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  • jeebs9
    Fear is the Unknown
    • Oct 2008
    • 47568

    #451
    Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

    Originally posted by kolanji
    ^^^^ and there u have it folks which just proves my point mentioned earlier that real player% is not skilled determination but porbability base calculation with no penalty for human input.....so ur offense doesnt take much of a hit and the outcome is more determine by who plays the best defense becasue offense is a roll of the dice base on team/players ur playing with...
    and again with real FT% about ppl saying the hit 100% of bad shots with guys like shak because they know his release....try moving the FT slider closer to 100 and watch as u have to focus at the line like in real life casue it seems that the closer to 100 a little too early and little too late FT dont hit at all.and for a little added difficulty take off FT help that gives info on if shot was too early or late and u have to take adjustment on missed shots by ur own judgement
    Originally posted by erickonasis
    No you are letting the game play for you...when it comes to jump shooting you are not doing any work at all you are letting the CPU basically decide and time your shots. 2k games have never been about that for me. I dont care about some FG% stat . Playing with RFG% feels like i might as well just sim all the games .You dont have to practice shots anybody can just jump right in and shoot 3 's at will with Kobe on RFG%..and once again You must be talking about ONLINE stuff because the OFFLINE they CPU has NEVER hit a fadeaway 3 with rondo on me. I play off rondo the whole game when i play the celtics they are one of the easiest teams for me to play against...Maybe that patch changed gameplay but it does none of that offline for me.

    Again guys.... You keep kicking up the "no skills" dirty up in the air. You guys are not seeing that both options have their negatives and postives. And that both take skills/"basketball know how" at the end of the day to perform well in a game.

    Erick... You didn't read my post correctly. I said he hit three med range fade aways with Rondo.

    kolanji.... You too are understanding the background work. I know about the freethrow slider already. No one said hit a 100%. I think what most people here were saying that they were hitting FT's out of the real players ft % of real life. If someone is shooting a high precentage with a bad free throw shooter like Shaq. That means they are hitting the perfect freethrow release at a high %. Even if you turn the slider to 100%....This person will still hit shots at a high percent. Because the release timing doesn't change.
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    • amedawg00
      2K OL Legend
      • Jan 2008
      • 2884

      #452
      Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

      Just be glad that 2k has given users the option of either or. To each his own. No need to bash people that prefer Real FG% as a preference, while labeling them as no skill users. The great part of this franchise are the depth of option and customability. Having said that, Real FG% has no business being used online IMO. If you are going to match wits with a fellow human, then you better come correct with your shot releases IMO.
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      • erickonasis
        MVP
        • Jan 2006
        • 3016

        #453
        Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

        ^^^ all i know Jeebs is i want a match against you with shot stick timing on and i want to see if you hardly ever miss

        i get green on about 99% of my shots and they still dont go in as much as you claim yours do
        Last edited by erickonasis; 11-15-2010, 10:53 AM.
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        • erickonasis
          MVP
          • Jan 2006
          • 3016

          #454
          Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

          Originally posted by amedawg00
          Just be glad that 2k has given users the option of either or. To each his own. No need to bash people that prefer Real FG% as a preference, while labeling them as no skill users. The great part of this franchise are the depth of option and customability. Having said that, Real FG% has no business being used online IMO. If you are going to match wits with a fellow human, then you better come correct with your shot releases IMO.
          and no one said they were no skill users im just saying it doesnt takin any skill or practice to make shots when this is on. You still have to play defense
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          • jeebs9
            Fear is the Unknown
            • Oct 2008
            • 47568

            #455
            Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

            Originally posted by erickonasis
            This is what i mean..push the button and pretty much the cpu decides if it goes in or not...anybody can basically make shots with no learning curve whatsoever with rFG% on.
            And Jeebs we gonna find out this week...ima have the ps3 version sometime late in the week. I wanna see you get the high fg % aginst me with the shot stick timing on. That way we'll know if your correct o just playing against a bunch of scrubs
            No again.. you guys giving the wrong impression again. The "CPU"doesn't decide...The "Players shooting ratings" decides. For the shooting situation.

            (in the bold) I don't like how your being a little "M.I.M." about the situation. Scrubs or not Scrubs...or Vets or first year guys. You still don't understand both side of the situation.

            Let me show from a different window instead of a non shooter like Rondo. Lets take a superstar like Carmelo. A guy in my league who just started playing with Carmelo is shooting 53.8 percent from the field with him. 53.8 percent with Carmelo...who has never shot more than 50 (only once in his career) for his career in real life. If you ever played this guy.... It is down right annoying to play him... No not because he is a cheese. But because Melo doesn't miss (feels like it)... You can play whatever defense you want. It feels impossible to stop him because he knows his release so well...Now think about it from a non shooter like Rondo point of view. If my league buddy knew Rondo's release. Instead of hitting the impossible shots like Melo would. He would hit open shots too consistently.
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            • jeebs9
              Fear is the Unknown
              • Oct 2008
              • 47568

              #456
              Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

              Originally posted by erickonasis
              ^^^ all i know Jeebs is i want a match against you with shot stick timing on and i want to see if you hardly ever miss

              i get green on about 99% of my shots and they still dont go in as much as you claim yours do
              You keep saying 100%.... You took my claim a little too literally lol... Like I explained above... You hit too many shots your not suppose to hit with certain player...that have no business even hitting the shot.
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              • jeebs9
                Fear is the Unknown
                • Oct 2008
                • 47568

                #457
                Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                Originally posted by erickonasis
                ^^^ all i know Jeebs is i want a match against you with shot stick timing on and i want to see if you hardly ever miss

                i get green on about 99% of my shots and they still dont go in as much as you claim yours do
                If we play... the first game is going to be real player%. Then shot timing...
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                • CMH
                  Making you famous
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 26203

                  #458
                  Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                  Originally posted by erickonasis
                  THANK YOU!....you basically are letting the game play for you...i cant use that crap
                  Here's the deal, erickonasis.

                  There are two sides to this story:

                  1. The people that use Shot Stick and prefer it.
                  2. The poeple that use Real FG% and prefer it.

                  Now here's the issue:

                  You aren't doing a good job of respecting people preferring to use Real FG% with your tone. I'm not saying that you are purposely trying to ridicule people. It's been very mature this whole conversation, but I do think you need to tone it down a bit. If you don't like Real FG%, then you don't like it.

                  I'm not really sure why there is much of an argument about this.

                  People like one thing or don't. Play the game the way you want to play it.

                  If I want to play on Rookie, bump up shooting to 100 for USER and 0 for Computer and win 400-2 every game...well, that's my decision.
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                  • jeebs9
                    Fear is the Unknown
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 47568

                    #459
                    Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                    ^^Thats exactly what I was trying to tell him before without starting anything^^
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                    • erickonasis
                      MVP
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 3016

                      #460
                      Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                      Originally posted by CMH
                      Here's the deal, erickonasis.

                      There are two sides to this story:

                      1. The people that use Shot Stick and prefer it.
                      2. The poeple that use Real FG% and prefer it.

                      Now here's the issue:

                      You aren't doing a good job of respecting people preferring to use Real FG% with your tone. I'm not saying that you are purposely trying to ridicule people. It's been very mature this whole conversation, but I do think you need to tone it down a bit. If you don't like Real FG%, then you don't like it.

                      I'm not really sure why there is much of an argument about this.

                      People like one thing or don't. Play the game the way you want to play it.

                      If I want to play on Rookie, bump up shooting to 100 for USER and 0 for Computer and win 400-2 every game...well, that's my decision.
                      i apologize then...To each his own...sorry if i offended anyone..i clearly said "I" when referring to my experiences with each setting
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                      • NDAlum
                        ND
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 11453

                        #461
                        Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                        I guess I am a full time casual video game player because they are simply for entertainment. I never thought about "skill" playing any part in a video game.

                        I'm active in sports leagues and use that to fulfill my competitive nature. Video games? Well whatever you have to resort to...
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                        • erickonasis
                          MVP
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 3016

                          #462
                          Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                          Originally posted by NDAlum
                          I guess I am a full time casual video game player because they are simply for entertainment. I never thought about "skill" playing any part in a video game.

                          I'm active in sports leagues and use that to fulfill my competitive nature. Video games? Well whatever you have to resort to...
                          I guess i shouldnt have used the word "Skill" For clarification i should have said whats "Easiest" to use in terms of learning
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                          • NDAlum
                            ND
                            • Jun 2010
                            • 11453

                            #463
                            Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                            Actually there is nothing to learn, it basically is all stat based. (Real FG%)

                            I guess you could say it's "easy" because there is nothing to learn though.
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                            • DJ
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 17756

                              #464
                              Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                              I'm enjoying using Real FG%. It forces me to pay a lot more attention to my roster and figure out where I need to put guys in the best position for them to score.
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                              • erickonasis
                                MVP
                                • Jan 2006
                                • 3016

                                #465
                                Re: Will You Use Real Player % Or Shot Stick Timing?

                                Originally posted by NDAlum
                                Actually there is nothing to learn, it basically is all stat based. (Real FG%)

                                I guess you could say it's "easy" because there is nothing to learn though.
                                which is basically all i was saying in the first place....Sorry for my choice of words but you are exactly correct
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