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  • duce
    a goat
    • Dec 2017
    • 534

    #76
    Re: 2K20 MyLeague Community Slider Set (User v User and User v CPU)

    Originally posted by archanax
    Just watched your last streaming.

    - driving run still too horrible... klay from warriors who drives successfully.
    - too many FGA around 100 instead of 80-90
    - pace too fast from cpu, maximum 1-2 passes and shoot, either 3pts either drives
    - too many point in the paint

    After that, i'm not used to this cam, i play in broadcast so maybe i don't see all the things
    Interestingly enough I felt like they didn't try to score enough inside. Really wasn't enough fouls for me. Thought it was a good score. Really interested in these impressions though much appreciated

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    • pawelkus
      Just started!
      • Oct 2019
      • 3

      #77
      Re: 2K20 MyLeague Community Slider Set (User v User and User v CPU)

      For PC Users: I uploaded latest testing slider set (see above) as OSCS 5. Will try to update it from now on too.

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      • Azamien
        MVP
        • Mar 2005
        • 1475

        #78
        Re: 2K20 MyLeague Community Slider Set (User v User and User v CPU)

        Forgive me if this is mentioned somewhere and I missed it, but are these sliders designed for user timing or real percentage? Or does it not matter?
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        • duce
          a goat
          • Dec 2017
          • 534

          #79
          Re: 2K20 MyLeague Community Slider Set (User v User and User v CPU)

          Originally posted by Azamien
          Forgive me if this is mentioned somewhere and I missed it, but are these sliders designed for user timing or real percentage? Or does it not matter?
          Designed for user timing, but once I start my expansion league, I'll be interested in real FG%.

          What do you play on?

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          • Azamien
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            • Mar 2005
            • 1475

            #80
            Re: 2K20 MyLeague Community Slider Set (User v User and User v CPU)

            Originally posted by duce
            Designed for user timing, but once I start my expansion league, I'll be interested in real FG%.

            What do you play on?

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            I'm going back and forth at the moment. Until this year I've been a real FG% guy, but I don't fully trust it (it feels like timing still has something to do with success even though it's not supposed to.) I've been giving user timing a try the last few days and it's more fun, but also more frustrating when you blow an open look.

            I like the way this slider set plays so I'll use whichever it's designed for.
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            • duce
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              • Dec 2017
              • 534

              #81
              Re: 2K20 MyLeague Community Slider Set (User v User and User v CPU)

              Originally posted by Azamien
              I'm going back and forth at the moment. Until this year I've been a real FG% guy, but I don't fully trust it (it feels like timing still has something to do with success even though it's not supposed to.) I've been giving user timing a try the last few days and it's more fun, but also more frustrating when you blow an open look.

              I like the way this slider set plays so I'll use whichever it's designed for.
              I like the concept of real FG% closing the skill gap a bit for user v user games, since there's alot of other aspects to determine a basketball game. I stick with user timing for the Kings though since I'm so used to them, especially v CPU

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              • duce
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                • Dec 2017
                • 534

                #82
                Re: 2K20 MyLeague Community Slider Set (User v User and User v CPU)

                Currently on Set 6 (oscs 6 on PSN). Tough.
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                • Chrome_Claymore
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                  • Jun 2016
                  • 88

                  #83
                  Re: 2K20 MyLeague Community Slider Set (User v User and User v CPU)

                  Originally posted by duce
                  Currently on Set 6 (oscs 6 on PSN). Tough.

                  Could you post them here too? I'm a PC user so yeah

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                  • duce
                    a goat
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 534

                    #84
                    Re: 2K20 MyLeague Community Slider Set (User v User and User v CPU)

                    Originally posted by Chrome_Claymore
                    Could you post them here too? I'm a PC user so yeah
                    will do. just scrolled thru on the stream but I'll post after this game.
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                    • duce
                      a goat
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 534

                      #85
                      Re: 2K20 MyLeague Community Slider Set (User v User and User v CPU)

                      <iframe src="https://player.twitch.tv/?channel=superx2x" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen="true" scrolling="no" height="378" width="620"></iframe>

                      Good: Movement, shooting %'s, dribbling, passing, turnovers, defense, not many exploits it seems like.

                      In Progress: Just getting tendencies and FTAs/Shooting Fouls right. Looking at Defensive Consistency and CPU 3PT Tendencies. Hit me up on PSN/here for a game.

                      Any exploits on this set, lemme know. If not, starting up a league.

                      CPU
                      Offense
                      Inside Shot Success: 55
                      Close Shot Success: 55
                      Mid-Range Success: 55
                      3PT Success: 55
                      Layup Success: 55
                      Dunk In Traffic Frequency: 40
                      Dunk In Traffic Success: 45
                      Pass Accuracy: 30
                      Alley-Oop Success: 55
                      Contact Shot Success: 10
                      Ball Security: 30
                      Body-up Sensitivity: 95
                      Pass Speed: 45

                      Defense
                      Driving Contact Shot Frequency: 75
                      Inside Contact Shot Frequency: 100
                      Layup Defense Strength (Takeoff): 50
                      Layup Defense Strength (Release): 65
                      Jump Shot Defense Strength (Gather): 15
                      Jump Shot Defense Strength (Release): 65
                      Help Defense Strength: 95
                      Steal Success: 60

                      Attributes
                      Acceleration: 55
                      Vertical: 45
                      Strength: 50
                      Stamina: 50
                      Speed: 65
                      Durability: 45
                      Hustle: 90
                      Ball Handling: 45
                      Hands: 75
                      Dunking Ability: 45
                      On-Ball Defense: 15
                      Stealing: 45
                      Blocking: 40
                      Offensive Awareness: 90
                      Defensive Awareness: 95
                      Offensive Rebounding: 30
                      Defensive Rebounding: 35
                      Offensive Consistency: 55
                      Defensive Consistency: 20
                      Fatigue Rate: 50
                      Lateral Quickness: 80

                      Tendencies
                      Take Inside Shots: 25
                      Take Close Shots: 5
                      Take Mid-Range Shots: 20
                      Take 3PT Shots: 55
                      Post Shots: 25
                      Attack The Basket: 40
                      Look for Post Players: 35
                      Throw Alley-Oops: 50
                      Attempt Dunks: 60
                      Attempt Putbacks: 50
                      Play Passing Lanes: 20
                      Go for On-Ball Steals: 85
                      Contest Shots: 85
                      Backdoor Cuts: 75

                      Fouls
                      Over The Back Foul: 95
                      Charging Foul: 95
                      Blocking Foul: 95
                      Reaching Foul: 85
                      Shooting Foul: 95
                      Loose Ball Foul: 95
                      Illegal Screen Frequency: 95

                      Movement
                      Speed with Ball (Max Rating): 70
                      Speed with Ball (Min Rating): 25
                      Acceleration with Ball (Max Rating): 80
                      Acceleration with Ball (Min Rating): 25
                      Speed without Ball (Max Rating): 70
                      Speed without Ball (Min Rating): 25
                      Acceleration without Ball (Max Rating): 85
                      Acceleration without Ball (Min Rating): 40


                      USER
                      Offense
                      Free Throw Difficulty: 75
                      Inside Shot Success: 45
                      Close Shot Success: 45
                      Mid-Range Success: 45
                      3PT Success: 45
                      Layup Success: 45
                      Dunk In Traffic Frequency: 40
                      Dunk In Traffic Success: 40
                      Pass Accuracy: 30
                      Alley-Oop Success: 50
                      Contact Shot Success: 10
                      Ball Security: 30
                      Body-up Sensitivity: 95
                      Pass Speed: 45

                      Defense
                      Driving Contact Shot Frequency: 75
                      Inside Contact Shot Frequency: 100
                      Layup Defense Strength (Takeoff): 60
                      Layup Defense Strength (Release): 75
                      Jump Shot Defense Strength (Gather): 15
                      Jump Shot Defense Strength (Release): 85
                      Help Defense Strength: 90
                      Steal Success: 25

                      Attributes
                      Acceleration: 45
                      Vertical: 45
                      Strength: 45
                      Stamina: 50
                      Speed: 65
                      Durability: 45
                      Hustle: 85
                      Ball Handling: 40
                      Hands: 45
                      Dunking Ability: 40
                      On-Ball Defense: 15
                      Stealing: 30
                      Blocking: 35
                      Offensive Awareness: 50
                      Defensive Awareness: 80
                      Offensive Rebounding: 30
                      Defensive Rebounding: 35
                      Offensive Consistency: 45
                      Defensive Consistency: 20
                      Fatigue Rate: 50
                      Lateral Quickness: 80

                      Tendencies
                      Take Inside Shots: 50
                      Take Close Shots: 50
                      Take Mid-Range Shots: 40
                      Take 3PT Shots: 50
                      Post Shots: 50
                      Attack The Basket: 50
                      Look for Post Players: 50
                      Throw Alley-Oops: 50
                      Attempt Dunks: 45
                      Attempt Putbacks: 50
                      Play Passing Lanes: 20
                      Go for On-Ball Steals: 90
                      Contest Shots: 95
                      Backdoor Cuts: 70

                      Fouls
                      Over The Back Foul: 95
                      Charging Foul: 95
                      Blocking Foul: 95
                      Reaching Foul: 90
                      Shooting Foul: 95
                      Loose Ball Foul: 95
                      Illegal Screen Frequency: 95

                      Movement
                      Speed with Ball (Max Rating): 70
                      Speed with Ball (Min Rating): 15
                      Acceleration with Ball (Max Rating): 80
                      Acceleration with Ball (Min Rating): 15
                      Speed without Ball (Max Rating): 70
                      Speed without Ball (Min Rating): 25
                      Acceleration without Ball (Max Rating): 85
                      Acceleration without Ball (Min Rating): 40
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                      • archanax
                        Pro
                        • Jan 2005
                        • 533

                        #86
                        Re: 2K20 MyLeague Community Slider Set (User v User and User v CPU)

                        plays really nice, nice pace of the game, nice stats but small issues for me but I don't think you will be able to resolve all of them because they are roster dependant.

                        - superstar like harden, durant, irving scored almost all the time. it's like in one quarter, they can have easily between 10 and 15 points (scored in around 6min over 12min) which means at the end around 40-60 points... I know that harden has an average of 36 points per game but here, it's a bit too much
                        - I find that gamespeed is still a bit too high, maybe gamespeed at 45-48 instead of 50, same goes for the ball speed for the passes.
                        - all the players on the floor move to much. It's outstanding with your sliders that you succeeded to decrease the pace of the game and make cpu shoot only close to the buzzer but during the 24sec, most of the time, it's like the musical chairs on the floor and everybody moves instead of sometimes, staying in their position and waiting to get the ball. Or even, finding an open place to shoot. Here, they prefer to dribble, make a stepback and shoot.
                        - on sidelines, when we pass to a sideline player, there is an issue where the receiver will catch the ball but outside the floor resulting in a turnover.

                        Except those things, it's great !!! thank you

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                        • duce
                          a goat
                          • Dec 2017
                          • 534

                          #87
                          Re: 2K20 MyLeague Community Slider Set (User v User and User v CPU)

                          Originally posted by archanax
                          plays really nice, nice pace of the game, nice stats but small issues for me but I don't think you will be able to resolve all of them because they are roster dependant.

                          - superstar like harden, durant, irving scored almost all the time. it's like in one quarter, they can have easily between 10 and 15 points (scored in around 6min over 12min) which means at the end around 40-60 points... I know that harden has an average of 36 points per game but here, it's a bit too much
                          - I find that gamespeed is still a bit too high, maybe gamespeed at 45-48 instead of 50, same goes for the ball speed for the passes.
                          - all the players on the floor move to much. It's outstanding with your sliders that you succeeded to decrease the pace of the game and make cpu shoot only close to the buzzer but during the 24sec, most of the time, it's like the musical chairs on the floor and everybody moves instead of sometimes, staying in their position and waiting to get the ball. Or even, finding an open place to shoot. Here, they prefer to dribble, make a stepback and shoot.
                          - on sidelines, when we pass to a sideline player, there is an issue where the receiver will catch the ball but outside the floor resulting in a turnover.

                          Except those things, it's great !!! thank you
                          Thanks arch!

                          I wanted to create gravity around star players so they force you to deny off-ball (I tend to do this as user), double team on drives, set specific matchups, etc. Basically forcing you to choose between letting them beat you (which some can i.e harden/Durant) or leaving the role players open. The only unstoppable person I ran into so far is Giannis, but it's real, especially if you trust a single defender on him. Dame put 50 on us on one of the previous sets. Once you let a star start to "feel it" they become super tough to stop.

                          Game speed I understand. I'm down for it to be changed but I wanted to start from default. If you didn't want to change game speed tho, this could also be solved by lowering the minimum speed/acceleration and pass speed by 5-10. I've seen it make significant difference. If it's too much 'burst", lowering Hustle also makes a big difference to pace. I would actually start there for user/CPU. I use broadcast view to get a sense of speed and thought it was pretty close

                          For players moving too much, I'm glad you brought it up. I've been looking at backdoor cuts (currently @ 70) as a way to make sure players are diving to the basket as targets for players driving to the basket. However all the movement may be messing up timing for plays and spacing. I'll def test lowering that value.

                          As for the turnover, it's a case by case basis honestly. Hopefully lowering the amount of backdoor cut movement will help players keep their footing on the sideline. If you're seeing it multiple times per quarter it could be because of the pass speed, pass Accuracy, or hands. I haven't seen it much tho.

                          Can you tell me a bit about your playstyle? Mostly on-ball/off-ball? Auto plays or custom playbook? Set all defensive settings per player or a few? Usual team?



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                          • archanax
                            Pro
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 533

                            #88
                            Re: 2K20 MyLeague Community Slider Set (User v User and User v CPU)

                            well I think I'm playing on a slow but disruptive pace.

                            I like to start slowly, to move the ball to my teamates on the 3pt line, sometime to the post. Like to keep my position in order to see what the auto play proposes (no custom playbook).
                            Sometimes, it gives open shot opportunities and sometimes, it's just a big mess.
                            On some runs, I like to play only with my PG, to start dribbling, making 1-2 passes and again to the PG that will drive to the rim and force the foul.

                            In fact, I have a playstyle like golden state and I like to play like them.

                            about the defensive setting, I let everything by default, no change.

                            also did a test that is quite curious, if you have the opportunity, please try shadymikegaming sliders (he didn't post them yet on OP but I think he will do it next month https://forums.nba-live.com/viewtopi...f=254&t=108070)

                            the offensive awarness is totally at the opposite than yours and even with that, cpu plays smartly. Maybe that could help against the superstar players

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                            • duce
                              a goat
                              • Dec 2017
                              • 534

                              #89
                              Re: 2K20 MyLeague Community Slider Set (User v User and User v CPU)

                              Originally posted by archanax
                              well I think I'm playing on a slow but disruptive pace.

                              I like to start slowly, to move the ball to my teamates on the 3pt line, sometime to the post. Like to keep my position in order to see what the auto play proposes (no custom playbook).
                              Sometimes, it gives open shot opportunities and sometimes, it's just a big mess.
                              On some runs, I like to play only with my PG, to start dribbling, making 1-2 passes and again to the PG that will drive to the rim and force the foul.

                              In fact, I have a playstyle like golden state and I like to play like them.

                              about the defensive setting, I let everything by default, no change.

                              also did a test that is quite curious, if you have the opportunity, please try shadymikegaming sliders (he didn't post them yet on OP but I think he will do it next month https://forums.nba-live.com/viewtopi...f=254&t=108070)

                              the offensive awarness is totally at the opposite than yours and even with that, cpu plays smartly. Maybe that could help against the superstar players
                              Gotcha. I def look at shadymike's sliders. His explanations on Youtube have helped alot. Gotta give the current set a try.
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                              • beewee
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                                • Jan 2017
                                • 44

                                #90
                                Re: 2K20 MyLeague Community Slider Set (User v User and User v CPU)

                                Hey Duce quick question I’m playing using these sliders. On the 2k veiw, is that fine or should these slides be used on another veiw, only problem I’m having now is the frantic pace sometimes of the point guards coming up and jacking up threes....and the game speed and pace is a lil frantic at times but in today’s nba the games are faster and the pace is inconsistent at times so I’m really fine with that, but any way I can help get these close to authentic as possible I’ll be willing

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