For a realistic gameplay experience, try Pro/Default Slider settings

[tcnumba10]

Re: For a realistic gameplay experience, try Pro/Default Slider settings

There are some pros and cons for both Pro and All-Star difficulties I found.

Pro:
+ CPU isn't given hidden attributes
+ USER doesn't feel cheated when losing
- CPU Star players are not aggressive enough
- Lots of shots taken at the end of the shot clock (due to lack of aggressiveness), plays develop too slow

All-Star:
+ CPU Star players are more aggressive
+ CPU players perform more moves that are not seen on Pro
+ More passes and ball movement by the CPU team
- CPU is given hidden attributes, feels like the CPU is cheating sometimes
- More hot and cold shooting streaks for CPU and User

Played Pro and All-star against the Hornets and found that on Pro, CPU West was not getting enough touches down low and alot of 3s were taken by Ariza and Benelli instead of being patient for West to get proper position. On All-star, Ariza and Benelli were patient and fed the ball to West instead of dashing it up for 3 whenever they got the ball. CPU Paul was performing floaters for once which was never seen when playing on Pro difficulty. But there were also monster runs by the cpu and lots of cold streaks by the user.

I think I'll stick to All-Star/Default, as long as the cpu superstars play the way they should play and are dominant I will be happy when I lose.

[Paul Pierce_OS]

Re: For a realistic gameplay experience, try Pro/Default Slider settings

There are some pros and cons for both Pro and All-Star difficulties I found.

Pro:
+ CPU isn't given hidden attributes
+ USER doesn't feel cheated when losing
- CPU Star players are not aggressive enough
- Lots of shots taken at the end of the shot clock (due to lack of aggressiveness), plays develop too slow

All-Star:
+ CPU Star players are more aggressive
+ CPU players perform more moves that are not seen on Pro
+ More passes and ball movement by the CPU team
- CPU is given hidden attributes, feels like the CPU is cheating sometimes
- More hot and cold shooting streaks for CPU and User

Played Pro and All-star against the Hornets and found that on Pro, CPU West was not getting enough touches down low and alot of 3s were taken by Ariza and Benelli instead of being patient for West to get proper position. On All-star, Ariza and Benelli were patient and fed the ball to West instead of dashing it up for 3 whenever they got the ball. CPU Paul was performing floaters for once which was never seen when playing on Pro difficulty. But there were also monster runs by the cpu and lots of cold streaks by the user.

I think I'll stick to All-Star/Default, as long as the cpu superstars play the way they should play and are dominant I will be happy when I lose.

Did you make tweaks?

[tcnumba10]

Re: For a realistic gameplay experience, try Pro/Default Slider settings

Did you make tweaks?

Only gameplay sliders I tweaked was the Fouls and Dunk Tendency.

Roster-wise I made sure Star Players had their touches in the 90s. Example would be Boozer and Rose in the 90s, CP3 and West, etc...

[Rockie_Fresh88]

Re: For a realistic gameplay experience, try Pro/Default Slider settings

How do you guys feel about superstar difficulty? I noticed that teams plays don't break down nearly as much

[STLRams]

Re: For a realistic gameplay experience, try Pro/Default Slider settings

So has anyone else confirmed that the CPU offense and CPU star players is more aggressive (better) on allstar default compared to Pro default?

[tcnumba10]

Re: For a realistic gameplay experience, try Pro/Default Slider settings

Ah I'm finding All-Star difficulty is too over-powering. Might have to go back to pro...

[Rockie_Fresh88]

Re: For a realistic gameplay experience, try Pro/Default Slider settings

I urge everyone to play the same team twice on pro then allstar. The cpu plays so much smarter on allstar and aggressively. Stars shine on allstar. The problem is that allstar can sometimes have BIG cold streaks for the user and the cpu won't miss. It is as if the game ignores attribute ratings sometimes.

But playing on pro is also frustrating. Cpu takes to many threes, never finishes a play, heaves up a last second shot with the worst possible player. It seems as if the game ignores tendencies sometimes.

[jmarcguy]

Re: For a realistic gameplay experience, try Pro/Default Slider settings

I tried a qtr on all star & CPU ball movement was outstanding!!! Much better flow. Not sure if I can win on this setting but it felt good.

[jmarcguy]

Re: For a realistic gameplay experience, try Pro/Default Slider settings

I'm really liking all star / default!!! Played the Heat & both Wade & James were aggressive. Lebron soared over everybody to put in a miss & it was an animation I hadn't seen before. I only played into the 2nd qtr but I really had to battle to stay close.

[STLRams]

Re: For a realistic gameplay experience, try Pro/Default Slider settings

I urge everyone to play the same team twice on pro then allstar. The cpu plays so much smarter on allstar and aggressively. Stars shine on allstar. The problem is that allstar can sometimes have BIG cold streaks for the user and the cpu won't miss. It is as if the game ignores attribute ratings sometimes.

But playing on pro is also frustrating. Cpu takes to many threes, never finishes a play, heaves up a last second shot with the worst possible player. It seems as if the game ignores tendencies sometimes.

Might have to give this a try with some minor slider/settings tweaks. I've been playing on Pro default, I like it but it just feels like something is missing or doesn't quite feel right, not sure if its the ball movement or the clutter in the paint or what?

[jmarcguy]

Re: For a realistic gameplay experience, try Pro/Default Slider settings

I'm going to tweak some things on all star but it felt really good.

[STLRams]

Re: For a realistic gameplay experience, try Pro/Default Slider settings

Finally tried a game on Allstar default. Played against Orlando - ball movement was very good and the CPU offense was aggresive. Saw some moves pulled off by the CPU that I don't normally see on Pro level. My only gripe so far is the D. Howard only attempted 5 shots the entire game, he didn't look to score alot and the CPU offense was not feeding him the ball. For once this isn't a tendency issue, because I checked the tendencies and he is set at 88 shot tendency and the Orlando Coaching slider for feeding the post was set at 99? It was only one game though so it is hard to judge/compare Allstar default to Pro default, I need to play a few more games and maybe tweak the sliders a bit.

[bfrombleacher]

Re: For a realistic gameplay experience, try Pro/Default Slider settings

I've been switching back and forth between Pro, Allstar, and Superstar. Pro seems less annoying because a big factor this year in adding to the difficulty is the rubber banding, meaning the computer would shoot better and you shoot worse for an extended period of time or vice versa. It has been there in years past, but it is very noticeable this year. Those times when you miss like four jumpers in a row, and could've sworn you shot some of them right? You probably did.

The reason is this: past years have been too easy. How many of use could blow out the other team on Hall of Fame in 2k11 or 2k10? I certainly could, and I'm betting most who've played 2k for years could, too. So this year the rubber banding was emphasized to keep games close, along with the usual computer playing better and your guys playing worse.

Pro is less annoying to me because the rubberbanding either isn't there or is barely there. When the cpu scores, its more like "well played" than "that's cheap". For 2k13 and beyond, it would be great if the difficulty was ramped up because the cpu is playing that much better, and not so much based on rubber banding or dumbing down your teammates. Teams go on runs in real life, and maybe they were trying to emulate that, but it feels very artificial this year. I wouldn't want them to think of rubber banding as the key to adding difficulty in future iterations.

That's why difficulty and sim should be split...until they can make the game difficult because the CPU plays smart, why not give sim junkies their fill, rather than force them have to play on the easiest setting and play against a dumb CPU.

[spankdatazz22]

Re: For a realistic gameplay experience, try Pro/Default Slider settings

After playing the game a ton since release I'd have to say Pro definitely seems to be the way to go. I like the cpu aggressive play on All-Star/SIM but the rubberbanding can get frustrating. Hoping 2K can limit the amount of cheating the cpu will do on All-Star and above with a future patch. In the meantime, I've found a great sweet spot on Pro.

One change I recently made has given the game a whole new level of enjoyment for me. On Pro/SIM but turned up the Offensive Awareness to 80 for hum/cpu and bumped up the Defensive Awareness slightly to 51. AND taking Czar's suggestion and turning ON full play diagrams while setting the cpu run plays option to Auto. Before I was playing with the play diagrams at Lite. With it on full it's easy to see how much I was actually breaking the plays being run. For people that don't know the playbooks/plays I highly recommend turning these options on. It really opens up a whole new level of strategy - even the defense on both teams play better, I guess because I'm no longer constantly breaking the play the cpu's trying to run. And they're far less intrusive visually than I thought they would be. I get the feeling a lot of people are essentially playing freestyle while trying to play SIM, which was easier to get away with in 2K11.

One quick story, was playing NBA Today game yesterday Bulls (me) vs. Trailblazers. cpu Aldridge was KILLING me inside and mid-range - loved it. I'd try to cheat down with my guard at times and he'd kick out to Mathews who'd hit a key shot or to Felton who was killing w/dribble penetration. Not sure if this would work in real life, but I stuck Noah on Aldridge and Boozer on Oden/Camby and Deng on Mathews while making slight adjustments up/down to coach options during timeouts. Just loved how I was able to really slow Aldridge down with Noah, and was able to freelance some with whoever was covering Oden or Camby because they're not much an offensive threat.

I'm a relative basketball novice when it comes to most people here and I know everyone's playing with his own super-modified rosters/slider sets or whatnot... but to me this game offers so much depth it's incredible.

[nogster]

Re: For a realistic gameplay experience, try Pro/Default Slider settings

Pro with "real %" on does play well.

But the broken cpu double team system and logic. [they never double hot players specifically in the post.... ever.] ruins the single player experience.