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  • KenXCarson
    Rookie
    • Oct 2023
    • 75

    #46
    Re: Every basket is a swish now

    Originally posted by PhlliesPhan6
    I'm not seeing any jump shots bounce around on the rim or anything like that, but I definitely notice more jump shots and 3 pointers hitting the back of the rim and going down rather than going straight through.
    Yeah, it's not perfect but we're too late in the game's lifecycle for them to completely revamp the physics. Would still love to see more long rebounds, but this is a much better improvement to where it was 2-3 months ago

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    • KenXCarson
      Rookie
      • Oct 2023
      • 75

      #47
      Re: Every basket is a swish now

      Originally posted by shaqfu9
      I don't see any difference. All shots I take with Booker, KD, Allen are swishes.
      That's weird lmao. It's such a drastic improvement from where it was for me back in January. You still won't see shots bounce around the rim or anything, but they will def hit the sides of the rim, back of the rim, and hit the backboard and fall in now.

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      • shaqfu9
        Rookie
        • Feb 2024
        • 184

        #48
        Re: Every basket is a swish now

        Originally posted by KenXCarson
        That's weird lmao. It's such a drastic improvement from where it was for me back in January. You still won't see shots bounce around the rim or anything, but they will def hit the sides of the rim, back of the rim, and hit the backboard and fall in now.
        I did a quick test. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XW8n1PmbrY
        First part of the video is Kyrie hitting shots in 2k23 Old-gen. You can see great variety of ball-rim interactions.

        Second part is 2k24 current-gen. All catch and shoot jumpers, inside and outside the 3pt line are swishes. Moving shots inside the 3pt line are all swishes as well. There's more ball-rim variety on moving shots outside 3pt line.

        I've made catch and shoot 3s with Bol Bol that hit both sides of the rim. So maybe player ratings, bases and releases also play a part on this. But still think the old system was better and more realistic-

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        • BumblingBee
          Rookie
          • Jul 2024
          • 10

          #49
          Re: Every basket is a swish now

          Really odd cause free throws are the opposite. Mostly swishes with jumpshots but free throws it's everything but.
          Have done the free throw practice drill around 100 times and not a single +3 from swishing. In 2K20 nearly every FT was a swish, it was way easier to green but even in greens it would bounce or something.

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          • blashinsky
            Rookie
            • Sep 2022
            • 35

            #50
            Re: Every basket is a swish now

            Was watching a few 2K25 videos and nothing seems to have changed. Every jumper is a swish, and i didn't see a ball hit the rim and bounce in. Granted a short sample size, but how they don't notice this or change it is really something

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            • shaqfu9
              Rookie
              • Feb 2024
              • 184

              #51
              Re: Every basket is a swish now

              Originally posted by blashinsky
              Was watching a few 2K25 videos and nothing seems to have changed. Every jumper is a swish, and i didn't see a ball hit the rim and bounce in. Granted a short sample size, but how they don't notice this or change it is really something

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              Mike Wang tweeted this last week.https://x.com/Beluba/status/1819184796519879123

              So it seems 2k is aware of the issue and trying to fix it. We can't really draw conclusions with 3 second clips. We'll have to wait and watch actual gameplay.

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              • dvir10
                Rookie
                • Jul 2009
                • 496

                #52
                Re: Every basket is a swish now

                Originally posted by blashinsky
                Was watching a few 2K25 videos and nothing seems to have changed. Every jumper is a swish, and i didn't see a ball hit the rim and bounce in. Granted a short sample size, but how they don't notice this or change it is really something

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                2K logic:

                Remove variety of features that has been in the game for more then a decade…

                Come back couple of years later and claim it back as a new feature

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                • The 24th Letter
                  ERA
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 39373

                  #53
                  Every basket is a swish now

                  More like they just took something that way less than 1% of the community cares about and worked on it based off feedback.

                  This is not a back of box feature at all, lol
                  Last edited by The 24th Letter; 08-11-2024, 10:08 AM.

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                  • scottyp180
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 2191

                    #54
                    Re: Every basket is a swish now

                    Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                    More like they just took something that way less than 1% of the community cares about and worked on it based off feedback.

                    This is not a back of box feature at all, lol
                    Was it 2k23 when they added different rim physics? It wasn't a back of the box feature but it was something they brought attention to. When a feature like that is, seemingly, removed it's hard to pinpoint why. It could be an unintentional side effect of other changes and adjustments. Or maybe it was intentional for whatever reason (maybe the physics became taxing on the engine when combined with other features like ProPlay). I wish developers were more transparent and addressed situations like this. Even if it was a BS response (like how for years they told us there was nothing wrong with player court ratios but now they've adjusted it). At least acknowledge customer concerns like this.

                    TBH, I remember noticing the new rim physics when they were introduced but, strangely, I didn't even notice their absence last year.

                    There is so much to see and notice in these games that I think we all have little things (positive and negative) that stand out to us and it's hard to notice them all. Like some people have a keen eye for some of the ProPlay animations (like specific player walk and running styles) while others claim to have seen little to no difference with Pro Play. Something like rim physics and makes being nothing but net stand out to some while going unnoticed by others.

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                    • EccentricMeat
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 3227

                      #55
                      Re: Every basket is a swish now

                      I think 2K25 will have rim roll makes, simply due to the new Shot Stick Profiles or whatever it is called. If we are back to making shots that aren't green-timed, I imagine those will bounce/rim-rolls and then the green-timed shots will be swishes.
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                      • blashinsky
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2022
                        • 35

                        #56
                        Re: Every basket is a swish now

                        Saw another video, and at the 3:40 mark a 3 pointer toilet bowls in so maybe they did improve it this year



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                        • papaey
                          Rookie
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 407

                          #57
                          Re: Every basket is a swish now

                          Originally posted by blashinsky
                          Saw another video, and at the 3:40 mark a 3 pointer toilet bowls in so maybe they did improve it this year



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                          Clearly a mod version

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                          • shaqfu9
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2024
                            • 184

                            #58
                            Re: Every basket is a swish now

                            Originally posted by scottyp180
                            Was it 2k23 when they added different rim physics? It wasn't a back of the box feature but it was something they brought attention to. When a feature like that is, seemingly, removed it's hard to pinpoint why. It could be an unintentional side effect of other changes and adjustments. Or maybe it was intentional for whatever reason (maybe the physics became taxing on the engine when combined with other features like ProPlay). I wish developers were more transparent and addressed situations like this. Even if it was a BS response (like how for years they told us there was nothing wrong with player court ratios but now they've adjusted it). At least acknowledge customer concerns like this.

                            TBH, I remember noticing the new rim physics when they were introduced but, strangely, I didn't even notice their absence last year.

                            There is so much to see and notice in these games that I think we all have little things (positive and negative) that stand out to us and it's hard to notice them all. Like some people have a keen eye for some of the ProPlay animations (like specific player walk and running styles) while others claim to have seen little to no difference with Pro Play. Something like rim physics and makes being nothing but net stand out to some while going unnoticed by others.
                            From what I was told in Reddit the cause of the lack of ball/rim interactions in 2k24 was 2k players themselves.

                            Apparently when 2k24 first released, players complained about their greens not being swishes and about long rebound animations (lol) and 2k devs patched it.
                            Last edited by shaqfu9; 08-12-2024, 04:48 AM.

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                            • AIRJ23
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2021
                              • 2804

                              #59
                              Re: Every basket is a swish now

                              Originally posted by dvir10
                              2K logic:

                              Remove variety of features that has been in the game for more then a decade…

                              Come back couple of years later and claim it back as a new feature
                              Similar to how 2K25 is “bringing back” glossy floors (supposedly). Lol.

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                              • scottyp180
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 2191

                                #60
                                Re: Every basket is a swish now

                                Originally posted by shaqfu9
                                From what I was told in Reddit the cause of the lack of ball/rim interactions in 2k24 was 2k players themselves.

                                Apparently when 2k24 first released, players complained about their greens not being swishes and about long rebound animations (lol) and 2k devs patched it.
                                It's great we live in a time when fans and customers can influence a change in products, but sometimes the creators need to put their foot down and essentially say, "sorry but you're wrong on this one."

                                NBA players are going to have more swishes than not, but it isn't 99.9% of shots. There should be variety and there are options between swishes and makes after the ball toilet bowls or bounces around a few times. Not sure if they could replicate this but I love shots that are almost swishes but just catch the rim or back iron on the way through, making a slight "ting" sound.
                                Last edited by scottyp180; 08-12-2024, 09:31 AM.

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