Jeremy Lin

[truegame2]

Re: Jeremy Lin

John Wall is no Jeremy Lin! Lin's turnover numbers are high because he has the ball on every possession with the Knicks running nothing but pick and rolls all game long. He is the only Knicks player who can create his own shot until Melo returns. He played like 46 minutes against Dallas. 7 turnovers, 1 every 6 minutes isn't all that bad considering how much time he has ball dribbling around and stuff.

John Wall is no Jeremy Lin? If, the Knicks had Wall it would be over!

[Goffs]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Despite all the turnovers he's bought back the excitement to the Garden and some wins and that to me is what matters....

I'm just worried that D'antoni will wear the poor kid out....

[Pitfighter87]

Re: Jeremy Lin

John Wall is no Jeremy Lin! Lin's turnover numbers are high because he has the ball on every possession with the Knicks running nothing but pick and rolls all game long. He is the only Knicks player who can create his own shot until Melo returns. He played like 46 minutes against Dallas. 7 turnovers, 1 every 6 minutes isn't all that bad considering how much time he has ball dribbling around and stuff.

Put Jeremy Lin on the Wizards and out of Mike Dantonis offense and im not so sure we'd even be haven the J.Lin discussion.I agree the kid can play but he's playin in a PG's dream offense.John Wall isnt running pick and roll everytime down the court he's given it to Young or Crawford off of screens and ISO's.Walls 17 points and 7 ast isnt nothin to sleep on,on a team thats second best player is Nick Young or Javale McGee.

[fluent2332]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Honestly, it's probably too early to say this, but after watching Lin a little bit, I'd say he's just as good as John Wall, if not better.

He makes his teammates better, has top notch court vision, is a good shooter and plays good defense too. He's also clutch and scores big in 4th quarters of games. Lin is the real deal. It's still early in his career but he is looking like a very good player. We'll just have to wait and see if he can keep up this crazy production. 24 PPG and 9 APG is just crazy.

[bballplayer1996]

Re: Jeremy Lin

i dont care about lin

durant...nuff said.

[DakkoN]

Re: Jeremy Lin

i dont care about lin

durant...nuff said.

If you don't care about Lin, then why would you post in a thread titled "Jeremy Lin"? Nice logic there, pal.

Durant is 6'10", can handle the ball like a PG, and was the #2 overall pick.. He's expected to be a beast.. A chinese player that played ball at Harvard and was undrafted, not so much. Let Lin have his moment in the spotlight..

[CUTigers2324]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Personally, what's been lost here is how Novakular this Linsanity's been. I think ol' Steve's in line for a bit of a ratings touch up himself. He's one of the worst players in all of 2K right now! Dude at least deserves to break 60.

[slimm44]

Re: Jeremy Lin

I said goodbye, but I missed you guys so much I had to peek my head in again. When I saw people saying he deserved to be rated in the mid-80's and that 2k has given him an Offensive Awareness rating of 92, I couldn't resist.

Without further ado, if I was going to update Lin in my roster set, which I'm not going to yet because it's still not been enough games, this is what his ratings/tendencies would look like on his streak:

Inside Shot 57% = 65 (Would need to be a 93 to work with 2k's sim-engine because they used a scale that's way too low)
Close Shot 42% = 81
Mid Range Shot 40% = 80 (This is a projected rating. He is shooting 63% from 16-23 feet this year which equals to somewhere around 126 on 2k's scale but on 1.6 shots per game from that distance. There is no way he continues that long-term.)
3PT Shot 32% = 75
Layup = 75
Dunk = 55
Shoot In Traffic = 75
Passing (Assist %) 43 = 90 (This is a projected rating. His Assist % is at 50 right now but I don't know if he sustains that over the course of a season. With an assist % of 43 he will hand out assists at the same rate as Deron Williams, Chris Paul, and Tony Parker. During this streak he has generated an assist % of 50 which would give him a 99 rating in passing, statistically speaking.)
Steal (Steal %) 2.9 = 72
Block (Block %) .6 = 31
On Ball Defense = 70 (Slightly under league average for PG's)
Off Reb (Off Reb %) 2.5 = 36
Def Reb (Def Reb %) 10.3 = 50
Offensive Awareness = 75 (Potential All-Star)
Defensive Awareness = 65 (Average)
Offensive Clutch = 75
Defensive Clutch = 65
Potential = 75 (Potential All-Star)
Consistency = 75 (Potential All-Star)
Speed = 85
Quickness = 85
Strength = 40 (League Average for PG's)
Off-Hand Dribbling = 85
Ball Security = 65 (Maybe 55. He's averaging just under 6 TO per game in the last 9 games while playing an avg. of 36-38MPG. That's pretty high.)

Take Shot Tendency (16FGA/36MPG) 50
Inside Shot Tendency 75
Close Shot Tendency 47
Mid Range Shot Tendency 30
3PT Shot Tendency 28
Touches Tendency 31 (Usage %)

This would give him an overall rating of 68 with tendencies and ratings that work with 2k's simulation engine. The only two flawed statistical ratings are Inside Shot (2k's sim engine would have to have a 95 in this rating to sim at 57%) and Blocking.

[Fly3]

Re: Jeremy Lin

^Great breakdown. We need more posts like that in this thread.

[bballplayer1996]

Re: Jeremy Lin

If you don't care about Lin, then why would you post in a thread titled "Jeremy Lin"? Nice logic there, pal.

Durant is 6'10", can handle the ball like a PG, and was the #2 overall pick.. He's expected to be a beast.. A chinese player that played ball at Harvard and was undrafted, not so much. Let Lin have his moment in the spotlight..

oh i didnt notice this was a lin thread. sorry

[DJ]

Re: Jeremy Lin

I played the Mavs-Knicks game yesterday using the latest 2K roster update (J.R. Smith) and lost 99-92. It was a good game but man, I couldn't hit anything with Lin. I think I finished 3-of-17 for 11 points (had 8 assists). I know he's not a sharpshooter from 3, but I missed 4 wide-open looks (I use Real FG% and the 3-pt. slider was at 50).

Could've just been an off night in the video game realm, I suppose.

[truegame2]

Re: Jeremy Lin

I played the Mavs-Knicks game yesterday using the latest 2K roster update (J.R. Smith) and lost 99-92. It was a good game but man, I couldn't hit anything with Lin. I think I finished 3-of-17 for 11 points (had 8 assists). I know he's not a sharpshooter from 3, but I missed 4 wide-open looks (I use Real FG% and the 3-pt. slider was at 50).

Could've just been an off night in the video game realm, I suppose.

I've only hit one jump shot with Griffin, his shot doesn't fall unless I do a floating hook or turnaround back to the basket shot. I've yet to see anyone hit one outside the circle. I've played a few players that knew how to shoot with Lin or anybody with a decent shot. You gotta master his release. In Griffins case, he just can't put enough on the ball to make a shot .He's shooting 51% 9-17 FG ( not all dunks) I think he should be MUCH better from mid range, especially from 12-15 feet.

[Pared]

Re: Jeremy Lin

There's a person in our league that can shoot just fine with Griffin.

[jersez]

Re: Jeremy Lin

Lin knows how to play ball, I watched his summer league highlights against John wall yesterday and I was really surprised that he didn't make the mavs roster. It just goes to show that most people cannot evaluate basketball talent properly, most people are caught up with how high someone can jump or how fast they are. I think a 75 is perfect for him for now. I hope 2k fixes his iso moves and sig shots because they aren't representing how explosive(changing speeds) and creative he is.

[fluent2332]

Re: Jeremy Lin

I said goodbye, but I missed you guys so much I had to peek my head in again. When I saw people saying he deserved to be rated in the mid-80's and that 2k has given him an Offensive Awareness rating of 92, I couldn't resist.

Without further ado, if I was going to update Lin in my roster set, which I'm not going to yet because it's still not been enough games, this is what his ratings/tendencies would look like on his streak:

Inside Shot 57% = 65 (Would need to be a 93 to work with 2k's sim-engine because they used a scale that's way too low)
Close Shot 42% = 81
Mid Range Shot 40% = 80 (This is a projected rating. He is shooting 63% from 16-23 feet this year which equals to somewhere around 126 on 2k's scale but on 1.6 shots per game from that distance. There is no way he continues that long-term.)
3PT Shot 32% = 75
Layup = 75
Dunk = 55
Shoot In Traffic = 75
Passing (Assist %) 43 = 90 (This is a projected rating. His Assist % is at 50 right now but I don't know if he sustains that over the course of a season. With an assist % of 43 he will hand out assists at the same rate as Deron Williams, Chris Paul, and Tony Parker. During this streak he has generated an assist % of 50 which would give him a 99 rating in passing, statistically speaking.)
Steal (Steal %) 2.9 = 72
Block (Block %) .6 = 31
On Ball Defense = 70 (Slightly under league average for PG's)
Off Reb (Off Reb %) 2.5 = 36
Def Reb (Def Reb %) 10.3 = 50
Offensive Awareness = 75 (Potential All-Star)
Defensive Awareness = 65 (Average)
Offensive Clutch = 75
Defensive Clutch = 65
Potential = 75 (Potential All-Star)
Consistency = 75 (Potential All-Star)
Speed = 85
Quickness = 85
Strength = 40 (League Average for PG's)
Off-Hand Dribbling = 85
Ball Security = 65 (Maybe 55. He's averaging just under 6 TO per game in the last 9 games while playing an avg. of 36-38MPG. That's pretty high.)

Take Shot Tendency (16FGA/36MPG) 50
Inside Shot Tendency 75
Close Shot Tendency 47
Mid Range Shot Tendency 30
3PT Shot Tendency 28
Touches Tendency 31 (Usage %)

This would give him an overall rating of 68 with tendencies and ratings that work with 2k's simulation engine. The only two flawed statistical ratings are Inside Shot (2k's sim engine would have to have a 95 in this rating to sim at 57%) and Blocking.

It's cool that you've taken the time to do his ratings, but in my opinion you are severely underrating Lin. I disagree with many of your ratings. Lin is the real deal and is definitely higher than a 68 overall. He's more like an 80-84 range. I know overall rating isn't everything, but in this case, his individual ratings are much higher than what you're giving him credit for.