NBA 2K11 - Let's talk about Association improvements

[diamondmd]

Re: NBA 2K11 - Let's talk about Association improvements

The association has a lot of potential but the biggest gripe is the off season free agent cap issue where the cpu teams can sign players even though they are going over the cap. This is unrealistic and ultimatley should not be in the game. The cap is not used properly for CPU teams.

Example: I am the Bulls in a franchise and I am 20 mil under the cap. I offer a max contract to PLAYER X while the Jazz who are 12 million under the cap offer PLAYER X the max contract which is well over 12 mil the Jazz have under the cap BUT somehow the Jazz sign this player and go over the cap in doing so. Player X was not a former Jazz player. This to me is a big issue that has been in the game for 3 years.

[tril]

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I like association but here are some things that should/could be added.

total control of a team, including concessions, tv contracts, arenas, etc.

bench players should play more like bench players. there are too many games were the 2nd unit performs better than the starters.

maybe player progression needs to be distributed better. a 50 rated player should play like one.

team practice mode should be integrated into the overall moral of a team. practice a play more, the better its executed in a game. this could also be tied into increasing a players attributes. not just 1 player at time. run that pick and pop flawlessly in practice and watch Josh Smiths mid range increase a bit. and Mike Bibbys Offensive Awareness / pass rating increase a bit.

the individual practice should cost money, not points. it costs money to have the lights on in the gym. also this tiem in the gym shoulf affect the players stamina/health.

how about adding a treadmill/aerobics to the weekly practices. increases and or decerease a players stamina.

adding nagging injuries into the association. some players with nagging injuries perform better than others. is this in the association mode?

player touches in a game. players getting enough shots in a game should also affect their moral, not just minutes.
some players just want to be stars and nothing else. this could add another element of coaching and gm skills.

do you pair up Lebron with Wade and Bosh. will one complain about not getting enough points or shots?

assigning captains. captains could also affect moral of a team.


Dynamic attendance, should be tied into ticket prices and concessions. is the team making enough money to pay the bills? how do you keep an arena packed on a losing team to cover the bills. do you lower ticket prices.

how about adding a collective bargain agreement negotiations every 3-5 years.

[oxide]

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how do you guys do trades when controlling 30 teams? How do you know it would make sense and both teams would agree, you are kind of playing god, no?

[500bloc]

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Users should be able to sign and release Coaches in the Roster screen, similar to how we're able to do with players, and be able to edit their ratings.

[Comduklakis]

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how do you guys do trades when controlling 30 teams? How do you know it would make sense and both teams would agree, you are kind of playing god, no?

yep. and it feels good.

Not to mention that a chimp making random button pushes would make smarter trades than the CPU logic, so it is doubtful that any person committed enough to run all 30 teams would make trades worse than the CPU. And finally, if they aren't fair, so what? It's about fun. For some like me that means being as realisitic as possible, for others that might mean forcing the CPU to trade Lebron for Eddie Curry. Either way do what you enjoy.

[Hassan Darkside]

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Users should be able to sign and release Coaches in the Roster screen, similar to how we're able to do with players, and be able to edit their ratings.

Agree. Speaking of which, coaches have not been touched on in this thread I don't think.

As far as coaching goes, I would like to see:
-Coaching affect player ratings. Right now I feel like coaches don't have much of an impact on teams. Yes, teams hire and fire them at will but I haven't noticed much of a turnaround. Someone like Mike D'Antoni should give his team like a +5 offensive awareness, +2 speed, -3 defensive awareness. Someone like Phil Jackson should give his team a +5 offensive awareness, +5 defensive awareness, +10 team chemistry, etc. Boosts should be determined by their ratings. Same goes for assistant coaches.

-Retired players should be able to come back and coach. Madden has this in its Franchise mode although I feel it's a bit abrupt. Maybe after 5 seasons after retirement, a player should pop up in the coaches pool. Or around age 40-50.

-Coaches should progress as their team progresses. If its a coaches first year and his team goes to the NBA Finals, he should get pretty decent boosts.

-Assistant coaches should be able to be promoted to head coach and head coaches should also be able to be signed as assistant coaches.

-A create-a-coach feature wouldn't be bad either imo.

[BroMontana82]

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would it also be possible to implement some way to make it harder for a player to play for a coach they hate or had some beef with or whose style they didn't like? like spreewell and carlesimo? or someone not wanting to play in d'antoni's run and gun.

[Jesus]

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-can the difficulty of association games finally be as challenging as exhibition games ?

- I would like to see the "coach profile" and 'shot tendencies' change with the addition and subtraction of good players.

- I may be alone on this one, but i'd like developmental points to roll over from month to month if unused.

- Too many trades duing the season should have an negative effect on trying to sign free agents

[devineintervention23]

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I agree with developmental points should roll over from month to month if not used

I want an option in the coaching menu to "Rest Starters for playoffs" So that they won't get upset about getting minutes. It could also make for topics in the Headlines for example "Hawks rest their starters for playoffs"

Playoffs don't seem like the playoffs, there should be more emotion, excitement, and the crowd should stand out than in a regular season game.

You should be able to have more control of your team, the user should be allowed to set prices for stuff like ticket prices, concessions, and parking. Depending how good your team is doing will determine how many people will come to the game. Poor teams will should have a lot of empty seats in the stands while a great team should have a sell out crowd.

[econoodle]

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it does so much right already
the obvious things, which have plagued all sports games is trading logic

nobody should have made me offers for eddy curry, but i ton 5, 5!
thats got to stop.


improve the draft.
add analysts and MSG coverage.


a tv style association recap show, like madden!

oh and cyberfaces for generated rooks

[true15]

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a real draft would be nice meaning the top draft picks put on the hats trades,updates,comentary,etc.

also you should be able to create pre-game rituals for old and new players so the mode wont get stale or just start off at the tip-off after one season

more commentators and more comentary and regular intros is a must i mean its 2k11 the picture thing is lame

[JBH3]

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I think a simple/quick improvement to association would be having some association-based achievements.

Give me, the user, some incentive to play deep into association. Be it 50 gamer points for winning 3 championships, or for winning an MVP, etc.

NBA 2K's MLB counterpart has a good set of franchise(association) based achievements year to year. Why can't NBA2K?

[true15]

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trades should be noted during the game and how well the players are playing together after the the trade would be tight also a pre-game show wouldnt hurt a better realistic half show would be nice and video replays of previous games instead of a picture such as top blocks top assist top plays top dunks etc. with commentary to go along with

[500bloc]

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How about "Real GM's" in 2k11, I've already touched on how they should be rated in a previous post, but I believe the 2K community is tired of random generics. I would like to see Ainge make moves for Boston, Kevin Pritchard for the Blazers, or Danny Ferry trying to keep LeBron in Cleveland.

[tha2one]

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Add some GM feature:
Ticket prices: increase/decrease prices assign Fan nights merchandise. All of these determines teams overall performance how loyal your fans are. And the long awaited feature of having DYNAMIC Attendance plays a role in this.

Relocations - create a arena feature - being Able to do this is cool.

Real practice Facilities

Authenticate NBDL Venues

Able to play preseason games in different arenas as well

Trading for cash

have summer games and workouts for draft prospects

have free agents come in to the practice facility work them out to see if they will be a good fit for the team.