NBA X’s & O’s

[CelticLG]

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I’ve had rough drafts done for awhile now for modern teams. Some teams have 60 plays some at 50. Now I’m just testing in game. What I’ve noticed some plays that work great in practice plays mode are too long in game as they don’t get setup til 16 seconds on clock so I have eliminated a few of those even though they were great and worked well in practice but that’s with them running them in half court with 24 seconds on the clock. So if I see any weird things like that I just get rid of & replace.

Also, I’ve got rid of all running PNR’s that have the screener stopping them starting to set pick again. There are only 3-4 in the game that don’t do this.

Now I’m just waiting for pre season and season to start to give all teams 60 and make appropriate changes. For teams who’s personnel and coaches didn’t change it’s pretty easy to go off last year. But the new coaches and teams with new personnel I still need to see.

Only bad news though is the 100 plays they added last year in update are not in the game this year. Not sure why? There was great stuff they added last year that I tested but never changed last year as I left the game but had notes on for teams. Actions we didn’t have but they gave us but now gone again.

So, I will scout teams to get to the final drafts. Big project & im coaching in season right now too so haven’t had as much time lately.

Good luck for the season Vann! Your guys are blessed to have you both as a coach and a mentor, wish you the best 👊

[vannwolfhawk]

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How are the classic coming I don't really touch the modern era

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I haven’t even started them yet. I’m going to finish modern era 1st. I still need to figure out how I want to do the classic era’s. I mentioned earlier my plan is to do specific teams but they are more year specific. 87 Sonics, 90’s Sonics, 86 rockets, 90’s rockets as examples are completely different playbooks. But I’ll go off the community start points with drafts to recreate. But those shouldn’t be to difficult to create as I already have notes on plays for each team to add & delete per team. I just need to add them once I create the years.

To be honest this thread is more me having conversations with myself as opposed to 10 years ago lol. So, I’m not on here as much and just doing my thing. I’ll post it all when I finish, but especially with classic teams it’s a long haul. So many teams to do. I need to get a team priority list of playbooks to do per year. If anyone has a want in a specific year lmk… I figure this game and mode I will be using for years to come so I want to make sure I do it right so I don’t have to do it again. So I will take my time with the classic era playbooks.

[atlplayboy23]

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One request if you could do the 83-84 Lakers I want to start a my era with them. Take your time man I know you will have them teams playing good when you done.

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[vannwolfhawk]

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One request if you could do the 83-84 Lakers I want to start a my era with them. Take your time man I know you will have them teams playing good when you done.

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Ya no problem. The 80’s Showtime Lakers were my team growing up and that’s an easy 1 for me and I probably already have a list of plays that could fill that teams playbook in my notes already. The great part about that team is you can use for that team the whole decade in 80’s as their roster and personnel was similar throughout the 80’s, so I won’t have to change like the Sonics & Rockets examples I gave. Iirc they had about 15-20 plays already that can stick in their playbook. That will most likely be 1 of the 1st classic playbooks I’ll do.

[atlplayboy23]

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Ya no problem. The 80’s Showtime Lakers were my team growing up and that’s an easy 1 for me and I probably already have a list of plays that could fill that teams playbook in my notes already. The great part about that team is you can use for that team the whole decade in 80’s as their roster and personnel was similar throughout the 80’s, so I won’t have to change like the Sonics & Rockets examples I gave. Iirc they had about 15-20 plays already that can stick in their playbook. That will most likely be 1 of the 1st classic playbooks I’ll do.

Thanks man can't wait for this playbook

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[Baebae32]

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Vann do you have a spreadsheet/database of all the plays that the AI runs well this year?

Im making a custom roster and would like to incoporate your findings

[frank70]

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But how to get the cpu to run all the plays?

When i set "run plays" to auto my team runs the same handful of plays over and over again (and the opposition cpu team as well). And this although i have the "run plays" slider in the coach menu very high.

Does the cpu only run freelance plays without going in the playbook?

[rjohns23]

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But how to get the cpu to run all the plays?



When i set "run plays" to auto my team runs the same handful of plays over and over again (and the opposition cpu team as well). And this although i have the "run plays" slider in the coach menu very high.



Does the cpu only run freelance plays without going in the playbook?

I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing this. Seems like the CPU never goes into their set. Just freelance. And the basic 3 out 2 in freelance at that.

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[vannwolfhawk]

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But how to get the cpu to run all the plays?

When i set "run plays" to auto my team runs the same handful of plays over and over again (and the opposition cpu team as well). And this although i have the "run plays" slider in the coach menu very high.

Does the cpu only run freelance plays without going in the playbook?

I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing this. Seems like the CPU never goes into their set. Just freelance. And the basic 3 out 2 in freelance at that.

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Interesting you guys are having issues with this. I am not at all. What system? I’m on Xbox x. I see no series and only get freelance maybe 1 out of every 4-5 possessions. This is the 1 year I have actually dropped play call to 80 to see more freelance.

I’m also seeing a ton of variety with cpu using whole playbook. 50-60 plays per team. Do you guys have ace on or off? I’ve tried both and both were the same. Also, I’ve tried it with cpu calling my playcalling and had show all play calls to see what they were calling and still a wide variety.

What I’m not sure about is I have dynamic playcalling on and repeat plays with success. I have seen a few plays used in succession a few times but not very often.

So ya idk & haven’t experienced that at all.

[vannwolfhawk]

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Vann do you have a spreadsheet/database of all the plays that the AI runs well this year?

Im making a custom roster and would like to incoporate your findings

Unfortunately no. I’m old school and everything in writing pen to paper. Faster for me.

[frank70]

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Interesting you guys are having issues with this. I am not at all. What system? I’m on Xbox x. I see no series and only get freelance maybe 1 out of every 4-5 possessions. This is the 1 year I have actually dropped play call to 80 to see more freelance.

I’m also seeing a ton of variety with cpu using whole playbook. 50-60 plays per team. Do you guys have ace on or off? I’ve tried both and both were the same. Also, I’ve tried it with cpu calling my playcalling and had show all play calls to see what they were calling and still a wide variety.

What I’m not sure about is I have dynamic playcalling on and repeat plays with success. I have seen a few plays used in succession a few times but not very often.

So ya idk & haven’t experienced that at all.

Would you recommend ACE on or off?

[rjohns23]

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I'm on current gen PC. But it wasn't like this last year.

Now it could be because the season hasn't started yet but I doubt it. Seems like it's a bug.

Haven't really tested it throughly yet but just played a MyLeague game against the Grizzles (cpu) and they ran the same crap over and over.

Even when I changed their playbook and team profile.

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[frank70]

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Is Da Csar aware of that problem?

For me that is a gamebreaker. Every team only runs a handful of plays.

[taildog]

NBA X’s & O’s

Is Da Csar aware of that problem?

For me that is a gamebreaker. Every team only runs a handful of plays.

I think czar said you need to have at least 50 plays and make sure your play types are set accurately

[taildog]

NBA X’s & O’s

We’ve also got to take into consideration the “touches” tendency of your players. That tendency impacts the plays the CPU is going to call. If you have a player with a 95 touches tendency rating, with 3pt plays as his #1 play type with only 3 or 4 3pt plays in your playbook…you’re definitely gonna see the CPU call those plays more with or without ACE on.

This has always been the case with auto playcalling. That’s why I either call plays manually or in franchise mode turn everyone’s touch tendencies down. Back on 2k11 I figured that if I turned it down to 20 then each player would have a 1 in 5 chance of the cpu calling a play for them. NOTE: This does not mean role players would take the same amount of shots as stars as shot attempts also feed off of shot tendency ratings. I got pretty good results in game. Sim stats could have been better so I started looking at actual usage% advanced stat and started using those. So if Kobe had a 28% usage rate then I changed his rating to 28 and use the same logic to edit other players. Even better results in game and sim-wise.