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  • wepr3
    Pro
    • Feb 2005
    • 584

    #76
    Re: Noob to Association Mode? Here's what to do to avoid 2k's glitches.

    Originally posted by Onpoint17
    I just wanted to add my 2 cents on the D-league. I got this tip from somewhere on the forum. But when you start your Association or even 4 yrs into it like I am with no 2nd patch, you can age the CPU D-leaguers by editing their ages and years in the NBA to the maximum setting. This will effectively cause all the CPU D-leaguers to "retire". Now in my next season after I did that, the D-league is now filled with known NBA players and players from my imported draft class. This does take time but it was worth it.

    Also I only control 2 teams in my Association. After 4 seasons the rosters on all the other CPU teams were horrible. This is with trades turned off until Feb. But you know the scenario, teams with 5 PGs and 5 PFs all rated about the same with 1 SF or C. I was fed up with this so I resigned from my 2nd user control team and became the GM for every team in the NBA and fixed every roster and rotation before the start of the season. I even edited contracts so that most teams now have salary CAP space to make trades in Feb. It took a lot of time but it was worth it.
    Thanks for the tips, and props to you for spending all that time on it. I've only just begun my first season, so it'll be a while before I get to season 2, but this info is very helpful.
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    • Onpoint17
      Rookie
      • Nov 2007
      • 381

      #77
      Re: Noob to Association Mode? Here's what to do to avoid 2k's glitches.

      Originally posted by FragrantDogsnob
      I've seen someone mention on another thread that you can sort this glitch even if you only run one team. Apparently you resign from your team, choose the team with the messed up rosters, change their rotation etc then resign and take on your original team again.... well i just tried this and when i resign from the team who had messed up rosters, i cant take control of my original team???? they are not there to choose? Can somebody please tell me where im going wrong???
      That's why I always control 2 teams in Association. The 2nd team used as a "spare" in case something happens (which in this game can happen at any time) and you can't get back to the real team you want to control. I don't have an answer for you on how to find the missing team. That's pretty weird that it happened. I had no problem switching between 29 teams and getting back to the original 2nd team I was controlling.

      I wanted to add that I feel it's important to take the time to fix the rosters to make the teams more competitive. When there are 5 players all at the same position with equal ratings, they don't get the playing time they need. They get unhappy, they demand trades, the team chemistry drops like a rock and you have an uncompetitive team that is barely worth playing. (But this is with the player roles and chemistry still on and not downloading the 2nd patch). I like to boost up teams like the Cavaliers, the Magic and the Celtics, etc. so its a challenge when I play them. It's fun to finally give Lebron the supporting players he needs to make the Cavs an elite NBA team.

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      • croc500
        Rookie
        • Jul 2004
        • 414

        #78
        Re: Noob to Association Mode? Here's what to do to avoid 2k's glitches.

        Im new at this game and already frustrated because I cant shoot worth a darn, even after pratice. I am now totally confused as to what I need to do to play association, this is horrible. Beautiful game but too many flaws.

        Enough of my rant, can someone please help me.

        1. I just started a new association, can restart if I need to. Is it best to start with living rosters since I hear it corrects the FA issue rather than a custom roster from 2k share?

        2. How do living rosters work in association mode v/s a custom roster, any difference?

        3. Also, Im worried about the play time for starters, I noticed in my own team, NO Hornets, I had to rebuild rotation. Are the other CPU teams messed up too? What is the easiest way to correct this, I dont want to control more than one team.

        4. The other item Im worried about is that 3 point deal with roles turned on, is this still going on with the living rosters?

        5. If I turn roles off, does that mean the CPU will make all kinds of crazy trades?

        Thanks for the help, ive read this tread but remain confused because I am somewhat new at this game. I have had it for a while but have never enjoyed it because it is too difficult for me, IM trying easier settings and hopefully that will work, but with the items above, Im not sure its even worth it anymore.

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        • BroMontana82
          Support Sim
          • Nov 2004
          • 2225

          #79
          Re: Noob to Association Mode? Here's what to do to avoid 2k's glitches.

          1. there is a workaround when using custom rosters, but yes, it's easier to use the living rosters.

          2. i find that there is a big difference. the 2k rosters are garbage in terms of both ratings and tendencies. the custom ones i use not only have sim stats on point but players actually play like they do in real life.

          3. i haven't had this problem and i actually think this is because I use a custom roster.

          4. doesn't matter what roster you use. you need to turn off roles...

          5. yes unless you turn off CPU trades too.

          one other thing you may want to think about is that with roles off and chemistry on, you will see insane team chemistry percentages which leads to players getting unrealistic boosts. the bottom line is you need to play with roles, chemistry, and CPU trades off. roster-wise, it's all personal preference, but in my opinion, the 2k rosters stink but they do have the FA glitch which means you need to do the workaround which is very annoying.

          pick your poison!!

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          • LHSLax_D24
            MVP
            • Feb 2009
            • 1035

            #80
            Re: Noob to Association Mode? Here's what to do to avoid 2k's glitches.

            Originally posted by FragrantDogsnob
            Yes. Lowering D-leaguers potential to 35 definitley does stop the cpu signing them over F.A's, i unfortunatley do this everytime i start an association.
            I dont generally go through each D-League team and change them, at the start i spend say 20mins just editing all of the D-Leaguers in the Free Agent list who's rating is 58 and above. Then i will check the "transaction news" in "League news" in the "NBA.com" section every saturday from the 7th of November and if a team signs a D-Leaguer with a rating of 57 or less, i'll go to Rosters, find the team he's signed for, edit his potential to 35, then that player will never play a game for the team who signed him and the team wont re-sign him once his mere 400k contract ends after 1 year.
            I know this might sound long winded but honestly its not whilst your doint it.
            I don't because I have an Association labeled an 'Start' where I do not need to do this. I control all 30 teams anyways, so it doesn't matter what team I am, because I can choose whichever I want.
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            • croc500
              Rookie
              • Jul 2004
              • 414

              #81
              Re: Noob to Association Mode? Here's what to do to avoid 2k's glitches.

              Originally posted by sambf12
              1. there is a workaround when using custom rosters, but yes, it's easier to use the living rosters.

              2. i find that there is a big difference. the 2k rosters are garbage in terms of both ratings and tendencies. the custom ones i use not only have sim stats on point but players actually play like they do in real life.

              3. i haven't had this problem and i actually think this is because I use a custom roster.

              4. doesn't matter what roster you use. you need to turn off roles...

              5. yes unless you turn off CPU trades too.

              one other thing you may want to think about is that with roles off and chemistry on, you will see insane team chemistry percentages which leads to players getting unrealistic boosts. the bottom line is you need to play with roles, chemistry, and CPU trades off. roster-wise, it's all personal preference, but in my opinion, the 2k rosters stink but they do have the FA glitch which means you need to do the workaround which is very annoying.

              pick your poison!!
              Wow, just wow, very upsetting. Anyways, what roster set do you use?
              Also, Does the living rosters keep updating during association or not?

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              • BroMontana82
                Support Sim
                • Nov 2004
                • 2225

                #82
                Re: Noob to Association Mode? Here's what to do to avoid 2k's glitches.

                Originally posted by croc500
                Wow, just wow, very upsetting. Anyways, what roster set do you use?
                Also, Does the living rosters keep updating during association or not?
                yeah man, tell me about it. as soon as we figured out fixes, more glitches popped up. i mean, i just realized that the CPU will sign D-league players over FAs unless you edit them. i think i have about had it with this game. i'm using an older roster set - nogster's NYE release. there are a lot of good ones out there including one that has nogster's tendencies (best in the biz) with rashidi's ratings (best in the biz).

                and no, they don't keep updating once you download one and start an association. if you want an updated one, you need to download it and start over again.

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                • rickmitchell22
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 757

                  #83
                  Re: Noob to Association Mode? Here's what to do to avoid 2k's glitches.

                  I released Kevin Martin during my association and now he cant be re-signed. is there a fix for this

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                  • BroMontana82
                    Support Sim
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 2225

                    #84
                    Re: Noob to Association Mode? Here's what to do to avoid 2k's glitches.

                    Originally posted by rickmitchell22
                    I released Kevin Martin during my association and now he cant be re-signed. is there a fix for this
                    well the fix for the FA is to assign the guy to a team, edit his contract to 1 year at $0 then release him so you may have to edit martin, write down his current contract details, then change it to $0, sign him, then change it back to what it originally was.

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                    • croc500
                      Rookie
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 414

                      #85
                      Re: Noob to Association Mode? Here's what to do to avoid 2k's glitches.

                      Thanks for the help Sam. I have another noob question. When I started my game, it asked if I wanted to use living rosters, I told it no, then I went to 2kshare and downloaded the lastest 2k roster file, and then started my association. Are the living rosters different from the latest 2k roster file on 2kshare?

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                      • Heiks
                        Rookie
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 157

                        #86
                        Re: Noob to Association Mode? Here's what to do to avoid 2k's glitches.

                        Originally posted by Onpoint17
                        I just wanted to add my 2 cents on the D-league. I got this tip from somewhere on the forum. But when you start your Association or even 4 yrs into it like I am with no 2nd patch, you can age the CPU D-leaguers by editing their ages and years in the NBA to the maximum setting. This will effectively cause all the CPU D-leaguers to "retire". Now in my next season after I did that, the D-league is now filled with known NBA players and players from my imported draft class. This does take time but it was worth it.

                        Also I only control 2 teams in my Association. After 4 seasons the rosters on all the other CPU teams were horrible. This is with trades turned off until Feb. But you know the scenario, teams with 5 PGs and 5 PFs all rated about the same with 1 SF or C. I was fed up with this so I resigned from my 2nd user control team and became the GM for every team in the NBA and fixed every roster and rotation before the start of the season. I even edited contracts so that most teams now have salary CAP space to make trades in Feb. It took a lot of time but it was worth it.
                        These are gold! I already started my association and did the potential edits. Now I edited some of the ages too and did a test simulation, it turned out great after one season! But I gotta admit it was funny to see Stackhouse and Finley play there and lead the D-League in scoring.

                        I was never interested in a 30-team association, but controlling two teams sounds like the the best option. Too bad I already started a one team franchise, wouldn't want to edit all those D-Leaguers again. :/ I guess I'll have to manage with 3-team trades.

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                        • Heiks
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 157

                          #87
                          Re: Noob to Association Mode? Here's what to do to avoid 2k's glitches.

                          Originally posted by FragrantDogsnob
                          i had no idea the cpu did this..... i was just getting back into 2k10 aswell but everytime i do i discover more glitches!
                          i know that i can control all 30 teams to get around this but in absolute all honesty... i dont want to. I want to concentrate all my efforts on one team!
                          I've seen someone mention on another thread that you can sort this glitch even if you only run one team. Apparently you resign from your team, choose the team with the messed up rosters, change their rotation etc then resign and take on your original team again.... well i just tried this and when i resign from the team who had messed up rosters, i cant take control of my original team???? they are not there to choose? Can somebody please tell me where im going wrong???
                          I haven't tried this in 2K10, but here's a workaround that worked in 2K8:

                          Every time you resigned you were given 4 or 5 teams as an option. Usually those were the worst teams in the league, ratings-wise.

                          So what you could do was edit two or three top rated players on your desired team to 50-60 overall and your team's overall rating would take a dive and the team would appear among the teams to sign with. I usually set only offensive awareness, defensive awareness and man defense to 50 these players and that was enough. If not, edit more players or ratings.

                          Of course, don't forget to re-edit those players back to normal after getting your team back.

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                          • BroMontana82
                            Support Sim
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 2225

                            #88
                            Re: Noob to Association Mode? Here's what to do to avoid 2k's glitches.

                            Originally posted by croc500
                            Thanks for the help Sam. I have another noob question. When I started my game, it asked if I wanted to use living rosters, I told it no, then I went to 2kshare and downloaded the lastest 2k roster file, and then started my association. Are the living rosters different from the latest 2k roster file on 2kshare?
                            no problem. no they aren't. that option makes it so every time you start the game you'll get the latest one automatically.

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                            • catatonic1221
                              Rookie
                              • Dec 2006
                              • 12

                              #89
                              Re: Noob to Association Mode? Here's what to do to avoid 2k's glitches.

                              So based on what I've read, what is the general consensus for playing this game? Player roles off or on? CPU Trades off or on (I'd much rather prefer the latter)? What the hell is "Simulation Strategy" supposed to even do? Etc...

                              These questions coincide with a thread I started earlier today, which I'll surmise: When you assign a starter 35 minutes, sim a lot of games, and see that he's getting 5/6 personal fouls in 20 minutes of play, he'll start bitching about "not getting his minutes" even though he's the sole reason he's not getting them. Similarly, a sixth man getting 30 minutes per game will bitch about not being a starter, and guys that simply don't have the stamina for the minutes they want, also cause odd morale drops. Thus, they get pissed off and demand a trade, all while killing their stats and hijacking the other players' morale.

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                              • FragrantDogsnob
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 71

                                #90
                                Re: Noob to Association Mode? Here's what to do to avoid 2k's glitches.

                                Originally posted by catatonic1221
                                So based on what I've read, what is the general consensus for playing this game? Player roles off or on? CPU Trades off or on (I'd much rather prefer the latter)? What the hell is "Simulation Strategy" supposed to even do? Etc...

                                These questions coincide with a thread I started earlier today, which I'll surmise: When you assign a starter 35 minutes, sim a lot of games, and see that he's getting 5/6 personal fouls in 20 minutes of play, he'll start bitching about "not getting his minutes" even though he's the sole reason he's not getting them. Similarly, a sixth man getting 30 minutes per game will bitch about not being a starter, and guys that simply don't have the stamina for the minutes they want, also cause odd morale drops. Thus, they get pissed off and demand a trade, all while killing their stats and hijacking the other players' morale.
                                Half of the fun of this game is working out how to get around glitches, only to think you've got around the problems - start an association then realize you hit another glitch which means you have to restart your association with another workaround.
                                I personally think im done with this game like many others on here. See if i can get some cash from somebody off ebay for it.

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