Shady Mike's "Real Feel" NBA 2K15 Real FG% Superstar Sliders

[jr86]

Re: Shady Mike's "Real Feel" NBA 2K15 Real FG% Superstar Sliders

10char.....

To give some insight on the actual tuning that I made... here's essentially what happened.

The shot heuristics are pretty complex but at a basic level, pre-patch the numbers looked something like this for a decent shooter at mid-range:
Wide open = 45%
Fully Contested = 35%
Heavily Contested = 10%

That's why many people complained that "being open" didn't really matter much, and they were right. Post-patch, that same shooter is now:
Wide open = 60%
Fully Contested = 20%
Heavily Contested = 10%

So over the course of the game, assuming both teams shoot an even spread of open and contested jumpers, you should've seen zero change to your end of game shot percentages when comparing pre and post patch. But if you trend hard one way or the other (all your shots are open or all your shots are contested), you would've seen a very noticeable change. Now I also fixed the "glitched" shots being unable to get perfect release, so that will factor in as well.

But if both teams play solid defense, I can believe that a player might go 80% from the field from time to time, but it definitely shouldn't be the norm. Also, in case you're wondering, I didn't touch 3PT percentages at all, only layup, close and mid-range values.

From the feedback, it seems like head to head play is much closer to what I'm looking for in terms of making the game more fun and users are rewarded for getting high quality looks. But if you guys are torching the AI offline, you might have to do some slider tweaking for this year and get in Da Czar and OG's ears to ensure the AI puts up a better fight in 2K16.

[TheWood56]

Re: Shady Mike's "Real Feel" NBA 2K15 Real FG% Superstar Sliders

Fixing the jumpshots that were unable to get perfect releases will subsequently raise 3 point shooting %, as there are more perfect releases, and therefore more made jumpers (including 3 pointers).

[jr86]

Re: Shady Mike's "Real Feel" NBA 2K15 Real FG% Superstar Sliders

Fixing the jumpshots that were unable to get perfect releases will subsequently raise 3 point shooting %, as there are more perfect releases, and therefore more made jumpers (including 3 pointers).

If this slider set was based on user timing then i would tend to agree...however as it is for Real Fg % i don't think getting perfect releases play into making more jumpers so 3pt % should not have changed.

[still_ballin]

Re: Shady Mike's "Real Feel" NBA 2K15 Real FG% Superstar Sliders

If this slider set was based on user timing then i would tend to agree...however as it is for Real Fg % i don't think getting perfect releases play into making more jumpers so 3pt % should not have changed.

the timing of the release still matters even if u play with real% fg u still gotta pay attention to various releases (early late) to increase the probability of the shot going in
i tested that alot when i was debating whether or not to play with user timing or real fg as i always preferred real fg (im a 2k nba player since 2k2 with allen iverson on the cover)

[Shady Mike]

Re: Shady Mike's "Real Feel" NBA 2K15 Real FG% Superstar Sliders

the timing of the release still matters even if u play with real% fg u still gotta pay attention to various releases (early late) to increase the probability of the shot going in
i tested that alot when i was debating whether or not to play with user timing or real fg as i always preferred real fg (im a 2k nba player since 2k2 with allen iverson on the cover)

That is incorrect. The timing has NO EFFECT whatsoever on the probability of the shot going in when using Real shooting% none whatsoever...I have tested and debated this over and over again on these boards I have gone into games and played the full game shooting by just holding square down and just tapping the button as well, and the ball goes in consistently...It has no effect at all.

Fixing the jumpshots that were unable to get perfect releases will subsequently raise 3 point shooting %, as there are more perfect releases, and therefore more made jumpers (including 3 pointers).

If this slider set was based on user timing then i would tend to agree...however as it is for Real Fg % i don't think getting perfect releases play into making more jumpers so 3pt % should not have changed.

JR is 110% correct in everything he's said up to this point because the timing does not effect jumpers, so the %'s of the 3ptrs SHOULDN'T have been different. But for whatever reason and idk if it was just because players were getting hot from hitting other shots on the court but before I adjusted the set 3's were dropping left and right and that showed in both my stats and other's stats...

EDIT:Oh and the one game where Demar Derozan shot 6-10 from 3 with 39 points pissed me off so much that I know I went and made immediate adjustments right after that because someone with a 75 3pt rating shouldn't be shooting like that.

[ArtKO171]

Re: Shady Mike's "Real Feel" NBA 2K15 Real FG% Superstar Sliders

Hi,
The ps4 version, is concerned by this patch ?
Thanks

[jake44np]

Re: Shady Mike's "Real Feel" NBA 2K15 Real FG% Superstar Sliders

CPU fg %s are way to low now.
The last two games they have shot around 35%.

[BenBobOmb]

Re: Shady Mike's "Real Feel" NBA 2K15 Real FG% Superstar Sliders

I'm 2 games into my new MyLeague with the Spurs using this Slider set and after good starts in the 1st quarter I get overrun in the 2nd. Dirk showed off what he's still capable of in the first game scoring 42 points with his first miss 8 minutes into the 3rd quarter and in the second game Eric Bledsoe killed my Defense with his drive through the middle (where my guys somehow opened up a lane for him every now and then). In both games the Mavs and Suns shot 47FG% and 46FG% while I missed some what seemed to be easy shots but I made the wrong choice with floaters sometimes.

All in all I really like the Sliders but I had to lower the Injury Sliders because I had 3 bruised tailbones alone in game 1 and a torn MCL in game 2. I still have to adjust to the competition of the CPU because I committed 17 TO's in both of the games mostly with stupid passing decisions in the fast break.

[Shady Mike]

Re: Shady Mike's "Real Feel" NBA 2K15 Real FG% Superstar Sliders

CPU fg %s are way to low now.
The last two games they have shot around 35%.

I'm 2 games into my new MyLeague with the Spurs using this Slider set and after good starts in the 1st quarter I get overrun in the 2nd. Dirk showed off what he's still capable of in the first game scoring 42 points with his first miss 8 minutes into the 3rd quarter and in the second game Eric Bledsoe killed my Defense with his drive through the middle (where my guys somehow opened up a lane for him every now and then). In both games the Mavs and Suns shot 47FG% and 46FG% while I missed some what seemed to be easy shots but I made the wrong choice with floaters sometimes.

All in all I really like the Sliders but I had to lower the Injury Sliders because I had 3 bruised tailbones alone in game 1 and a torn MCL in game 2. I still have to adjust to the competition of the CPU because I committed 17 TO's in both of the games mostly with stupid passing decisions in the fast break.

Conflicting feedback...that is what I like to see, means we're getting variety thank you both for your feedback. And on the injuries I know I have said this before but THIS is where I say there may be a difference from Person to person lol...with this set I have had to have played about 40 games since Friday and I haven't seen a SINGLE injury at all and I have a lot of people saying they are seeing too many.

[MattyIce]

Re: Shady Mike's "Real Feel" NBA 2K15 Real FG% Superstar Sliders

EDIT:Oh and the one game where Demar Derozan shot 6-10 from 3 with 39 points pissed me off so much that I know I went and made immediate adjustments right after that because someone with a 75 3pt rating shouldn't be shooting like that.

I just got out of a 1st round playoff matchup with my Bulls against Toronto. A series that went all the way to down to a game seven in Toronto. I think in Game 1 Derozan had somewhere close to 38 pts and shot like 70 % from the field. I thought it was just a fluke, but then he was continuously knocking down jumpers at a rediculous rate over the next 6 games. Even with Jimmy guarding him he woudld still get his shots. He's a good player dont get me wrong but I thought I was going to get bumped out of the playoffs early because he averaged around 25 per game in that series. It was a fun challenge from game to game though...

[Lala]

Re: Shady Mike's "Real Feel" NBA 2K15 Real FG% Superstar Sliders

This was an awesome game, the gameplay felt perfect. My Mavs missed all their 3's in the first half and shot around 44% from the field.

They came out like gangbusters in the second half only missing one 3 pointer and overcoming a 16 point deficit. Chandler was huge with 17 boards and Dirk dropped 28 pts, 16 in the second half.

Chris Paul had 23 Pts and 13 ast. but he shot 6-23 from the field.

[iRepOklahoma]

Re: Shady Mike's "Real Feel" NBA 2K15 Real FG% Superstar Sliders

Don't have stats, but I just got DRUG by the CPU for maybe the first time in my NBA2k Career haha... And it didn't feel cheap/cheesy either. Great slider set my man.

[tebowtime15]

Re: Shady Mike's "Real Feel" NBA 2K15 Real FG% Superstar Sliders

I plugged these in and started a new MyGM. These play really well the first two or three years with my team. Then the crazy progression of players threw everything out of wack and every game both teams were stayed over 50% from the field and the free throws were usually around 90% each game. I wish they would fix it!

[apollooff320]

Re: Shady Mike's "Real Feel" NBA 2K15 Real FG% Superstar Sliders

I plugged these in and started a new MyGM. These play really well the first two or three years with my team. Then the crazy progression of players threw everything out of wack and every game both teams were stayed over 50% from the field and the free throws were usually around 90% each game. I wish they would fix it!

Wait wut? I thought the fixed the progression bug already.

[tebowtime15]

Re: Shady Mike's "Real Feel" NBA 2K15 Real FG% Superstar Sliders

Wait wut? I thought the fixed the progression bug already.

They did. I goofed up and used the old out of date draft classes haha