Anybody else bothered by 2K's utter refusal to get sneakers right?

[TheAlmighty]

Re: Anybody else bothered by 2K's utter refusal to get sneakers right?

I think there is a huge misconception about sneakers, what us sneakerheads want, and why sneakers are important to us.

There are some of you who are close-minded/stubborn, and don't want to understand why sneaker culture is important, but I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt and assume that there are also some of you who are willing to try and see where we are coming from.

Basketball is a huge part of African-American culture, there is no denying it. The same can be said of sneakerhead culture as well as hip-hop. Majority of the NBA is made up of African-Americans.

Basketball, sneakers, and hip-hop are linked forever regardless of what anybody thinks to the contrary. These 3 elements are worldwide phenomenons now, and they aren't just limited to the poor black kids in the inner city any more. Everybody can enjoy them.

Why do you think you hear predominantly hip-hop music in the 2K menus and in-game arenas? Why is Jay-Z Executive Producing this years title?

Growing up in the hood meant having the latest and best sneakers as a form of expression on AND off the court. At the end of the day, that's what it's all about: Expression.

Matching sneakers with your outfit for the day, or matching them up with your basketball uniform and accessories in unique ways. It's just ingrained in the culture.

So naturally those of us who are passionate about this kind of thing want it to be done RIGHT or not done at all. We want our My Players to be able to wear the correct and accurate Air Jordans from that time period. Hell, we want the actual virtual version of JORDAN HIMSELF to be wearing his correct shoes in the proper colorways. It's not much to ask.

Yet for some reason, 2K seems to continually drop the ball, so I felt this thread is necessary. The good thing about 2K is, they've worked themselves into a position where us fans can complain about the small things like shoes, art, hairstyles, uniforms etc. because the actual gameplay is so good year after year.

So I feel justified in letting my voice be heard when it comes to sneakers. Sue me. No one put a gun to your head and said "Enter this thread".

so from your standpoint I would be annoyed too, but do you seriously consider it a gamebreaker?

No, I'm going to get the game regardless because it's a great basketball sim and I have fun with it. It's just insulting that they sign the greatest player to ever lace them up and then get his sneakers wrong.

You have to remember that there are licensing issues in play. It is entirely possible they arent able to secure the property rights to some of these shoes/brands, thus we have generic shoes. Its not like 2k is blatantly doing this to piss us off...legally they cant do it if they dont have the proper licensing.

I understand the licensing issues, but I should have been more clear in the original post.

They have a Nike/Jordan license, yet a lot of the shoes have incorrect coloring and colorblocking. That's my issue. Classic shoes being butchered when they already have the license to get it 100% right.

It would be like if the Celtics wore green away unis but instead of white names/numbers, 2K made the name/numbers green as well. It would look ugly and off and completely disrespectful to an iconic uniform and team.

Now imagine if 2k did that and then left it that way for 3 years...

No, but this thread infuriates me. It seems that along with the constant parade of the legends for the 25+ crew, the only other faction of the customer base that gets any worthwhile attention are the shoe fetishists, and I'm sorry I CANNOT call you anything other than that. To me, you are the equivalent of NBA players who wear glasses with NO SPECTACLES. You guys had a thread on here with scores of pages and it seemed with 2K12 that every update was just for a NEW SHOE and NOTHING ELSE.

I'm sorry but you're just going to have to get in line with the rest of us, Crewites, OA players, basketball fundamentalists, offline association players, online-only players etc. We're all vying to eat at the table with the master and enjoy any morsels of virtual delight that may come our way, AND WE'VE got bigger stomachs to fill. So no offense, but I think you should just be happy in the children's highchair, because at least 2K is paying attention to you. The rest of us are shunned, while the Legend Romantics are eating, drinking and being merry.

You have a way with words. I chuckled a little bit when reading that, but there is no reason we all can't eat and be merry. I want crew back also.

It's not just the fact that generics are used too often, but certain color combinations aren't possible at all (like AJ 11 Space Jams, Cement 4's, etc.). But like mentioned, at least you can assign real sneakers to players (although it takes a long time to assign a pair to every player).

I try not to complain or start threads about this kind of stuff (aka crew complaints), but it's good to know someone else finds it just as annoying as I do.

Exactly.

And I made the thread for that reason - people are scared to bring up the sneaker issue because of ridicule.

Female stuff. All I can really say about this.

That would make the majority of the NBA players females then too. They care just as much about what they wear on their feet (for fashion and function) as us sneakerheads do.

I guess you'd prefer we go back to the days of everybody running around in all white shoes for home and all black shoes for away.

I knew there would be atleast one overreaction to demo pics, just wait until final game to complain things may change, dont use " this is the final straw" have patience

I've done that for the past 2 games. I have a voice, why not use it?

[SPRINGS03]

Re: Anybody else bothered by 2K's utter refusal to get sneakers right?

The good thing about 2K is, they've worked themselves into a position where us fans can complain about the small things like shoes, art, hairstyles, uniforms etc. because the actual gameplay is so good year after year.

Eh, I disagree. There are plenty of things that need to improve with gameplay. It's far from flawless, good maybe. But not even close to what it COULD potentially be. So speak for yourself on that. I'd much rather them focus on gameplay than sneakers. And i understand that sneaker culture is important to some(especially sneakerheads) but, how the game is actually played is WAY more important. Sneakers don't change the way the game is played, they're just a culture associated with basketball.

[TUSS11]

Re: Anybody else bothered by 2K's utter refusal to get sneakers right?

Art team works on art.

Gameplay team works on gameplay.

Is it that hard to understand?

[ecovyoudug]

Re: Anybody else bothered by 2K's utter refusal to get sneakers right?

I'm a pretty big sneaker head myself so I feel your pain. Like you're saying with these Olympic Jordans this isn't even a license issue because they were trying to make that shoe they just didn't create it correctly lol. They also need to add old school shoes if they're going to make old school players. There's a lot more they can do with shoes they just choose not to, maybe so they can save space for other areas in the game we may need more? I'm not sure but I can relate to this thread.

[johnnyg713]

Re: Anybody else bothered by 2K's utter refusal to get sneakers right?

I was going to defend 2k on why they shouldn't waste time getting the shoes right, but then I remember that they have every player's tattoos correct... So if they spend the time doing that.... GET THE SHOES RIGHT 2K!

[Thunder Storm]

Re: Anybody else bothered by 2K's utter refusal to get sneakers right?

I think there is a huge misconception about sneakers, what us sneakerheads want, and why sneakers are important to us.

There are some of you who are close-minded/stubborn, and don't want to understand why sneaker culture is important, but I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt and assume that there are also some of you who are willing to try and see where we are coming from.

Basketball is a huge part of African-American culture, there is no denying it. The same can be said of sneakerhead culture as well as hip-hop. Majority of the NBA is made up of African-Americans.

Basketball, sneakers, and hip-hop are linked forever regardless of what anybody thinks to the contrary. These 3 elements are worldwide phenomenons now, and they aren't just limited to the poor black kids in the inner city any more. Everybody can enjoy them.

Why do you think you hear predominantly hip-hop music in the 2K menus and in-game arenas? Why is Jay-Z Executive Producing this years title?

Growing up in the hood meant having the latest and best sneakers as a form of expression on AND off the court. At the end of the day, that's what it's all about: Expression.

Matching sneakers with your outfit for the day, or matching them up with your basketball uniform and accessories in unique ways. It's just ingrained in the culture.

So naturally those of us who are passionate about this kind of thing want it to be done RIGHT or not done at all. We want our My Players to be able to wear the correct and accurate Air Jordans from that time period. Hell, we want the actual virtual version of JORDAN HIMSELF to be wearing his correct shoes in the proper colorways. It's not much to ask.

Yet for some reason, 2K seems to continually drop the ball, so I felt this thread is necessary. The good thing about 2K is, they've worked themselves into a position where us fans can complain about the small things like shoes, art, hairstyles, uniforms etc. because the actual gameplay is so good year after year.

So I feel justified in letting my voice be heard when it comes to sneakers. Sue me. No one put a gun to your head and said "Enter this thread".



No, I'm going to get the game regardless because it's a great basketball sim and I have fun with it. It's just insulting that they sign the greatest player to ever lace them up and then get his sneakers wrong.



I understand the licensing issues, but I should have been more clear in the original post.

They have a Nike/Jordan license, yet a lot of the shoes have incorrect coloring and colorblocking. That's my issue. Classic shoes being butchered when they already have the license to get it 100% right.

It would be like if the Celtics wore green away unis but instead of white names/numbers, 2K made the name/numbers green as well. It would look ugly and off and completely disrespectful to an iconic uniform and team.

Now imagine if 2k did that and then left it that way for 3 years...



You have a way with words. I chuckled a little bit when reading that, but there is no reason we all can't eat and be merry. I want crew back also.



Exactly.

And I made the thread for that reason - people are scared to bring up the sneaker issue because of ridicule.



That would make the majority of the NBA players females then too. They care just as much about what they wear on their feet (for fashion and function) as us sneakerheads do.

I guess you'd prefer we go back to the days of everybody running around in all white shoes for home and all black shoes for away.



I've done that for the past 2 games. I have a voice, why not use it?

I'm a sneaker head IN REAL LIFE and I still can't sympathize with you guys. I don't know any sneaker fanatic irl who cares about digital shoes on digital avatars.

ITS JUST A PIXEL, your fingertip is bigger than a 2K shoe.

[SteboSSK]

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I can feel and express that it is female stuff. Nobody accused you of not buying the game because of it but it is still female stuff. Cosmetics. I thought we were ball players over here. Not auditioning for Project Runway.



Like what? Play dress up with my digital basketball players?

Since when did being a sneakerhead become the equivalent of women's fashion? Either you are some backwoods redneck or have been living under a rock since MJ entered the league. Every major basketball media outlet showcases the latest sneakers of NBA players in some form or fashion. Once again, if this isnt a big deal to you why come into a thread to talk ish over the internet? Why troll a thread on a topic that means 0 to you?

[kmiree16]

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well now you're tailing off into semantic arguments.

The fact of the matter is the game looks REALLY great as is and the gameplay decent. It's not like the presentation isn't already amazing. There is a reason the biggest gripes about presentation nowadays is just ... shoes (smh).


No need for you to get defensive just because others don't have the same desire to play dress up.

Talk about tailing off into semantics lol

Anyway, like I stated in my previous post, I'm not even a sneaker head. I couldn't tell you 1 pair of jays from the next. But my point is that having correct gear is a part of presentation. The principle is the same. 2K is trying to replicate the NBA. How is having shoes that real NBA players wear in the game NOT a part of that? That's my point. To me, people expressing frustration over shoes not being correct is the same as players faces not being correct, or a court being the wrong color, or animations looking bad. All of that encompasses the purpose of NBA 2K video games: to replicate the NBA in video game world as best as possible. That includes EVERYTHING.

[Boilerbuzz]

Then why show up and post? Why do people act like an advertised part of the game cant be critique? No one in this thread is saying they aren't going to buy the game due some of the shoes being messed up, no one here has said that it's a dealbreaker, but people would like the details fixed when they have been ignored for 3 years straight. If shoes don't mean anything to you why post in the thread? Go do something more constructive with your time.

My only issue was the "utter refusal" stuff. As if they are just thumbing their noses at folks that care about shoes. You see I acknowledge it as a legit gripe. I just think some folks go a bit nuts about it.

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[Thunder Storm]

Re: Anybody else bothered by 2K's utter refusal to get sneakers right?

^^^ I look at it differently.

90% of the players in the league are not on shoe deals, they can wear addidas one game and nike the next. For 2K to go through all these players and assign the shoes they were its pointless. I agree that the MAIN guys who have shoe deals should have appropriate shoes but everyone else ? who cares ?

you can still go in and edit their shoes to real ones.

ALSO you are making a point about accurate shoes = realism, but there are people in this thread and forum who are not even asking for accurate shoes ... they just want more shoes ! which has nothing to do with accurate presentation, that's just dress up.

[blues rocker]

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i don't care about shoes...never did, never will. when i'm playing a basketball video game, the last thing i'm paying attention to are the shoes. all i care about is how the game plays.

i know some people get into the shoes and the various brands and whatnot, but i just could not care less. even in real life the last thing i care about are someone's shoes. first world problems. but, everyone's got their obsession - to each his own i guess.

[Da_Czar]

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I started playing these games when the players were sticks, centers dribbled the ball up the court, there was no post game , & the only plays I ran were the ones in my head!! What sneakers????? Honestly for me, I've never even thought of shoes. Long as the player models are fairly accurate & the gameplay is tight, I'm happy! Can't imagine even noticing shoes. Lol!!!

Amen Brother. I'm from that same imagination generation LOL. That said they should at least get the shoes they have license for correct. There is no excuse for that.

[TUSS11]

Re: Anybody else bothered by 2K's utter refusal to get sneakers right?

I'm a sneaker head IN REAL LIFE and I still can't sympathize with you guys. I don't know any sneaker fanatic irl who cares about digital shoes on digital avatars.

ITS JUST A PIXEL, your fingertip is bigger than a 2K shoe.

It makes a difference to some people. Besides, having the art team pay closer attention to shoes won't deduct resources from any other aspects of the game.

For those that don't notice small details like shoes, there's no need to post because it won't negatively affect you (unless you want other art-related areas improved).

[beast10]

Re: Anybody else bothered by 2K's utter refusal to get sneakers right?

Who cares about a shoe ?
We're playing the game for basketball not a fashion line.

[ecovyoudug]

Re: Anybody else bothered by 2K's utter refusal to get sneakers right?

I think most people are missing the point here, it's know need to keep going back and forth lol. Obviously if shoes didn't matter and wasn't a part of the NBA then they'd just go out there and play in socks right? So shoes definitely have a impact on the game irl, so why shouldn't it in a video game if they're trying to make the game like "Real Life Basketball" right? People get crazy shoe endorsement deals it's all part of the game man.