Improved Player Movement Sliders

[Barncore]

Re: Improved Player Movement Sliders

Here's the sliders i currently have uploaded to the barncore33 PSN.
Please please please make suggestions if you think of them!

All-Star used as the base.
Also prob gonna boost the gamespeed +2 from 48 to 50 based on what youALREADYknow said.

CPU vs. User Sliders (CPU listed first). Only 1 listed if both are the same.

Offense
Inside Shot Success - 47/48
Close Shot Success - 47/48
Mid-Range Shot Success - 48/49
3PT Success - 49/50
Layup Success - 48/49
Dunk in Traffic Frequency - 53
Dunk in Traffic Success - 50
Pass Accuracy - 55/45
Alley-Oop Success - 50
Contact Shot Success - 45
Ball Security - 55
Body-Up Sensitivity - 20
Pass Speed - 61

Defense
Driving Contact Shot Frequency - 64
Inside Contact Shot Frequency - 64
Layup Defense Strength (Takeoff) - 38
Layup Defense Strength (Release) - 50
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Gather) - 40
Jump Shot Defense Strength (Release) - 45
Help Defense Strength - 55
Steal Success - 47

Attributes
Acceleration - 65
Vertical – 50
Strength – 50
Stamina – 50
Speed – 57
Durability - 50
Hustle – 60
Ball Handling – 50
Hands – 48
Dunking Ability - 50
On-Ball Defense – 47
Stealing – 50
Blocking – 50
Offensive Awareness - 50
Defensive Awareness – 50/60
Offensive Rebounding - 50
Defensive Rebounding – 50
Offensive Consistency - 50
Defensive Consistency - 50
Fatigue Rate – 50
Lateral Quickness - 50

Tendencies
Take Inside Shots - 45
Take Close Shots - 40
Take Mid-Range Shots - 40
Take 3PT Shots - 100
Post Shots - 50
Attack the Basket - 55
Look for Post Players - 50
Throw Alley-Oops - 50
Attempt Dunks - 50
Attempt Putbacks - 55
Play Passing Lanes - 47
Go for On-Ball Steals - 40
Contest Shots - 55
Backdoor Cuts - 50

Fouls
Over the Back Foul Frequency - 50
Charging Foul Frequency - 100
Blocking Foul Frequency - 60
Reaching Foul Frequency - 60
Shooting Foul Frequency - 87
Loose Ball Foul Frequency - 50

Movement
Speed with Ball (Max rating) - 75/77
Speed with Ball (Min rating) - 50
Acceleration with Ball (Max rating) - 75/77
Acceleration with Ball (Min rating) - 50
Speed without Ball (Max rating) - 75
Speed without Ball (Min rating) - 45
Acceleration without Ball (Max rating) - 75
Acceleration without Ball (Min rating) - 45


Please, pick these sliders apart!

[RetroDee4Three]

Re: Improved Player Movement Sliders

Dee, what's your thoughts on this post by youALREADYknow?

Have you found the game speed to be different post-patch?

Do you agree with the 2nd bolded point too? YouALREADYknow usually knows his $hit

I've played many games post patch, and I still prefer game speed at 48. In fact, my games are flowing the same as they were before the patch. I am keeping my movement sliders the same, as the game still feels just as good with them after the patch as before.

By the way, thanks for uploading a variation of it on PS4, its appreciated. My sliders have hundreds of downloads on PC, but obviously the PS4 crowd is bigger, and it's easier for them to just download instead of typing in the sliders individually. I will keep playing, and if I see any adjustments that need to be made, I'll make them. Also, keep the feedback coming!

[Barncore]

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I played some games with the sliders above + CelticLG's awesome Attention to detail v1.0 roster.

12 min qtrs.

In this one i was Suns:


Suns player stats:
D.Booker: 34 pts, 5 rebs, 3 asts, 2 stls, 2blks, 2 TO's, 11-23 FG, 8-14 3pt, 4-4 FT, 33 mins.
D.Ayton: 17 pts, 12 rebs, 4 asts, 3 blks, 2 TO's, 8-16 FG, 33 mins.
T.Warren: 18 pts, 4 rebs, 1 ast, 8-11 FG.
R.Anderson: 10 pts, 10 rebs, 5 asts, 3 blks, 4 TO's, 2-3 threes, 32 mins.
I.Canaan: 11 pts, 6 asts, 2 TO's, 3-7 FG, 14 mins.
T.Ariza: 7 pts, 4 rebs, 3 asts, 1 stl, 1 blk, 1-4 3pt, 30 mins.
J.Jackson: 10 pts, 2 reb, 2 asts, 1 stl, 4-10 FG, 17 mins.
J.Crawford: 7 pts, 3 asts, 2 stls, 3-11 FG, 31 mins.

Pacers player stats:
V.Oladipo: 20 pts, 5 rebs, 9 asts, 1 stl, 8-20 FG, 3-8 3pt, 29 mins.
M.Turner: 20 pts, 14 rebs, 1 ast, 2 stls, 1 blk, 8-15 FG, 1 three, 32 mins.
T-Young: 20 pts, 12 rebs, 3 asts, 1 stl, 9-12 FG, 35 mins.
D.Collison: 19 pts, 3 rebs, 5 asts, 2 stls, 3 TO's, 7-12 FG, 3-4 3pt, 35 mins.
D.Sabonis: 13 pts, 7 rebs, 2 asts, 2 stls, 5-10 FG, 17 mins.
T.Evans: 11 pts, 5 asts, 1 stl, 5-14 FG, 1-5 3pt, 21 mins.

And in this one i was the Bucks. I was doing great and then Utah had a 41-24 4th quarter lol. Lost focus at the end. Definitely a tale of two halves.


Bucks player stats:
G.Antetokounmpo: 35 pts, 8 rebs, 6 asts, 2 stls, 2 blks, 2 TO's, 13-22 FG, 9-10 FT,33 mins.
J. Henson (i started him over Lopez): 16 pts, 12 rebs, 4 asts, 2 stls, 2 blks, 8-9 FG, 29 mins.
K.Middleton: 15 pts, 4 rebs, 2 asts, 5-15 FG, 3-6 3pt, 34 mins.
M.Brogdon: 10 pts, 3 rebs, 3 asts, 1 stl, 4-9 FG, 2-3 3pt, 33 mins.
B.Lopez: 10 pts, 5 rebs, 2 asts, 2 stls, 2 blks, 5-13 FG, 24 mins.
E.Ilyasova: 10 pts, 5 rebs, 3-6 FG, 17 mins.
E.Bledsoe: 5 pts, 7 asts, 2 TO's, 2-7 FG, 36 mins.

Jazz player stats:
D.Mitchell: 32 pts, 2 rebs, 3 asts, 2 stls, 2 TO's, 11-22 FG, 2-6 3pt, 8-9 FT, 34 mins.
D.Favors: 14 pts, 15 rebs, 5 asts, 2 blks, 7-13 FG, 32 mins.
R****bio: 19 pts, 5 asts, 1 stl, 8-16 FG, 3-7 3pt, 32 mins.
R.Gobert: 10 pts, 19 rebs, 3 asts, 2 stls, 1 blk, 5-9 FG, 34 mins.
J.Ingles: 11 pts, 2 rebs, 3 asts, 5-15 FG.
A.Burks: 12 pts, 4 rebs, 3 asts, 1 stl, 5-11 FG, 17 mins.

[Barncore]

Re: Improved Player Movement Sliders

Something feels different to me post patch but i can't put my finger on what it is. It's like things feel a little tighter or something. Dunno

[RetroDee4Three]

Re: Improved Player Movement Sliders

Something feels different to me post patch but i can't put my finger on what it is. It's like things feel a little tighter or something. Dunno

I have to be honest, I'm not feeling anything different really....

If you figure it out, let me know.

[koebsual]

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Hey, Love what you have done so far but I'm struggling with my camera? What are your camera settings? I like your video's camera angle?

[RetroDee4Three]

Re: Improved Player Movement Sliders

Hey, Love what you have done so far but I'm struggling with my camera? What are your camera settings? I like your video's camera angle?

Thank you! It's broadcast generic, Height 8, Zoom 1, Key Zoom Off. I use it every game, I love it.

[Barncore]

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Thank you! It's broadcast generic, Height 8, Zoom 1, Key Zoom Off. I use it every game, I love it.

How the hell do you win games on Hall of fame on broadcast?

I can't see angles properly on broadcast camera

[RetroDee4Three]

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How the hell do you win games on Hall of fame on broadcast?

I can't see angles properly on broadcast camera

Ha. I've always been on broadcast. And I actually see angles better using it (Distance between myself and defenders, distance between myself and the baseline, distance between myself and the basket, etc).

We have always viewed the NBA from a broadcast view, it's how most of all our NBA memories are stored. So for me, It's how I always wanted to play the games. But it's a matter of preference really, I don't knock anybody who uses 2K view, I just FAR prefer broadcast view. I also use camera relative stick controls, while a lot of people live by absolute, just a matter of preference.

[koebsual]

Re: Improved Player Movement Sliders

Do either of you guys have your controller settings posted anywhere? I'd Love to see those too. As well as Pass Target dir/distance etc.. Mine currently are direction-65 distance-34 openness-1 ? No idea why either. If you get time of course. Thanks again Dee/Barn

[jmarcguy]

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I have trouble with breakaway dunks. The defense always catches up and I get bogged down. The "slide" ahead of me. Any ideas?

[RetroDee4Three]

Re: Improved Player Movement Sliders

I have trouble with breakaway dunks. The defense always catches up and I get bogged down. The "slide" ahead of me. Any ideas?

I havn't experienced that issue with these sliders, part of the purpose of them is to fix that pace and flow that is flawed out of the box.

But, keep in mind. In real life players speed with the ball IS slower than players speed without the ball, it's the whole reason why chasedown blocks exist in the first place (the other reason is sometimes the ball handler slows down THINKING he will get an easy bucket, only to be surprised.

In regards to slider in front, that's the sucking in that sometimes happens that I mentioned in the first post. It seems that lowering the body up sensitivity decreases the amount of times that it happens, but we can't seem to get rid of it completely. You could turn speed with ball up slightly, and speed without Ball down, but I like the ratios that I have currently.

Certainly make tweaks as necessary.

[jmarcguy]

Re: Improved Player Movement Sliders

Definitely an improvement with these sliders.

[BigOrangeVol4Life]

Re: Improved Player Movement Sliders

I played some games with the sliders above + CelticLG's awesome Attention to detail v1.0 roster.

12 min qtrs.

In this one i was Suns:


Suns player stats:
D.Booker: 34 pts, 5 rebs, 3 asts, 2 stls, 2blks, 2 TO's, 11-23 FG, 8-14 3pt, 4-4 FT, 33 mins.
D.Ayton: 17 pts, 12 rebs, 4 asts, 3 blks, 2 TO's, 8-16 FG, 33 mins.
T.Warren: 18 pts, 4 rebs, 1 ast, 8-11 FG.
R.Anderson: 10 pts, 10 rebs, 5 asts, 3 blks, 4 TO's, 2-3 threes, 32 mins.
I.Canaan: 11 pts, 6 asts, 2 TO's, 3-7 FG, 14 mins.
T.Ariza: 7 pts, 4 rebs, 3 asts, 1 stl, 1 blk, 1-4 3pt, 30 mins.
J.Jackson: 10 pts, 2 reb, 2 asts, 1 stl, 4-10 FG, 17 mins.
J.Crawford: 7 pts, 3 asts, 2 stls, 3-11 FG, 31 mins.

Pacers player stats:
V.Oladipo: 20 pts, 5 rebs, 9 asts, 1 stl, 8-20 FG, 3-8 3pt, 29 mins.
M.Turner: 20 pts, 14 rebs, 1 ast, 2 stls, 1 blk, 8-15 FG, 1 three, 32 mins.
T-Young: 20 pts, 12 rebs, 3 asts, 1 stl, 9-12 FG, 35 mins.
D.Collison: 19 pts, 3 rebs, 5 asts, 2 stls, 3 TO's, 7-12 FG, 3-4 3pt, 35 mins.
D.Sabonis: 13 pts, 7 rebs, 2 asts, 2 stls, 5-10 FG, 17 mins.
T.Evans: 11 pts, 5 asts, 1 stl, 5-14 FG, 1-5 3pt, 21 mins.

And in this one i was the Bucks. I was doing great and then Utah had a 41-24 4th quarter lol. Lost focus at the end. Definitely a tale of two halves.


Bucks player stats:
G.Antetokounmpo: 35 pts, 8 rebs, 6 asts, 2 stls, 2 blks, 2 TO's, 13-22 FG, 9-10 FT,33 mins.
J. Henson (i started him over Lopez): 16 pts, 12 rebs, 4 asts, 2 stls, 2 blks, 8-9 FG, 29 mins.
K.Middleton: 15 pts, 4 rebs, 2 asts, 5-15 FG, 3-6 3pt, 34 mins.
M.Brogdon: 10 pts, 3 rebs, 3 asts, 1 stl, 4-9 FG, 2-3 3pt, 33 mins.
B.Lopez: 10 pts, 5 rebs, 2 asts, 2 stls, 2 blks, 5-13 FG, 24 mins.
E.Ilyasova: 10 pts, 5 rebs, 3-6 FG, 17 mins.
E.Bledsoe: 5 pts, 7 asts, 2 TO's, 2-7 FG, 36 mins.

Jazz player stats:
D.Mitchell: 32 pts, 2 rebs, 3 asts, 2 stls, 2 TO's, 11-22 FG, 2-6 3pt, 8-9 FT, 34 mins.
D.Favors: 14 pts, 15 rebs, 5 asts, 2 blks, 7-13 FG, 32 mins.
R****bio: 19 pts, 5 asts, 1 stl, 8-16 FG, 3-7 3pt, 32 mins.
R.Gobert: 10 pts, 19 rebs, 3 asts, 2 stls, 1 blk, 5-9 FG, 34 mins.
J.Ingles: 11 pts, 2 rebs, 3 asts, 5-15 FG.
A.Burks: 12 pts, 4 rebs, 3 asts, 1 stl, 5-11 FG, 17 mins.

The stats look great in those games. The total number of shot attempts is a bit high though. Is there a slider or setting that could be slightly tweaked that would lower the attempts more around 85 to 90 per game which is close to the real life league average yet still be able to keep the quarters at 12 minutes each?

[RetroDee4Three]

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The stats look great in those games. The total number of shot attempts is a bit high though. Is there a slider or setting that could be slightly tweaked that would lower the attempts more around 85 to 90 per game which is close to the real life league average yet still be able to keep the quarters at 12 minutes each?

As a user, you can control a lot of that with the pace that you play with. A lot of users tend to gun, or play fast, which raises the shot attempts. Poor defense also forces shots up faster. A lot of the high shot attempt games are caused by the user play style.

However, if individual player shot tendencies are lowered, that may impact the number of shots that go up. But again, a lot of it is play style.

For example, ThaLiveKing runs a lot of plays, he runs offense very similar to how teams run it in real life. When you look at the scores/shot attempts in his games, they are realistic. It's mainly because he isn't taking shots within the first 10-12 seconds of the shot clock, and hes playing sound defense (not allowing quick shot attempts by the CPU).