NBA 2K17 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

[EccentricMeat]

IMPORTANT NOTE: This is just the very initial FULL BETA release of my sliders, and I have yet to fine-tune a number of settings (Most of which have to do with AI decision making). This update fills out the rest of my slider set, getting rid of all empty values from the v0.1 BETA. Gameplay will be tweaked and fine-tuned from here, but this is a fantastic base to work with!


2k Default Roster Slider Set v0.2.3 *BETA* - Latest Update: July 24th

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Roster - 2K Default or any roster with limited/no tendency tweaks. My suggestions:


PS4 - EmbraceThePace Offseason Roster
Roster Thread

XB1 - BryanDfor3 Offseason Roster
Roster Thread


Gameplay Settings
Difficulty - Superstar
Quarter Length - 12 Minutes
Fatigue - On
Injuries - On
Game Speed - 56
Free Throw Difficulty - 50
Shooting Type - User Timing
FT Shooting Type - Real Player %
Shot Meter - Off
Shot Feedback - Off

Coach Settings
PlayVision - All Plays
PlayVision Display - Full
Offense Playcalling - Auto

These settings make your offense wake the hell up! Your AI teammates will no longer stand around doing nothing. Instead, they will be running plays and creating opportunities for your half-court offense.

Controller Settings
Defensive Assist Strength - 50 (Removes a lot of sliding on defense while also triggering WAY more player-interaction animations)
Automatic Shot Contest - User Preference (I use Intense D)

Camera Settings
Drive
Zoom - 1
Height - 5
Key Zoom - Off

This camera view makes the game come ALIVE! It will take a few minutes to get used to, but I think that once you do you won't be able to play the game any other way!

Feel free to use the Broadcast camera view if you'd prefer. The game still looks and plays great from that view (I actually used it in my testing to make sure the player/animation speed was realistic), I just prefer the Drive camera.

User vs. CPU Sliders
If there is only one value listed, it applies to both User and CPU. If there are two values, they will be in User/CPU format.

Offense
Inside Shot Success - 40
Close Shot Success - 41
Mid-Range Shot Success - 44/45
3PT Success - 48/50
Layup Success - 47
Dunk in Traffic Frequency - 70
Dunk in Traffic Success - 40
Pass Accuracy - 49
Alley-Oop Success - 50
Contact Shot Success - 49
Ball Security - 75
Body-Up Sensitivity - 100

Defense
Driving Contact Shot Frequency - 100
Inside Contact Shot Frequency - 100
Layup Defense Strength (Takeoff) - 65
Layup Defense Strength (Release) - 65
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Gather) - 40
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Release) - 60/70
Help Defense Strength - 65
Steal Success - 50

Attributes
Acceleration - 44/41
Vertical – 52/49
Strength – 52/49
Stamina – 50
Speed – 40/37
Durability - 50
Hustle – 100/50
Ball Handling – 53/50
Hands – 53/50
Dunking Ability - 50
On-Ball Defense – 35/30
Stealing – 50
Blocking – 53
Offensive Awareness - 50
Defensive Awareness – 60
Offensive Rebounding - 52/49
Defensive Rebounding – 52/49
Offensive Consistency - 40 (Some games will be shootouts, others you won't be able to buy a basket)
Defensive Consistency - 60
Fatigue Rate – 50
Lateral Quickness - 0

Tendencies
Take Inside Shots - 48
Take Close Shots - 40
Take Mid-Range Shots - 50
Take 3PT Shots - 48
Post Shots - 65
Attack the Basket - 75
Look for Post Players - 65
Throw Alley-Oops - 50
Attempt Dunks - 50
Attempt Putbacks - 40
Play Passing Lanes - 100/70
Go for On-Ball Steals - 65
Contest Shots - 100/70
Backdoor Cuts - 10

Fouls
Over the Back Foul Frequency - 100
Charging Foul Frequency - 85
Blocking Foul Frequency - 85
Reaching Foul Frequency - 25
Shooting Foul Frequency - 80/68
Loose Ball Foul Frequency - 100

PS4 2K Share
Online ID: EccentricMeat
Content Name: TheEccentricEdition

XB1 2K Share
Online ID: Marina Oswald
Content Name: Eccentric v0.2.2

Note: The above files on 2K Share are NOT fully updated. Simply download the file and then change the few settings posted in BOLD above.


See It in Action

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Here's a quick clip of the dribble-drive animations I've achieved with v0.2

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And another clip here to show that although it's easier getting past a perimeter defender, you can't just spam drives to the basket all day:

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The following video shows a few different aspects of gameplay during a series of back and forth offensive possessions. You'll see the AI taking advantage of a mismatch when IT is caught defending Wiggins in the post, the USER taking advantage of a brief friendly-fire screen as Gordon Hayward explodes out of the triple-threat when Wiggins brushes past a nearby teammate, Wiggins out for revenge the next trip down the court, and finally a beautifully executed pick-n-pop for the C's.

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A quick clip showcasing the fact that Karl Anthony Towns is a BEAST in v0.2!

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#JustCurryThings

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My Current Focus Areas
On-Ball Defense/Defensive Rotations/Shot Contests
Overall AI Offensive Tendencies

PLEASE post any and all CONSTRUCTIVE feedback, positive or negative, so that I know what people like about my slider set and what I need to improve on! Also, please post any and all personal findings and/or tweaks you've tried out! Try to point out what you are seeing too much of (ex. The AI attacks the basket too often), what you're not seeing enough of (ex. The AI does not go to the post often enough), etc. And also, it's just fun to see the results everyone is getting and to have a discussion on what can be improved/what should be left alone.

Here's a simple resource I made to help depict what exactly "realistic stats" should look like:
NBA Stats to Replicate with Sliders

Thanks to everyone who gave my thread a 1-star rating before I even posted my slider set!

Now that I have FINALLY posted a full slider set, give them a try and rate my thread accordingly! And as always, PLEASE feel free to LIKE this post if this thread has helped you out in anyway (or if you just think I'm a cool guy). It is greatly appreciated.

Enjoy!

[lareka]

Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

I played 5 full games since Monday.

The default sliders are pretty good this year although in each difficulty level the sliders are automatically changing there will be still matters that should be handled.

In superstar difficulty, CPU's shooting ratings are automatically at 54 while the users are at 50.

The movement of the players, the realism has upped considerably and i'm very happy that they addressed the foul issues, you don't need to adjust anything now, you get the calls by default.

The contact system is pretty good, the refs. call fouls when they are fouls and they let it go when there is minimal contact.

The CPU is pretty smart, the teams play very similar to their real versions as GSW takes quick shots, Curry plays like Curry, dribbles to create a 3 pointer or goes through to finish at the rim. Toronto plays 4+ 1 big men and Lowry always drives and creates shots for himself or for the open players.

I played with auto subs. method and I played with players that were not playing well together for my liking that's why I lost more games that I usually do ( 1 win, 4 loss - 2 against GSW and CLE) with Detroit, Denver and Milwaukee.

I think the game is pretty good, you'll all love it this year.

With minimal slider changes we'll all enjoy the best b.ball simulation as always

[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set



The most beautiful thing I've ever seen.

[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

After a few hours of gameplay, I can safely say that this game plays BEAUTIFULLY out of the box. I'm going to be spending a lot of time figuring out what actually NEEDS to be tweaked.

[MielVB]

Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

Eccentric, what would you say is the starting point for pretty well rounded but not great 2K veterans? Superstar? Do you get realistic shooting percentages so far?

Thanks for all your hard work, as always!

[lareka]

Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

Eccentric, what would you say is the starting point for pretty well rounded but not great 2K veterans? Superstar? Do you get realistic shooting percentages so far?

Thanks for all your hard work, as always!

I got very realistic shooting % in Superstar both for CPU and User. I'm not sure if there is any need to tweak shooting numbers in sliders

[lareka]

Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

After a few hours of gameplay, I can safely say that this game plays BEAUTIFULLY out of the box. I'm going to be spending a lot of time figuring out what actually NEEDS to be tweaked.

That's true.

Most of the out-of-box problems in previous 2K's do not exist this year:

Rebounding Issues
Lack of Foul Calls
Too many Steals
High Percentage Shots

[GuerrillaGrom]

Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

We gonna have to see after a few patches release, 2K always plays decent out the box then them patches come out....patches💉

[rjohns23]

Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

That's true.

Most of the out-of-box problems in previous 2K's do not exist this year:

Rebounding Issues
Lack of Foul Calls
Too many Steals
High Percentage Shots

Yea I agree. I've played 2 12 min games on HOF and one where I watched CPU vs CPU on HOF. Some things I also noticed:

Too many CPU passes to the paint that results in steals.
Too many pull up threes in transition by players that don't jack up threes like that.

Those were the only two things that stood out to me.

[lareka]

Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

Yea I agree. I've played 2 12 min games on HOF and one where I watched CPU vs CPU on HOF. Some things I also noticed:

Too many CPU passes to the paint that results in steals.
Too many pull up threes in transition by players that don't jack up threes like that.

Those were the only two things that stood out to me.

In general there are too many three pt shot attempts by CPU. But when you look at the NBA now, this is actually what is happening with most teams. They should limit the transition pull-up three attempts though. Transition corner threes are regular in the NBA but pull-up jumpshots from 3 p. range are rare. Only some guys do it regularly like Steph, Lowry and etc.

One thing to say in general about the game is the flow.

The game is fluid, it's flowing naturally. That's great, you can't adjust that with the sliders. Players' dribbling, movements are very realistic and smooth.

[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

I agree with everything you guys have said so far! Usually out of the box there are glaring issues (blocks, rebounds, fouls, AI tendencies) but those all seem to be playing great at the moment.

Played a game on All Star and another on Superstar, but that's not nearly enough time for me to come to a decision on what difficulty is best.

When I get off work in a few hours I'll get back to work. I look forward to your guys' findings as well!

[carter_shade]

Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

So, I just opened the game for the first time, and I'm trying to figure out if the game has functionally just merged the difficulty level with the slider set, as opposed to setting the difficulty level to adjust general AI intelligence and then setting sliders to impact play style?

There's obviously still the option to set the difficulty in the regular options menu, so is this a merely cosmetic move?

[TarHeelPhenom]

Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

In another thread I read that Czar explained that this year is totally different. Instead of difficulty level determining how much of a boost the. AI gets ratings wise, it determines how many adjustments the AI makes within the ACE engine. So for example playing on Pro, the AI may make only 1 adjustment during a possession or what have you...whereas on HOF the ACE engine is used to the fullest by the AI. Personally it's a brilliant idea to have it that way. I.stead of "cheat code" where the AI receives boots and they won't miss anything or whatever...they make intelligent adjustments.

[EccentricMeat]

Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

How is everyone feeling about game speed? I set it to 48 and the game felt a little more grounded. Gonna give 49 a go but I really like 48!


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[Dione2014]

Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

How is everyone feeling about game speed? I set it to 48 and the game felt a little more grounded. Gonna give 49 a go but I really like 48!


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I've been playing on 45, but i think 48 feels good too. I've been switching between the two. 45 is where i'm at now