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  • ThatMichiganFan
    Pro
    • Apr 2014
    • 801

    #61
    Re: NBA 2K17 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

    Eccentric, how are you feeling with the ball security/body-up sensitivity sliders? I love that they've been added but I can't seem to find a good balance.
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    • EccentricMeat
      MVP
      • Aug 2011
      • 3240

      #62
      Re: NBA 2K17 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

      Originally posted by ThatMichiganFan
      Eccentric, how are you feeling with the ball security/body-up sensitivity sliders? I love that they've been added but I can't seem to find a good balance.
      These are two of the most intriguing sliders in this years game, and I have a feeling that us slider gurus won't come to a consensus on these for a while.

      Personally I've left Ball Security at 0 since day 1, and here's my thinking on it: For the User, it makes us play smart on offense and stops us from just barreling into traffic with iso moves praying for a foul. It also gets rid of all of the "I tried to block/steal the ball and it wound up going through my defender's hand instead of reacting" complaints.

      Body-Up sensitivity is a little more interesting. I set it to 100 for a few games and had interesting results, and then set it to 0 for even more interesting results. I think somewhere close to 0 is where I will leave it this year, as that lets me leave On-Ball Defense high enough to remove the over-abundant ankle-break moments that you see with it set under 40-45.

      What are your thoughts on these two sliders?
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      • ThatMichiganFan
        Pro
        • Apr 2014
        • 801

        #63
        Re: NBA 2K17 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

        Originally posted by EccentricMeat
        These are two of the most intriguing sliders in this years game, and I have a feeling that us slider gurus won't come to a consensus on these for a while.



        Personally I've left Ball Security at 0 since day 1, and here's my thinking on it: For the User, it makes us play smart on offense and stops us from just barreling into traffic with iso moves praying for a foul. It also gets rid of all of the "I tried to block/steal the ball and it wound up going through my defender's hand instead of reacting" complaints.



        Body-Up sensitivity is a little more interesting. I set it to 100 for a few games and had interesting results, and then set it to 0 for even more interesting results. I think somewhere close to 0 is where I will leave it this year, as that lets me leave On-Ball Defense high enough to remove the over-abundant ankle-break moments that you see with it set under 40-45.



        What are your thoughts on these two sliders?


        Hmmmm, interesting thoughts. I was not sure which way I was going to lean at first, and I have tried a ton of combinations, but right now I have 60/60 ball security and 30/30 body-up sensitivity.

        Here's my thing, I do like that the ball is more tangible this year, but I felt that it was too easy to get knocked away, even using an elite ball handler. Too often I would just loose control on an easy play and lead to a cheap turnover. With it at 60, I feel the ball is still live and can be poked out with a well timed steal, but it isn't just a loose ball constantly. Also, I've seen several average to below average ball handlers still dribble off legs and stuff in the paint.

        I was going to have body-up sensitivity at 0, but when I did that, I looked at the replays and there was a TON of clipping during collisions. So I raised it to 30 and it eliminated almost all of the collision clipping.

        Still plenty of testing to do, curious to see what more testing reveals!
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        • Smirkin Dirk
          All Star
          • Oct 2008
          • 5179

          #64
          Re: NBA 2K17 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

          I think human body sensitivity below 50 is the way to go. How far down it goes is a matter of personal preference I think. At the moment Im leaving it at 0. As TMF above said there is more clipping but Ill take this if the PNR game is opened up.
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          • Dione2014
            Pro
            • Dec 2014
            • 720

            #65
            Re: NBA 2K17 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

            Originally posted by EccentricMeat
            These are two of the most intriguing sliders in this years game, and I have a feeling that us slider gurus won't come to a consensus on these for a while.

            Personally I've left Ball Security at 0 since day 1, and here's my thinking on it: For the User, it makes us play smart on offense and stops us from just barreling into traffic with iso moves praying for a foul. It also gets rid of all of the "I tried to block/steal the ball and it wound up going through my defender's hand instead of reacting" complaints.

            Body-Up sensitivity is a little more interesting. I set it to 100 for a few games and had interesting results, and then set it to 0 for even more interesting results. I think somewhere close to 0 is where I will leave it this year, as that lets me leave On-Ball Defense high enough to remove the over-abundant ankle-break moments that you see with it set under 40-45.

            What are your thoughts on these two sliders?
            If you leave the body up and on ball defense to 0 you get a pretty realistic representation of driving to the basket. No way Brandon Jennings was able to guard john wall without fouling. Everytime i got the slightest step on him i was able to get to the rim. I have some great examples of this with john wall taking Bayless to the cup (52 onball D IQ)

            This one is probably the best example i can show you. Notice how the cpu was very close to me but didn't warp into place.

            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/sDZEKqkWeDI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

            Clean drive here. He reached but it didn't matter. I've froze him in that same game and blew past him. Again his on ball d sucks.

            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/P2iJK47QOZw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

            Same here. Nice clean non warping drive

            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/J9BLWyuLJNs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

            Got him with the crossover and got right to the rim.

            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/9ThEXT5rpHs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

            These are the best highlights from that game. Most times the help rotated and forced some lower percentage shots.

            I wasn't breaking ankles except for once that game. I'm using shady mikes beta set until yours comes out. I think defensive consistency and awareness has something to do with the crazy amount of ankle breakers. He has his at 100. So i think that's why guys weren't stumbling all over the floor for 48 minutes.
            Last edited by Dione2014; 09-24-2016, 04:00 AM.

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            • EccentricMeat
              MVP
              • Aug 2011
              • 3240

              #66
              Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

              Originally posted by ThatMichiganFan
              Hmmmm, interesting thoughts. I was not sure which way I was going to lean at first, and I have tried a ton of combinations, but right now I have 60/60 ball security and 30/30 body-up sensitivity.

              Here's my thing, I do like that the ball is more tangible this year, but I felt that it was too easy to get knocked away, even using an elite ball handler. Too often I would just loose control on an easy play and lead to a cheap turnover. With it at 60, I feel the ball is still live and can be poked out with a well timed steal, but it isn't just a loose ball constantly. Also, I've seen several average to below average ball handlers still dribble off legs and stuff in the paint.

              I was going to have body-up sensitivity at 0, but when I did that, I looked at the replays and there was a TON of clipping during collisions. So I raised it to 30 and it eliminated almost all of the collision clipping.

              Still plenty of testing to do, curious to see what more testing reveals!


              Very good points. I have Body-Up sensitivity at 35 for now and the results are pretty good. Ball Security I'll definitely test at higher values as the ball is a little TOO live with it at 0.
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              • Imotepe
                Rookie
                • Sep 2016
                • 143

                #67
                Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

                You made me love 2K16 with your sliders, can't wait to try 2K17's one !


                I played so many games on All-star before trying any sliders out there, there's so many great things this year on [original sliders] the game is way smooth & realistic but man I've never been that out rebound in my life on the offense event & too many putbacks and and-one...

                Keep it up !

                ps: how can you rate a topic ?

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                • EccentricMeat
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 3240

                  #68
                  Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

                  Originally posted by Imotepe
                  You made me love 2K16 with your sliders, can't wait to try 2K17's one !





                  I played so many games on All-star before trying any sliders out there, there's so many great things this year on [original sliders] the game is way smooth & realistic but man I've never been that out rebound in my life on the offense event & too many putbacks and and-one...



                  Keep it up !



                  ps: how can you rate a topic ?


                  Thanks man, glad to hear it!

                  To rate a thread there should be an option near the top right of the page (doesn't work within the Tapatalk app). Apparently someone already gave my thread a 1-star rating
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                  • extremeskins04
                    That's top class!
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 3868

                    #69
                    Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

                    Sorry if this was already asked, but are we supposed to use your 2K16 sliders or you're still testing new ones for 2K17?

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                    • EccentricMeat
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 3240

                      #70
                      Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

                      Originally posted by extremeskins04
                      Sorry if this was already asked, but are we supposed to use your 2K16 sliders or you're still testing new ones for 2K17?


                      Still testing new ones. I wouldn't recommend using my old ones.
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                      • ThatMichiganFan
                        Pro
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 801

                        #71
                        Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

                        Originally posted by EccentricMeat
                        Thanks man, glad to hear it!

                        To rate a thread there should be an option near the top right of the page (doesn't work within the Tapatalk app). Apparently someone already gave my thread a 1-star rating


                        That was me. I'm just jealous. [emoji23]
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                        • EccentricMeat
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 3240

                          #72
                          Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

                          Originally posted by ThatMichiganFan
                          That was me. I'm just jealous. [emoji23]
                          Haha it happens at the beginning of every year, I always get a 1-star before I even post my sliders
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                          • EccentricMeat
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 3240

                            #73
                            Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

                            Just wanted to post something to see your guys' thoughts:

                            It seems like the CPU has a +3 advantage when it comes to speed. By giving the USER sliders a +3 advantage in Acceleration, Speed, and Lateral Quickness, it seems to have fixed the constant warping and ridiculous recovery speed of the CPU on defense. I also think I've settled on Body-Up Sensitivity being set to 0 for both User and CPU.

                            These settings have made the game much more even and fluid IMO. What do you guys think?


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                            • Thetruth9012
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 1287

                              #74
                              Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

                              Originally posted by EccentricMeat
                              Just wanted to post something to see your guys' thoughts:

                              It seems like the CPU has a +3 advantage when it comes to speed. By giving the USER sliders a +3 advantage in Acceleration, Speed, and Lateral Quickness, it seems to have fixed the constant warping and ridiculous recovery speed of the CPU on defense. I also think I've settled on Body-Up Sensitivity being set to 0 for both User and CPU.

                              These settings have made the game much more even and fluid IMO. What do you guys think?


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                              Yes did this too + on ball defense 35.

                              Game is open but help defense needs work.

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                              2k18 fixes

                              Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

                              Late contest on laups matter too much.

                              Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

                              Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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                              • Thetruth9012
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2013
                                • 1287

                                #75
                                Re: NBA 2K17 &quot;The Eccentric Edition&quot; - Realistic Slider Set

                                Originally posted by EccentricMeat
                                Just wanted to post something to see your guys' thoughts:

                                It seems like the CPU has a +3 advantage when it comes to speed. By giving the USER sliders a +3 advantage in Acceleration, Speed, and Lateral Quickness, it seems to have fixed the constant warping and ridiculous recovery speed of the CPU on defense. I also think I've settled on Body-Up Sensitivity being set to 0 for both User and CPU.

                                These settings have made the game much more even and fluid IMO. What do you guys think?


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                                Did you see any difference in help defense 0 and 100 ? also in coach settings they add help defense so maybe this help.

                                Without the patch defense is broken[emoji53].



                                Wysłane z mojego LG-H525n przy użyciu Tapatalka
                                2k18 fixes

                                Bigs can cover to much ground on defense(they are too fast)

                                Late contest on laups matter too much.

                                Random blocks doing pumpfakes.

                                Leaning shots for guys who have catch and shoot badge should be removed.

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