Bedwardsroy19 30-Team Control Association Guide/Discussion

[volstopfan14]

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I want to start a 30 team assoc. playing with Minn. I'm probably going to blow them up. Does Beasley (74) for Kaman (72) straight seem fair? NO gets rid of a guy they're shopping IRL, add another scorer and get younger. Minn gets a nice upgrade at C and free up the 3 so Williams can start.



I'd say start Williams and let Wes be the 6th man.

Either way would work. Most people think Johnson would be better at the 3. That is why I mentioned that.

At this point, I think Johnson or Beasley for Kaman is pretty fair. NOH isn't going to get mcuh more and there is no chance that he re-signs.

[bhzmfia14]

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I'm looking to possibly move Rudy Gay in my Grizz franchise.

I'm really looking for depth and enough cap space to re-sign OJ, Arthur and possibly Speights in the off-season without hitting the luxury tax.

I don't necessarily need a replacement at SF because I would probably move OJ to the starting 2 and play Tony Allen at the 3. Just looking to fill out my bench and possibly get one key guy that could start, but come off the bench for instant offense. Also looking for guys that fit into the Grizz defensive mind set.

[ballsohard]

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I think it's a fair trade just based on skill, I'm just not sure any young team without much chemistry is interested in including Beasley in their future plans. I see Beasley more as a guy who's the last piece on a veteran contender. A sort of wildcard that a veteran team takes a gamble on to try and win it all, a la Artest with the Lakers two years ago. I know Beasley is much younger, but I think he's viewed as such a cancer that young teams (or young teams with smart GM's at least) just wouldn't be willing to take a chance on him. I think he's a guy who will have to sign a short term deal and prove he can be a difference maker before he gets locked into a long term situation.

Fair enough.

[BasedTaylor]

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Either way would work. Most people think Johnson would be better at the 3. That is why I mentioned that.

At this point, I think Johnson or Beasley for Kaman is pretty fair. NOH isn't going to get mcuh more and there is no chance that he re-signs.

Would you see NOH moving Aminu to the starter at PF (Laundry 6th man) or maybe moving Beasley to the 4? NOH also has Ariza. I guess they could rotate em all between the 3 and the 4 for some versatility and depth.

[Slyone14]

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Either way would work. Most people think Johnson would be better at the 3. That is why I mentioned that.

At this point, I think Johnson or Beasley for Kaman is pretty fair. NOH isn't going to get mcuh more and there is no chance that he re-signs.

Cool, thanks man gonna trade johnson for kaman, i really like it for both teams and they need a c more i can try to sign mayo for them in the offseason. Thanks.

Btw, would u please comment on the jazz and celtics trade? I need opinions. No real negatives so i assume its fair.

[volstopfan14]

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Would you see NOH moving Aminu to the starter at PF (Laundry 6th man) or maybe moving Beasley to the 4? NOH also has Ariza. I guess they could rotate em all between the 3 and the 4 for some versatility and depth.

I'm not sure who would start. Jason Smith would likely move to the backup C spot and you could roate Aminu, Ariza, Beasley, and Landry at the 3 and 4. I'd probably put Beasley at the 4 over Aminu, but you could do it any way really.

[volstopfan14]

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Here is a trade i pulled and turned out well in game and improved both because kanter was doing soo well. As was millsap.

Jazz trade

Devon harris
Al jefferson
13 first rounder

Celtics trade

Rondo
Chris wilcox more capspace.
Jermaine o'neal. Serious capspace for me.

Before i pull off this trade, any opinions? I think its fair. Kanter is getting 8pg and 8 rpg with only 12 mpg. Derek Favors is having a freaking amazing year. I need a point creating pg and rondo will help with that. I am at 500, so might as well restructure and build. Celtics desperately need a center, all theres are struggling bad. The Celtics in my chise def is great, but they are struggling to score. This will help there offense. The first rounder will allow some rebuilding. D harris can score and create also. And finally we all know what Al can do.

Great trade for Utah. They have great depth at the 4 and 5 even without Jefferson. Rondo is a major improvement at PG. Player for player, the trade seems fair, but I don't know that Boston would do it in real life. They will have a ton of cap space plus Utah's pick in 2 years though and could build around Jefferson. I guess the question is, who would you rather build around? Jefferson or Rondo? Like I said, it seems fair, but I don't know that Boston would do it.

[Slyone14]

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Great trade for Utah. They have great depth at the 4 and 5 even without Jefferson. Rondo is a major improvement at PG. Player for player, the trade seems fair, but I don't know that Boston would do it in real life. They will have a ton of cap space plus Utah's pick in 2 years though and could build around Jefferson. I guess the question is, who would you rather build around? Jefferson or Rondo? Like I said, it seems fair, but I don't know that Boston would do it.

Is there anyone else u can think of for me to add in? I thought of throwing in millsap, but its too much. Maybe add burks, not sure. If u were the celtics what else would u require?

[volstopfan14]

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Is there anyone else u can think of for me to add in? I thought of throwing in millsap, but its too much. Maybe add burks, not sure. If u were the celtics what else would u require?

I don't think the trade is unfair, I'm just not sure that Boston wants to give up Rondo, if that makes any sense. I don't think Jefferson is really going to push them over the hump to where they can compete for a title this year so that isn't a huge factor. You would have to decide if you want Rondo or Jefferson to rebuild around for the future. It seems pretty fair for both sides. Both are similar players in that they are in that 2nd tier of players. Not elite, but very good. It seems pretty fair. I just don't see Boston trading Rondo unless they can get an elite player in real life.

[ballsohard]

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I don't see Boston trading Rondo for anyone, really. I know there was that rumor about Westbrook, but unless it's another young superstar to build around they won't make a move. And while Jefferson and Harris are nice players, they aren't the type you build around to win championships.

[Slyone14]

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Either way would work. Most people think Johnson would be better at the 3. That is why I mentioned that.

At this point, I think Johnson or Beasley for Kaman is pretty fair. NOH isn't going to get mcuh more and there is no chance that he re-signs.

I actually thought of a better trade.

Wesley johnson/tolliver

For

Thabeet/ jordan hill

U can even probably throw off tolliver

[Slyone14]

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I don't think the trade is unfair, I'm just not sure that Boston wants to give up Rondo, if that makes any sense. I don't think Jefferson is really going to push them over the hump to where they can compete for a title this year so that isn't a huge factor. You would have to decide if you want Rondo or Jefferson to rebuild around for the future. It seems pretty fair for both sides. Both are similar players in that they are in that 2nd tier of players. Not elite, but very good. It seems pretty fair. I just don't see Boston trading Rondo unless they can get an elite player in real life.

Yea, i hear u i think i will throw in a 12 second rounder. So they will get two draft picks, one from a stacked draft and a future lottery pick. They will get two picks in end of next season, which will really help.

I agree with everything u say man, just see more positives than negatives. Lets face it, centers are hard as hell to come by, and guys like jefferson even harder. I dont see boston being able to land a top center in free agency. Witu huge cap space coming with allen, and kg they can get a elite pg.

[volstopfan14]

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I actually thought of a better trade.

Wesley johnson/tolliver

For

Thabeet/ jordan hill

U can even probably throw off tolliver

I like this. Houston gets an upgrade at the 3. Johnson has some athleticism and potential. Hill is a solid role player at C and if Thabeet doesn't improve he's contract comes off the books next year anyway.

Yea, i hear u i think i will throw in a 12 second rounder. So they will get two draft picks, one from a stacked draft and a future lottery pick. They will get two picks in end of next season, which will really help.

I agree with everything u say man, just see more positives than negatives. Lets face it, centers are hard as hell to come by, and guys like jefferson even harder. I dont see boston being able to land a top center in free agency. Witu huge cap space coming with allen, and kg they can get a elite pg.

Yeah it's not unfair. A good PG is much easier to find than a C.

[Slyone14]

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I like this. Houston gets an upgrade at the 3. Johnson has some athleticism and potential. Hill is a solid role player at C and if Thabeet doesn't improve he's contract comes off the books next year anyway.

Yeah it's not unfair. A good PG is much easier to find than a C.

Should i add tolliver? Or no?

Btw man, as a huge cats fan how is it going? What have u done? After thinking of it, i would trade gerald henderson and a 13 first for the lottery pick.

I just like dj, is a good 2 and/or a 6th man. What is ur lineup?

[volstopfan14]

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Should i add tolliver? Or no?

Btw man, as a huge cats fan how is it going? What have u done? After thinking of it, i would trade gerald henderson and a 13 first for the lottery pick.

I just like dj, is a good 2 and/or a 6th man. What is ur lineup?

I don't know that Tolliver is needed. I' not sure where he gets playing time with Scola, Patterson, and Morris. I don't know what his contract situation is like so that could change things.

As of now, I haven't made any moves yet. I like DJ and Gerald, but I think I can upgrade them. DJ is playing pretty well but I don't want to give him a lot of money and I think he could get me a good player in a trade. I do enjoy a 2 PG offense though. Augustin and Walker are playing well together for me. I still haven't decided if I'll keep him or not. Henderson isn't bad, but I need some 3 point shooting. Right now the PGs are my only 3 point threats.

I'm really not sure what to do at PF/C. Mullens is a big question mark. I like his post game but he is a horrible defender and rebounder. Either I'll need to work on his defense in training camp or find a replacement. i think Biyombo and Thomas can be long term players for me. I really like some of the bigs in the next 13' and 14' draft classes so I could end up with a draft pick and Biyombo starting and Thomas as the first big off the bench. Unless I win the lottery, I doubt I'll take a big in the 12' draft class. DJ White could be a keeper as the 4th big unless I upgrade him in free agency. If I can trade Boris Diaw I likely will.

Right now Corey Maggette is playing poorly. I'd really like to get himm out. If I can't trade him I'll likely use the amnesty clause on him. Derrick Brown is playing well and I think he can be my backup 3. Harrison Barnes is my primary target for the draft. I think him and Kemba can be a legitemate 1-2 punch for a championship team. I've thought about going after Brad Beal to be my 6th man as well. I'd like to sign a vetern defensive specialtist to start at SG. I'm getting very little scoring from my wings and Barnes and Beal would be a MAJOR upgrade. If I was to win the lottery and take Davis, I could look at Quincy Miller with the 2nd pick. I really like Miller's game.

Sorry I went so long lol. You think these ideas can work? Any suggestions on what I could do?