Rotation is bugged?

[Dorkington]

Re: Rotation is bugged?

I generally "play" as a GM in MyNBA and watch CPU v CPU games here and there to make roster/rotation decisions


Set up my rotation timeline for my team, and put coaching settings to rotation, and it appears to be working as intended the first game I watched. Now I just gotta figure out decent CPU vs CPU sliders!

[GisherJohn24]

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The ironic thing is that the CPU is actually calling a lot of timeouts this year.

I would argue, unless it's a close game or you go on a big run, I'd argue CPU timeouts are still rare. Again, unless it's a close or you go on big runs. On the old game 2k games, probably prior 16. They consistently would use all their time outs by the end of the game, regardless of runs, or not any runs. They would just call a time out a random. And that felt more organic and real to me. Sometimes they just called time out to give their star players a rest. From that standpoint, the 2K subbing algorithm hasn't done that, like I said, probably since 2k16. Now we have a problem with them never subbing! And even worse of an issue!

If you watch the real game of the nba. The winning team still manages to use most of their time outs and subbing out players. Not always, but again, feeling random how they call them is better than seeing the CPU never call a time out throughout a game if they have a big lead. And when they do have a big lead, more times than not, they do NOT call time outs. This has been an issue with the franchise for years.

[IlCapitano]

Re: Rotation is bugged?

Played a game on PC now after the patch, Celtics vs Blazers LBJ era. My subs were set to rotation and it was fine, all players player slightly more or less the minutes I set them.


For CPU they were subbing all players but still the two star players played more than they should have. Roy played whole first quarter and continued in the second until he got injured. Aldridge finished with 44 minutes, but that could've had something to do with Roy getting injured or the fact I used simcast from about end of 3rd to midway 4th quarter.


Will test more in a few hours

[GisherJohn24]

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Ps5 owners, please chime in. At this time I only care about quick play and maybe Franchise (season mode) would like to know if fixed.

I also wonder if we need to start over the season or new era mode to implement the fix?

[GisherJohn24]

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Also, kudos for 2K realasing this pretty quickly knowing it was a gamebreaker for 99% of us!!

Please keep posting if you have input on your fix if you still notice problems...

I'm gonna play a quick play or new era game later and will post my experience later.

[Scioto2024]

Re: Rotation is bugged?

Is that ACE or Rotation? What's the deal with all of the bench guys that have 1 minute?

Subs before dead ball where rotations hit

Not a issue at all

Rotation Auto

[Scioto2024]

Re: Rotation is bugged?

I would argue, unless it's a close game or you go on a big run, I'd argue CPU timeouts are still rare. Again, unless it's a close or you go on big runs. On the old game 2k games, probably prior 16. They consistently would use all their time outs by the end of the game, regardless of runs, or not any runs. They would just call a time out a random. And that felt more organic and real to me. Sometimes they just called time out to give their star players a rest. From that standpoint, the 2K subbing algorithm hasn't done that, like I said, probably since 2k16. Now we have a problem with them never subbing! And even worse of an issue!

If you watch the real game of the nba. The winning team still manages to use most of their time outs and subbing out players. Not always, but again, feeling random how they call them is better than seeing the CPU never call a time out throughout a game if they have a big lead. And when they do have a big lead, more times than not, they do NOT call time outs. This has been an issue with the franchise for years.

CPU TO’s aren’t bad. I think they have to compensate for rotation subs

[GisherJohn24]

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CPU TO’s aren’t bad. I think they have to compensate for rotation subs

I have mine on ACE which I’m still confused what ace is. But maybe I should switch to rotation.


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[GisherJohn24]

Re: Rotation is bugged?

Is it true that this bug also affected the CPU fatigue? Basically regardless of how long they played, they never got tired? Or at least you’ve never actually noticed because it did not affect how they played or shot on the court


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[PhlliesPhan6]

Re: Rotation is bugged?

I would argue, unless it's a close game or you go on a big run, I'd argue CPU timeouts are still rare. Again, unless it's a close or you go on big runs. On the old game 2k games, probably prior 16. They consistently would use all their time outs by the end of the game, regardless of runs, or not any runs. They would just call a time out a random. And that felt more organic and real to me. Sometimes they just called time out to give their star players a rest. From that standpoint, the 2K subbing algorithm hasn't done that, like I said, probably since 2k16. Now we have a problem with them never subbing! And even worse of an issue!

If you watch the real game of the nba. The winning team still manages to use most of their time outs and subbing out players. Not always, but again, feeling random how they call them is better than seeing the CPU never call a time out throughout a game if they have a big lead. And when they do have a big lead, more times than not, they do NOT call time outs. This has been an issue with the franchise for years.

What's weird is that the few Play Now games I played, the CPU would call like 2 timeouts in a quarter. But I started a Curry Era last night and the CPU barely called any timeouts. Of course I was playing as the 2016 Sixers so the game was not nearly as close as the Play Now games I tried.

[GisherJohn24]

Re: Rotation is bugged?

What's weird is that the few Play Now games I played, the CPU would call like 2 timeouts in a quarter. But I started a Curry Era last night and the CPU barely called any timeouts. Of course I was playing as the 2016 Sixers so the game was not nearly as close as the Play Now games I tried.

Ya, that's the main point I was saying, Unless you go on a run or keep it close, the cpu seems to not know the term "random time out" Just to keep things real. Lot of teams in the nba like using their time outs just for rest purposes or call new plays or put in their reserve bench guys. Again, they used to be random on the old 2K games, now you have to hope for a run or a close game to see CPU use time outs. I remember starters would always go out in a blow out, but hopefully with the time out fix, we'll see more subs, not just when they are tired.

Usually if the CPU has a good lead on me. They never call time out. Ever. That was the norm for nba 2k17 - 2k24 from what I remember.

[Scioto2024]

Re: Rotation is bugged?

I just played a beautiful game and lost to the Nuggets by one. Computer used timeouts to break momentum. The only thing I wish they did was take account for foul trouble better, but I lowered fouls to five versus six so I can’t expect them to be 100% on that.

The key to subs for the computer is making sure stars get breaks in the second and part of the third. Manually sub your guys out to even the game out and then have most of the star players play in the fourth. I’ve done it for years and it’s not changing.

[Fake Empire]

Re: Rotation is bugged?

Meaningful timeouts and subs are a matter of a few more dev coding lines. Unfortunately it's all about devs laziness combined with focus on different things like online. Nowadays it's so easy to implement different AI decisions for different occasions but the devs don't care about. I remember myself in late 80s and in 90s writing hundreds of lines in basic, turbo pascal and C++ eventually to cover all possibilities of a real time outcome. 30 years later we're talking about why fatigue, fouls, timeouts, rotations aren't working in a sports videogame.

[Scioto2024]

Re: Rotation is bugged?

Meaningful timeouts and subs are a matter of a few more dev coding lines. Unfortunately it's all about devs laziness combined with focus on different things like online. Nowadays it's so easy to implement different AI decisions for different occasions but the devs don't care about. I remember myself in late 80s and in 90s writing hundreds of lines in basic, turbo pascal and C++ eventually to cover all possibilities of a real time outcome. 30 years later we're talking about why fatigue, fouls, timeouts, rotations aren't working in a sports videogame.

It’s not as bad as you make it. Annoying? Maybe. Game breaker, not at all. Enjoy the game or box it.

I did it with Madden. Not CFB or 2K even with some flaws.

[HesiPullupJimbo]

Re: Rotation is bugged?

Steam discussion claims this bug has been resolved. Going to try a game.