NBA 2K13 Screenshot Captures Kevin Durant's Signature Skills

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  • TheKasmar
    Pro
    • Aug 2009
    • 955

    #166
    Re: NBA 2K13 Screenshot Captures Kevin Durant's Signature Skills

    I hope fatigue will still be taken into account given the sig skills of certain players. While sig skills may be pointless to some, there are plenty of newcomers to the 2k series who will find this addition helpful.

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    • RyanFitzmagic
      MVP
      • Oct 2011
      • 1959

      #167
      Re: NBA 2K13 Screenshot Captures Kevin Durant's Signature Skills

      Originally posted by Biagas
      I think some role players could use more attention.
      Once again, if that's what 2K wants, then fire the dickhead working as the 2K Insider and hire someone with sense.

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      • stillfeelme
        MVP
        • Aug 2010
        • 2407

        #168
        Re: NBA 2K13 Screenshot Captures Kevin Durant's Signature Skills

        Originally posted by RyanFitzmagic
        I still don't understand why this can't be captured with ratings. What can signature skills do that player ratings cannot?
        I think it probably comes down to memory 30 new categories for each player for the whole league would be roughly 10,800 sig skill ratings for the whole league. I would guess that is the reason.

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        • Yungturbo
          Rookie
          • Sep 2011
          • 95

          #169
          He does have the best first step & cross over of any SF

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          • Thunder Storm
            Rookie
            • Dec 2010
            • 480

            #170
            Re: NBA 2K13 Screenshot Captures Kevin Durant's Signature Skills

            The funny thing about all of this is that there are people out there who are REALLY good at fixing ratings and the like. I have no idea why the 2K Insider still has a job. Others can do 100x better for free.
            2K teams : Rockets,Thunder
            222-34 online

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            • youALREADYknow
              MVP
              • Aug 2008
              • 3635

              #171
              Re: NBA 2K13 Screenshot Captures Kevin Durant's Signature Skills

              Originally posted by stillfeelme
              I think it probably comes down to memory 30 new categories for each player for the whole league would be roughly 10,800 sig skill ratings for the whole league. I would guess that is the reason.
              I doubt memory is an issue anywhere outside of the 3D In-Game Engine. Therefore we're talking about 24 players in the engine with boolean values (signature skills) instead of integers (abilities) or floating point numbers (attributes or tendencies).

              The most obvious answer is usually the right answer. Signature Skills were a design decision since the change/addition required resources to be spent on both the game UI and game engine.

              Some of us believe that it was a poor design decision and I personally agree with most of what RyanFitzmagic has said despite his somewhat over the top tone about the issue. It's a dumbed down version of what we already had and from everything we've heard so far there are only two parties that would benefit from the move: 1) casual gamers and 2) "The 2K Insider".

              The additional animations that were added to correspond with Signature Skills could have also been linked to thresholds in Attributes, Abilities, or Tendencies.

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              • JasonMartin
                Pro
                • May 2012
                • 977

                #172
                Re: NBA 2K13 Screenshot Captures Kevin Durant's Signature Skills

                Will 2K regulary update these signature skills? What if a not so famous like eg. Roger Mason Jr averages 5 putback dunks a game, can they add this skill? Will they?

                Or will they only update the famous teams and famous players?

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                • Thunder Storm
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 480

                  #173
                  Re: NBA 2K13 Screenshot Captures Kevin Durant's Signature Skills

                  Originally posted by JasonMartin
                  Will 2K regulary update these signature skills? What if a not so famous like eg. Roger Mason Jr averages 5 putback dunks a game, can they add this skill? Will they?

                  Or will they only update the famous teams and famous players?
                  what ...

                  edit : nvm. I just realized it was a hypothetical question.
                  2K teams : Rockets,Thunder
                  222-34 online

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                  • JasonMartin
                    Pro
                    • May 2012
                    • 977

                    #174
                    Re: NBA 2K13 Screenshot Captures Kevin Durant's Signature Skills

                    Glad you figured that out.

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                    • ojandpizza
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 29807

                      #175
                      Dude per 36 minutes does not mean "in the clutch" I don't know why you ever assumed that was the same thing?

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                      • threattonature
                        Pro
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 602

                        #176
                        I think some of these signature skills will be sort of pointless and unnecessary, but I'm looking forward to some of the other ones. In previous games there was no way to account for a point guard that does great at setting up his teammates and making them look better than they are. Or to account for what Tyson Chandler or Garnett or a Dwight Howard do on defense that makes their teammates look like better defenders.

                        To me signature skills should go beyond ratings for an individual player and should be more geared to the affect they have on teammates. I think a clutch rating should for a player should give a slight boost to his teammates in the clutch since those players usually draw more defense to them and create better opportunities for their team in the clutch. They should have a dunk one for players like Blake Griffin that gives his teammates a momentum boost or an overall boost for a minute or so after throwing down a monster dunk since you often see that in real life. Those are the ratings I'm looking more forward to seeing. Things that can't be encompassed by simple individual player ratings.

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                        • stillfeelme
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 2407

                          #177
                          Re: NBA 2K13 Screenshot Captures Kevin Durant's Signature Skills

                          Originally posted by ojandpizza
                          Dude per 36 minutes does not mean "in the clutch" I don't know why you ever assumed that was the same thing?

                          Did you even look it up there are two columns one is per 36 as in non clutch how does the player perform, the other one is clutch per 36 minutes. Read my post again and look up the link. What NBA.com did was show you both so you can compare. Clutch minutes are few because it only happens in the last 5 minutes when you are up by 5 or down by 5 and are actually playing. You will have only a few clutch minutes during a season if you are getting blown out or blowing out other teams you may not even be in the game so no clutch opportunity.

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                          • masterofpuppets242
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 2

                            #178
                            All lebron should get is the flopper skill..... :-)

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                            • RyanFitzmagic
                              MVP
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 1959

                              #179
                              Re: NBA 2K13 Screenshot Captures Kevin Durant's Signature Skills

                              Originally posted by threattonature
                              I think some of these signature skills will be sort of pointless and unnecessary, but I'm looking forward to some of the other ones. In previous games there was no way to account for a point guard that does great at setting up his teammates and making them look better than they are. Or to account for what Tyson Chandler or Garnett or a Dwight Howard do on defense that makes their teammates look like better defenders.
                              Yes there was. They're called ratings.

                              Originally posted by threattonature
                              To me signature skills should go beyond ratings for an individual player and should be more geared to the affect they have on teammates. I think a clutch rating should for a player should give a slight boost to his teammates in the clutch since those players usually draw more defense to them and create better opportunities for their team in the clutch.
                              So how exactly is that not capable of being represented by ratings? I'm still waiting for an answer to this question.

                              Originally posted by threattonature
                              They should have a dunk one for players like Blake Griffin that gives his teammates a momentum boost or an overall boost for a minute or so after throwing down a monster dunk since you often see that in real life.
                              The game already has a momentum system like that.

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                              • DatGD12guage
                                Pro
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 572

                                #180
                                Re: NBA 2K13 Screenshot Captures Kevin Durant's Signature Skills

                                Originally posted by youALREADYknow
                                Most of these skills are dumbed-down gimmicks.

                                Giving a player a Clutch "skill" while others don't have it is no different than giving those same players a Offensive Clutch rating of 75 while giving everyone else 25.

                                The difference is that we lose the ability to scale and therefore lose control over the effect from player to player.

                                All we can hope for now is that there are sliders or another way to configure the impact.
                                Hold up now cuzo we do have to get a definition as to what these skills are so I wouldnt jump the gun. Clutch could just simply mean that players will get the clutch player the ball or run a play for that player in a clutch situation at the last seconds of the game. It cant be that simple, I'm sure it had to cross their mind that wait........why do we need a sig clutch skill if there is a clutch rating.

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