Gamespot Review: 7.0? (less than Madden? LMAO)

[Cappy83]

Re: Gamespot Review: 7.0? (less than Madden? LMAO)

The thing that makes this review seem weird/off is that just about every other website and every other fan that reviewed this game rated it MUCH higher. I think it should be clear to anyone that acually read the review that the guy who wrote it didn't play the game very much at all. 2k10 is not a game that you can play for an hour and see all the things the game has to offer.

But it is a game that you can play for about 30 minutes and realize online doesn't work,association is so messed up it's unplayable, framerate makes offline games horrible and My player has tons of bugs. Seriously nothing in this game works the way it should, 7.0 is generous and I honestly would give it maybe a 5.0. It simply doesn't work, the fact that people actually defend this game crazy to me. I have been playing video games for 15 years and this is by far the most glitched/bugged game I have ever played, worse than Two Worlds. The majority of the reviews did not play online nor association and every one mention serious framerate issues. My Xbox had never froze before in over 2 years and it has now easily over 20 times in a week in every mode this game offers.

[Kaanyr Vhok]

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You obviously have no concept of business and fanbase. 80% of people who play the game e
ither love it out the box or think it's too hard to spam with kobe or dwight howard. Why would 2K ever discourage them from playing the game? With sliders, simheads can get a realistic NBA
experience (more than I can say for other games).

Which brings me ti the Gamespot review. It's impossible to grade the game from a sim perspective when the reviwer doesn't know the ins and out of the sport their reviewing.

But EA does it. Does the largest publisher in the industry lack business sense too.

[Kaanyr Vhok]

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While I think the reviewer is an idiot to suggest that 2k10 is less sim than Live, I like that 2k10 got such a low score (7.0). The amount of bugs and glitches this year (and honestly, last year) are absolutely unacceptable. VC and the 2K team need to realize that they built a fanbase on the fact that their game is better and more realistic than Live. Having these bugs and glitches each year (along with servers that are always down) just make them look unprofessional in comparison to EA. They really, really need to step it up. I've supported 2k since the Dreamcast, but they've really pissed me off this year. The game is often times downright unplayable because of the framerate issues. They had to have known this. To ship the game out despite this is negligent and dishonest.

Why is he an idiot for saying Live is more of a sim? To any layman who picks up both demos Live is going to feel more realistic just off of the shooting sliders alone.

[Kaanyr Vhok]

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I agree, how the heck can any game be rated by how it plays out of the box. Now having sliders is now looked at as a negative in the upside down world of video game reviews. There is most definitely a bias when it comes to how 2k games are reviewed IMHO. If any other game had working sliders that made such a huge difference in many areas of game play it would be praised to no end. Every year a rival game adds something that 2k has had for years whether it's hockey, football or basketball and the scores for that game rise while 2k's fall. Does that make any sense?

How can you not rate a game by how it plays out of the box? Sliders should be for perfecting a games finer points or transforming it into NBA JAM not making an NBA game play like the NBA. Thats something the developers should provide. With shooting there is no excuse. Its not hard to do. A lot of us could do or have done it. Just as bad as the sliders are the ratings and how is it that CH 2k8 has better pass defense (which is difficult to impossible to fix with sliders) than NBA 2k8-10.

Then you have another undeniable fact that how a game plays out of the box is directly related to how it will play online especially when you cant even select the difficulty to play on.

If you release a game where everyone shoots like they are alone in the gym on the default level then you are basiacally giving up. IMO for a game to deserve a high review in the 9.5-10s you have to get the simple things right like shooting sliders. I'm not saying the game has to be difficult becasue to be honest 2k10 is nearly as easy on Pro as the typical 2khoops game so its not about difficulty and casual gamers its about realism. Its NBA 2k10 not Paintball 2k10. The standard has to be the NBA and if OUT OF THE BOX the game cant even provide simi-realistic shooting percentages or at least attempt to provide them barring exploits then any decent reviewer which there arent many of should be very critical.

[mars blackmon]

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Sliders should be for perfecting a games finer points or transforming it into NBA JAM not making an NBA game play like the NBA. Thats something the developers should provide.

Thank you for this Kaanyr because I agree to the fullest.


LOL @ someone telling me it's my fault because I haven't toyed with the sliders enough to get a realistic game.


I do in fact tweak the sliders out of necessity.


But to tell me it's my duty to make the game a sim experience? LOL unreal.

[Dalsanto0026]

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You obviously have no concept of business and fanbase. 80% of people who play the game e
ither love it out the box or think it's too hard to spam with kobe or dwight howard. Why would 2K ever discourage them from playing the game? With sliders, simheads can get a realistic NBA
experience (more than I can say for other games).

Which brings me ti the Gamespot review. It's impossible to grade the game from a sim perspective when the reviwer doesn't know the ins and out of the sport their reviewing.

What? You have no concept of what I'm saying, I know how sliders work, genius. Go back and re-read my post.

As I've already stated, sim players shouldn't have to mess with sliders to get a realistic experience.

[Rocky]

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The ame has plenty off issues but in know way is it a 7, get real.

But EA does it. Does the largest publisher in the industry lack business sense too.

What? I KNOW you're not talking about Live 10, which features some of the biggest online exploits of all time. The devs of NHL 10 and Madden 10 have admitted that they cater the gameolay to a casual crowd. Really have no idea what you are talking about. Really no game is complete sim out of the box.

[Jasong7777]

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Really no game is complete sim out of the box.

This

[Kaanyr Vhok]

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What? I KNOW you're not talking about Live 10, which features some of the biggest online exploits of all time. The devs of NHL 10 and Madden 10 have admitted that they cater the gameolay to a casual crowd. Really have no idea what you are talking about. Really no game is complete sim out of the box.

The developer was probably talking about control not probability. In the last year or three depending on the game with EA's football, soccer, hockey, and basketball I feel like the devs are aiming for realistic gameplay. They dont deliver in many areas but I can see that its what they are aiming for.

To a casual gamer on the default level out of the box its tough to throw deep in Madden, score in Fifa, tough to score in the paint in Live, and its tough to score 4+ goals and rack up a ton of hits in NHL 10. Now contrast that with NBA 2k10. To the casual gamer scoring inside is easy (heck if a gamespot reviewer says its easy its easy) and at the same time the CPU's shooting is juiced too so its not like the game is easier, its just more offensive/unbalanced/unrealistic. Pro is harder than its ever been in the series so I dont see how its catering the casual gamers.

[The_Show]

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Really no game is complete sim out of the box.

This

Man, I haven't moved one slider in any direction in MLB The Show for PS3. The game is extremely like a simulation outta the box and that's one important aspect that makes it a great game.

Every 2K game I've ever played needed sliders tweaked intricately and MLB 2K9 couldn't be fixed through slider adjustments.

They don't know what the F they're doin' anymore. Just face it. It's not a big deal, but you gotta look at this problem realistically or they're never gonna fix it. It's like other guys have said in this thread, it's sad when you a buy a game and don't feel like playin' it 'til a patch is released and that's a gamble. The patch might not fix the problems.

[Rocboyz101]

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How can you not rate a game by how it plays out of the box? Sliders should be for perfecting a games finer points or transforming it into NBA JAM not making an NBA game play like the NBA. Thats something the developers should provide. With shooting there is no excuse. Its not hard to do. A lot of us could do or have done it. Just as bad as the sliders are the ratings and how is it that CH 2k8 has better pass defense (which is difficult to impossible to fix with sliders) than NBA 2k8-10.

Then you have another undeniable fact that how a game plays out of the box is directly related to how it will play online especially when you cant even select the difficulty to play on.

If you release a game where everyone shoots like they are alone in the gym on the default level then you are basiacally giving up. IMO for a game to deserve a high review in the 9.5-10s you have to get the simple things right like shooting sliders. I'm not saying the game has to be difficult becasue to be honest 2k10 is nearly as easy on Pro as the typical 2khoops game so its not about difficulty and casual gamers its about realism. Its NBA 2k10 not Paintball 2k10. The standard has to be the NBA and if OUT OF THE BOX the game cant even provide simi-realistic shooting percentages or at least attempt to provide them barring exploits then any decent reviewer which there arent many of should be very critical.

I agree 1000%..

[malky]

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The reviewer, totally sells the association mode short, no mention of the NBA today feature, that you can control 30 teams, all the other little details. He Just says, associaton is pretty much the same? Come on man!

I'm loving this game and that's the reason why I don't pay the reviewers much mind. Everybody has their opinion, and he def. must not be an association guy, because he totally dropped the ball on reviewing that aspect of the game.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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No such thing as a 100% Sim game or a game where you don't make not ONE adjustment as far as sliders go.

[StankonYa]

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Smh...7.0 is a bit too low imo.

They didn't mention Association mode at all and they didn't mention the presentation aspect (NBA Today) or anything like that at all. Nor the oodles of player customization options, instead citing the game for lacking depth.

Out the box the game is a 8 IMO, a 7 is too low. Sliders brings that 8 up to a 8.8 IMO. Now the patch could just blast this 'thang' ..........straight off into the hemisphere, oh' ......thats IMO,

Now ,I feel how dude could give 2k a 7 , looking at his review........but the sure lack of depth he showed towards association, blacktop, and nba today game modes........even game saves , presentation ect.........leads me to believe that he........ IMO, didn't know half of what the H** L he was writing about............. IMO,

[spankdatazz22]

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But you didn't hear any of this in the review.

If in a review of Madden/Live/The Show/NHL/MLB2K, the reviewer states that adjustments to some sliders will make the game better (which the reviewers do in many cases), isn't it only fair for that to apply to NBA2K10? You arguably customize this game more than any sports game on the market and it isn't even acknowledged.

This game should be more balanced out of the box, we're in complete agreement there. It should be docked for that. The other side to that equation shouldn't be ignored (neither should The Association, new tendecies, and the commentary).

I also agree with you on the bugs, glitches, and servers. Unacceptable. I went ape**** when the game froze on me the 2nd time. However, the review really doesn't emcompass the big picture of the game. Hell, I learned more in some of these impression threads than that review.

thx for articulating the point much better than I did