NBA 2K24 "The Eccentric Edition" - Realistic Slider Set

[EccentricMeat]

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2k removed a few of the movement sliders. What are your thoughts on removing the sliders?

They got movement pretty much spot on this year, so thankfully they weren’t needed. Plus the Acceleration movement slider already controls “Acceleration with Ball” so that slider was redundant. Not worried [emoji1303]

[PhlliesPhan6]

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Can you explain how ACE Subs work? Does it override the minutes that you set on our lineup screen?

[aholbert32]

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Can you explain how ACE Subs work? Does it override the minutes that you set on our lineup screen?

It does but its not as bad as it sounds. The primary benefit is that it ensures that you always have a scoring option on the floor. It also fixes several of the issues I've had with 2k games for nearly a decade:

- No matter what sub method (other than the rotation timelines), there would be group subs of 4 or 5 (even if I regularly called time outs). ACe eliminates that. The most I've seen is 3.

- Rotation timelines are solid but they dont account for whats happening on the court. A player could be 0-11 with 8 turnovers and he will still play all of the minutes you assigned him.

- With ACE, you can override the decisions the CPU makes. Dont like that they put in you a certain player, sub him out and the changes will stick.

[PhlliesPhan6]

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It does but its not as bad as it sounds. The primary benefit is that it ensures that you always have a scoring option on the floor. It also fixes several of the issues I've had with 2k games for nearly a decade:

- No matter what sub method (other than the rotation timelines), there would be group subs of 4 or 5 (even if I regularly called time outs). ACe eliminates that. The most I've seen is 3.

- Rotation timelines are solid but they dont account for whats happening on the court. A player could be 0-11 with 8 turnovers and he will still play all of the minutes you assigned him.

- With ACE, you can override the decisions the CPU makes. Dont like that they put in you a certain player, sub him out and the changes will stick.

Will it sub in guys that are assigned no minutes? (Besides garbage time)

[studdi]

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Will it sub in guys that are assigned no minutes? (Besides garbage time)

Yes thats the problem i have at the moment. I think it would be cooler if it just subs the players you choose to play...

I tried it with chicago gave ball 0 minutes and gave the minutes to Dosunmu and Carter. Ball came then from the bench.

I also havent seen that there is another closing lineup then starting lineup, and when i changed in end game situation next timeout the starter came back...

[sirjam]

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If you put shot timing on 0 it automatically goes to real fg %, my theory is at 100 you get none of the extra 2k controlling shot percentages things Wang talked about. Shot contest is the issue. Any defender in the area that jumps late get at least a 30 percent which is not nba realistic.

[Shadow Cloud]

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Any defender in the area that jumps late get at least a 30 percent which is not nba realistic.

I swear the A.I. isn't affected by this if you jump late. They seem to be better at draining contested shots.

[sirjam]

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I swear the A.I. isn't affected by this if you jump late. They seem to be better at draining contested shots.

Your right

[ggsimmonds]

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I swear the A.I. isn't affected by this if you jump late. They seem to be better at draining contested shots.

There's also a bonus/penalty if you are playing off ball defense.

Some time ago online players were doing offball cheese to counteract the offense's zigzag cheese. In response 2k added a modifier that human contests were more effective than AI contests to encourage them online kids to man up.

[aholbert32]

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Yes thats the problem i have at the moment. I think it would be cooler if it just subs the players you choose to play...

I tried it with chicago gave ball 0 minutes and gave the minutes to Dosunmu and Carter. Ball came then from the bench.

I also havent seen that there is another closing lineup then starting lineup, and when i changed in end game situation next timeout the starter came back...

I'll disagree with this a little. I actually like ACE when it comes to this. The thing that always frustrated me with set lineups is that it doesnt account for players who sporadically play but arent part of the regular rotation. Take Lonnie Walker in last year's playoff. Didnt play much in the first round but got time in the second round (which led to more time because he played well).

Your last note concerns me a bit but worst case scenario, you can always turn off ACE at the end and sub the closing lineup you want.

None of the systems are perfect but right now I'm leaning toward ACE being the best I've seen.

[sportomatic75]

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My opinion so far. The offensive for user is non existent. Was blown out 109-57 due to lack of production

[sirjam]

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There's also a bonus/penalty if you are playing off ball defense.

Some time ago online players were doing offball cheese to counteract the offense's zigzag cheese. In response 2k added a modifier that human contests were more effective than AI contests to encourage them online kids to man up.

I’m playing vs the cpu

[EccentricMeat]

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My opinion so far. The offensive for user is non existent. Was blown out 109-57 due to lack of production

Yes, defense is very good and shot timing is difficult and punishing. You need to take advantage of the drive-and-kick game to get open looks and then learn your shot timings (or just be good with the meter).

I've bumped up Inside/Close/Mid/3PT/Layup Shot Success sliders to 55 for both User and CPU. If you think the CPU is scoring well enough, just leave them at their default and bump up the USER sliders only. Also, drop Shot Timing Impact to whatever works best for you (I'd start at 25 and increase/decrease by 5 until you're happy with the results). Give that a try and let me know if it helps!

[EccentricMeat]

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ALPHA UPDATE v0.0.2!


What's New in v0.0.2
- Increased nearly every Shot Success slider +5 to make shot timing and contested shots a little less punishing. Leave the CPU at default SS values if you don't think they need the +5 boost.
- Shot Timing Impact set to 25 as a base, to then be increased/decreased to suit your skill level/preference. If your timing is very good, increase this back near 50. If you struggle with timing, try 25 and drop in 5 point increments until you are happy with the results.
- Added the remaining Foul Frequency sliders to complete the base foul settings.

[ggsimmonds]

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I’m playing vs the cpu

Doesn't matter, the modifier is still in effect. If you play off ball D the AI will shoot a higher percentage. I get killed by the AI on the offensive glass because of this.