistent game offline though IMO, along with the shooting buffs they’ve already made.

                    I would have preferred they make catch and shoot catches more consistent personally.


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                    What funny is I got the speed up version drop pack
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                    • Eddie1967
                      Against The Crowd!
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 2405

                      #25
                      Re: What happened to this game? They ruined it

                      Originally posted by Johnnythelegend
                      We understand you are 2k's lawyer, we got it.



                      When does an adult finally move on from a game they do not like and did not purchase?
                      Originally posted by jim416
                      You are the 2k Police. :)

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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39373

                        #26
                        Re: What happened to this game? They ruined it

                        Originally posted by jeebs9
                        What funny is I got the speed up version drop pack

                        Come again? Lol


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                        • ggsimmonds
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 11235

                          #27
                          Re: What happened to this game? They ruined it

                          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                          Come again? Lol


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                          Speed up version down pat?

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                          • Johnnythelegend
                            Pro
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 812

                            #28
                            Re: What happened to this game? They ruined it

                            Originally posted by Eddie1967
                            When does an adult finally move on from a game they do not like and did not purchase?

                            It's not so easy to move on from the game you've been playing for years, what made me fall in love with the game is how great it represented the game of basketball, it was sim first then everything else. But somewhere around 2k17 it started moving away from that selling point and it's just not what it used to be.

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                            • b1g
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2019
                              • 275

                              #29
                              Re: What happened to this game? They ruined it

                              Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                              The patch quite literally made it easier to hit contested shots by taking away the speed up variable. Standstill jumpers weren’t changed.

                              Would think most offline users would see this as a plus with the inability to shoot contested shots and close out speeds being two chief complaints.


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                              Just got it on ps5 for 45 at Best Buy. If this is true and they didn't break too much I'll update my xbox version. Still keeping a backup on my expansion card tho jic. Ghost contest and disappearing greens is my biggest complaint
                              Last edited by b1g; 10-25-2023, 02:50 PM.

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                              • ShawPowers33
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2019
                                • 41

                                #30
                                Re: What happened to this game? They ruined it

                                This game is weird, it went from being way too hard, then the next day I played and it was way too easy I was hitting like 12 contested shots in a row, I was even trying to miss sometimes and it would still make it, it just feels like the CPU is the one making me miss or make a shot, that's not good, they keep updating the game behind our backs, this game is screwed

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