Has Reggie Miller been confirmed?

[Wildcats302]

Re: Has Reggie Miller been confirmed?

As a Laker fan I gotta disagree with the Vol fan poster. I remember the Pacers series as much memorable and tough for my team 12 years later as they almost took us to 7...they "could" have beat my Lakers if a few plays went differently in Game 4 or Game 6...who knows.

The only thing I remember about the 76ers series is my Lakers choking away a big lead early on in Game then going down big, then coming back to take it to OT and then losing in OT to prevent an epic undefeated playoff run. That series was never in doubt even after Game 1 though, as the 76ers had Iverson and Mutombo and that is about it.

[Ejfalcon9]

Re: Has Reggie Miller been confirmed?

You really have to ask yourself that question?

Because he's The Answer.

You got that right my man. The Answer has returned to HIS game.

[beast10]

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I think I'm not going to be able to do this with NBA 2K13 then .. Reggie Miller up the court he shoots!
SPPPPLLLLAAAAAAAASHHH!

[Saturnis]

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Can somebody explain the fascination with including Reggie Miller in these games? Is it just because everybody else from the 90's is in there and you just want him in there so there isn't a big name missing.

- There are no "legendary" Pacers teams. That might anger some Pacers fan who has fond memories of the 90's with Reggie Miller, but its the truth. There were some decent teams in the 90's but the Pacers were largely irrelevant much like Alonzo Mourning & Tim Hardaway's Heat teams.

& Reggie's key moment of his career (The Choke Game) involves something that can't be re-created playing a full game. As mentioned above, he'd be best included if 2K had their own version of a Madden Live Moment.

Im buying the game with or without Reggie being included.

Because Reggie is a Hall of Famer who doesn't get his due because he was in Indiana for his whole career. I don't see why he is left out because his teams weren't legendary. How are the 90's Magic legendary? 90's Warriors and Kings? 80's Hawks, 90's Cav's, 90's Hornets? I don't see how all those are more legendary than the Pacers. Reggie deserves to be in the game just as much as A.I. does.

You really have to ask yourself that question?

Because he's The Answer.



See, I knew someone would start up comparing apples to oranges.

That '01 Sixers team is in the game because they were an amazing run of 1 man carrying an entire team further than they possibly should've gone. It was a memorable run that is still remembered a decade later. If you asked any casual NBA fan who the Lakers beat in their 3Peat, they will mention AI's 76ers 10/10 times. Nothing wrong with being remembered for losing a NBA Finals to a historically great team in the Finals. Why else do you think they included 2 incarnations of the Jazz?

You're trying to spark up an argument but I'm going to leave it like this.

- Allen Iverson was a better player than Reggie Miller, & his legacy is greater than that of Reggie Miller.

- The 2001 76ers are a far more relevant team than any Pacers squad that Reggie Miller played on during his career. The 2001 76ers defeated the defending EC champs in Indiana with Reggie playing.

There were other great memorable runs as well, 04 Pistons are more legendary than the one man band Sixers, yet they aren't in the game. Plus the Pacers whooped the Sixers the prior year, what's your point? Allen was a very good little man player, but if i was starting a team i would obviously choose Reggie. So you're right this is apples and oranges. Reggie was the better player, and springfield also agrees with me.

[JwP23]

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Can somebody explain the fascination with including Reggie Miller in these games? Is it just because everybody else from the 90's is in there and you just want him in there so there isn't a big name missing.

- There are no "legendary" Pacers teams. That might anger some Pacers fan who has fond memories of the 90's with Reggie Miller, but its the truth. There were some decent teams in the 90's but the Pacers were largely irrelevant much like Alonzo Mourning & Tim Hardaway's Heat teams.

& Reggie's key moment of his career (The Choke Game) involves something that can't be re-created playing a full game. As mentioned above, he'd be best included if 2K had their own version of a Madden Live Moment.

Im buying the game with or without Reggie being included.

If you're buying the game whether Reggie is included or not, then why do you even care about his involvement by writing this pointless comment? You clearly have a gripe about people giving Reggie Miller some respect for some reason but nobody says they won't buy the game unless he's in it so I don't really understand the problem you're having with. As you said, maybe some fans want him so no big names are missing but many people including myself want him so we can relive the past with highly advanced technology.

You really have to ask yourself that question?

Because he's The Answer.

[beast10]

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The teams are for match-ups thats why the Magic,Cavs, and Hornets etc. are in the game.

[yellow86]

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I do think it would be nice to have the Pacers included and not because of Reggie Miller at all. They had some good teams with several good players and memorable playoff series unlike some teams that were included before.

I hope with the inclusion of the 2001 sixers we might see a late 90s / early 2000s Pacers along with some other teams from 00-04 era like:
- 2002 Magic with T-mac
- 2000 Jailblazers with Pippen
- 2002-2004 Rockets with Yao, Steve & Cat
- 2000 / 2001 Raptors with Vince and co.

It would be nice to have a few young stars like Tracy, Rasheed, Vince, Francis, Cat, Yao and them as many are (close to) retired.

What would be nice is a Classics association / season in most / all cities are represented with their best team. When there's more teams like Lakers & Knicks at the moment you can pick and then see who's the best of the past.

Also I hope this year you can edit the roster because many of us are very picky and despite them getting many players in (8-13), I want all of them in. It would be nice to be able to fill it the roster with players that were actually on the team and not those generic number 99 Johnson and whoever (who seemed to play very well on some teams). So to be able to edit them would already be a huge upgrade over last year. Also you should be able to have all the players on classic teams in blacktop / streets mode. That's something I also really missed. Such a minor thing, to give us the freedom to use the players in most modes possible.

[alecast]

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I do think it would be nice to have the Pacers included and not because of Reggie Miller at all. They had some good teams with several good players and memorable playoff series unlike some teams that were included before.

I hope with the inclusion of the 2001 sixers we might see a late 90s / early 2000s Pacers along with some other teams from 00-04 era like:
- 2002 Magic with T-mac
- 2000 Jailblazers with Pippen
- 2002-2004 Rockets with Yao, Steve & Cat
- 2000 / 2001 Raptors with Vince and co.

It would be nice to have a few young stars like Tracy, Rasheed, Vince, Francis, Cat, Yao and them as many are (close to) retired.

What would be nice is a Classics association / season in most / all cities are represented with their best team. When there's more teams like Lakers & Knicks at the moment you can pick and then see who's the best of the past.

Also I hope this year you can edit the roster because many of us are very picky and despite them getting many players in (8-13), I want all of them in. It would be nice to be able to fill it the roster with players that were actually on the team and not those generic number 99 Johnson and whoever (who seemed to play very well on some teams). So to be able to edit them would already be a huge upgrade over last year. Also you should be able to have all the players on classic teams in blacktop / streets mode. That's something I also really missed. Such a minor thing, to give us the freedom to use the players in most modes possible.

The ability to edit and trade classic players is essential and should be included in the game without having to get the DLC, like in 2k12.
I only bought the DLC last year to trade the players and to support 2k, since their idea of including such legendary teams was something to behold.
Also, one minor thing I have always felt should be included in the game is the possibility of customizing a season and choosing the number of teams that will be playing the season.
NBA Live used to let us play a season with as many teams as we wanted.
And why am I saying it? Because I love playing the legendary squads, but can`t start a season only with legendary teams because the game does not allow me to play, for example, with 18 teams only. I know you can include the classic squads in a season, but that is not enough, because to play a 30 team season you either have to mix the classic teams with the current teams or you`ll have to use 3 bulls teams, 2 lakers teams, and so on, to fill all the 30 spots. That is not realistic.
So, how do you feel about that?
And yes, Indiana should be included in the game, they were a very important team in the 90, without a doubt.

[Coach2K]

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Can somebody explain the fascination with including Reggie Miller in these games? Is it just because everybody else from the 90's is in there and you just want him in there so there isn't a big name missing.

- There are no "legendary" Pacers teams. That might anger some Pacers fan who has fond memories of the 90's with Reggie Miller, but its the truth. There were some decent teams in the 90's but the Pacers were largely irrelevant much like Alonzo Mourning & Tim Hardaway's Heat teams.

As a Pacer fan, I rarely care when the latest superstar becomes a free agent. The reason, because none of the superstars are ever going to step up to the microphone and state: "I want to go to Indiana. It's been my dream to be a Pacer all my life."

The media is never going to start rumors about the current great superstar coming to Indiana. Why? Because they want him to go to New York, LA, Chicago, etc. and that's why they begin the rumors to begin with.

So when a team like Indiana makes it to multiple conference finals and to the finals as well where no superstars want to play only to get beat by the New York's, the Chicago's and the LA's is the reason Reggie deserves more credit than he gets.

And why, he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame as well as the game.

[Wildcats302]

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As a Pacer fan, I rarely care when the latest superstar becomes a free agent. The reason, because none of the superstars are ever going to step up to the microphone and state: "I want to go to Indiana. It's been my dream to be a Pacer all my life."

The media is never going to start rumors about the current great superstar coming to Indiana. Why? Because they want him to go to New York, LA, Chicago, etc. and that's why they begin the rumors to begin with.

So when a team like Indiana makes it to multiple conference finals and to the finals as well where no superstars want to play only to get beat by the New York's, the Chicago's and the LA's is the reason Reggie deserves more credit than he gets.

And why, he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame as well as the game.

Agreed. Like I said, as a Laker fan, I respected and feared Reggie's Pacers far more than Iverson's 76ers in the NBA Finals played against each.

And on the Iverson vs. Miller debate. A couple of interesting stats.

Miller played in 1389 games to Iverson's 914 so there is a big reason why Reggie has scored more total points than Iverson in his career. The interesting thing is this. Iverson has some 19000+ times in those 914 games played with a .42% FG and .31% 3PT percentages to Miller's 17000+ times in 1389 games with a .47% FG and .395% 3PT percentages. I just wondered how many points Miller would have averaged per game if he jacked up as many shots as Mr. Volume Shooter did his whole career.

[heyyyyyyymacarena]

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You really have to ask yourself that question?

Because he's The Answer.



See, I knew someone would start up comparing apples to oranges.

That '01 Sixers team is in the game because they were an amazing run of 1 man carrying an entire team further than they possibly should've gone. It was a memorable run that is still remembered a decade later. If you asked any casual NBA fan who the Lakers beat in their 3Peat, they will mention AI's 76ers 10/10 times. Nothing wrong with being remembered for losing a NBA Finals to a historically great team in the Finals. Why else do you think they included 2 incarnations of the Jazz?

You're trying to spark up an argument but I'm going to leave it like this.

- Allen Iverson was a better player than Reggie Miller, & his legacy is greater than that of Reggie Miller.

- The 2001 76ers are a far more relevant team than any Pacers squad that Reggie Miller played on during his career. The 2001 76ers defeated the defending EC champs in Indiana with Reggie playing.

For one thing you are offering your opinion as fact. There does not exist a database to judge whos legacy is better than others. For example while mj has 6 champoinships so does Kareem but Bill Russell has more than them.

For you to say AI is has a better legacy than reggie is an opinion offered by you stated as a fact. Both went to the finals and did not prevail. That was the highlight of their career. Further there are a very large number of legends that failed to get past the bulls in the mid 90s. Karl, John, Clyde, Charles, Gary, Reggie, Patrick, Dominique etc.

[2k10Fonzarelli]

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I was going to ask for his scientific evidence on the matter.

Maybe thats no longer necessary.

[Rosebud]

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Agreed. Like I said, as a Laker fan, I respected and feared Reggie's Pacers far more than Iverson's 76ers in the NBA Finals played against each.

And on the Iverson vs. Miller debate. A couple of interesting stats.

Miller played in 1389 games to Iverson's 914 so there is a big reason why Reggie has scored more total points than Iverson in his career. The interesting thing is this. Iverson has some 19000+ times in those 914 games played with a .42% FG and .31% 3PT percentages to Miller's 17000+ times in 1389 games with a .47% FG and .395% 3PT percentages. I just wondered how many points Miller would have averaged per game if he jacked up as many shots as Mr. Volume Shooter did his whole career.

FYI....you should be able to impute that # by collecting a few more inputs and then doing a little bit of math.

[BegBy]

Can somebody explain the fascination with including Reggie Miller in these games? Is it just because everybody else from the 90's is in there and you just want him in there so there isn't a big name missing.

- There are no "legendary" Pacers teams. That might anger some Pacers fan who has fond memories of the 90's with Reggie Miller, but its the truth. There were some decent teams in the 90's but the Pacers were largely irrelevant much like Alonzo Mourning & Tim Hardaway's Heat teams.

& Reggie's key moment of his career (The Choke Game) involves something that can't be re-created playing a full game. As mentioned above, he'd be best included if 2K had their own version of a Madden Live Moment.

Im buying the game with or without Reggie being included.

As a life long Pacers fan, I have to agree. We had a couple of good runs and some truly great rivalry games, but no legendary teams. Not by a long shot

Reggie was the man, though, and I'd love to see his digital likeness in a 2k game.

SG3/Tapatalk 2

[btrapp]

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For one thing you are offering your opinion as fact. There does not exist a database to judge whos legacy is better than others. For example while mj has 6 champoinships so does Kareem but Bill Russell has more than them.

For you to say AI is has a better legacy than reggie is an opinion offered by you stated as a fact. Both went to the finals and did not prevail. That was the highlight of their career. Further there are a very large number of legends that failed to get past the bulls in the mid 90s. Karl, John, Clyde, Charles, Gary, Reggie, Patrick, Dominique etc.

I think iverson has done more in his career than miller. Remember, A.I. was regular season mvp, a multi time scoring and steals champ, and 11 time allstar.