Is the Self Alley-Oop an Issue?

[plzwork12]

Actually it's not the same philosophy because half court shots are attempted way more than self alley oops. My issue is not with players with a high dunk rating pulling them off. It's more about me being worried about seeing it happen too much. When it's extremely rare to see in an nba game(far more rare than half court shots).

I said go in, not be attempted. It barely happens, so why have it possible in the game?

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[WarriorPrince]

Re: Is the Self Alley-Oop an Issue?

LOL look at all u noobz complaing bout self alley oop. dis aint real basketball dis a game. yall just mad im gunna do a self alley and spin dunk all day online and aint nuthin u could do to stop meh. im de best at 2K. spin dunk, hop step, self alley opp all day sun!!!

I think you are joking, so I'm just gonna assume you were indeed being satirical to spare some of my hope in humanity..........

[pegout]

Re: Is the Self Alley-Oop an Issue?

LOL look at all u noobz complaing bout self alley oop. dis aint real basketball dis a game. yall just mad im gunna do a self alley and spin dunk all day online and aint nuthin u could do to stop meh. im de best at 2K. spin dunk, hop step, self alley opp all day sun!!!

Late candidate for post of the year? Post of the month for sure

[Fly3]

Re: Is the Self Alley-Oop an Issue?

It's nice that it's in the game, but it's success rate should be lowered. Even on an one-on-zero fast break, the success rate should be somewhere around 60%, give or take some. So easy to screw up that pass off the backboard.

Strongly disagree with the guys who say it should not be in the game, though. So Shaq shouldn't be able to do attempt fancy dribble moves just because he never did them in real life? No! Punish the user for playing unrealistically instead of using some Band-Aid to cover for faulty gameplay mechanics.

[andeee]

Re: Is the Self Alley-Oop an Issue?

I said go in, not be attempted. It barely happens, so why have it possible in the game?

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This is one of the worst possible arguments you could make. Seriously.

[plzwork12]

This is one of the worst possible arguments you could make. Seriously.

Please explain. He said since the self alley oop is rarely attempted then it shouldn't be in be game. I was comparing to half court shots, since they rarely go in thr basket.

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[Vni]

Re: Is the Self Alley-Oop an Issue?

Please explain. He said since the self alley oop is rarely attempted then it shouldn't be in be game. I was comparing to half court shots, since they rarely go in thr basket.

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You see one to two half/full court shot attempts per game when you see like 1 self oop every year.

[plzwork12]

You see one to two half/full court shot attempts per game when you see like 1 self oop every year.

Once again, I said go in, not be attempted. How many go in per game? The purpose of this is just to prove how bad his the argument is.

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[SPRINGS03]

Re: Is the Self Alley-Oop an Issue?

I said go in, not be attempted. It barely happens, so why have it possible in the game?

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Why have what possible? Half court shots going in? Because they do go in every now and then. I see what you're TRYING to say but your logic doesn't work here. Because for one, the chance of a half court shot going in in nba 2k has always been extremely low. Like it should be. Whereas with a self alley oop, it's user controlled/cpu controlled. That means people/ai can attempt them whenever, despite the fact that in real nba ball(regular season) you're likely to see more half court shots attempted and made than you will self alley oops(or even attempted self alley oops.) It's a very rare play attempt that i feel isn't really necessary to add in the game because it doesn't happen(in all star games or street ball i wouldn't mind it as much).

It's not the same as half court shots going in because in nba 2k they already had it correctly configured to where you rarely see them go in.

[andeee]

Re: Is the Self Alley-Oop an Issue?

Please explain. He said since the self alley oop is rarely attempted then it shouldn't be in be game. I was comparing to half court shots, since they rarely go in thr basket.

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A low success rate has absolutely nothing to do with whether something should be in the game or not, attempts is what you should be looking at. Your logic is just faulty.

[Joobieo]

Re: Is the Self Alley-Oop an Issue?

A low success rate has absolutely nothing to do with whether something should be in the game or not, attempts is what you should be looking at. Your logic is just faulty.

I don't see 2K taking out the self Alley-Oop, the only way to fix it at this point is to lower the success rate of the play. Its one of the 'marketing' pitches of the game so I doubt its coming out.

[HnB]

Re: Is the Self Alley-Oop an Issue?

I was actually hoping that the off the backboard self alley oops would come as a signature skill. Lebron is really not the type of player to pull this move off in a game and the one time that he did it, he traveled terribly.

[plzwork12]

Why have what possible? Half court shots going in? Because they do go in every now and then. I see what you're TRYING to say but your logic doesn't work here. Because for one, the chance of a half court shot going in in nba 2k has always been extremely low. Like it should be. Whereas with a self alley oop, it's user controlled/cpu controlled. That means people/ai can attempt them whenever, despite the fact that in real nba ball(regular season) you're likely to see more half court shots attempted and made than you will self alley oops(or even attempted self alley oops.) It's a very rare play attempt that i feel isn't really necessary to add in the game because it doesn't happen(in all star games or street ball i wouldn't mind it as much).

It's not the same as half court shots going in because in nba 2k they already had it correctly configured to where you rarely see them go in.

I guess we have to agree to disagree.

A low success rate has absolutely nothing to do with whether something should be in the game or not, attempts is what you should be looking at. Your logic is just faulty.

Can you read?

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[andeee]

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Can you read?

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You're comparing self alley-oops which are rarely happen(on a per season basis) to half-court shots which probably(on average) happen at least once a game. Either way you spin it, you made a horrible comparison.

[andeee]

Re: Is the Self Alley-Oop an Issue?

I don't see 2K taking out the self Alley-Oop, the only way to fix it at this point is to lower the success rate of the play. Its one of the 'marketing' pitches of the game so I doubt its coming out.

Well, that really wasn't the point of my post. That post was speaking of half-court shots.

I'm not sure if they could take out the self alley-oop at this point even if they wanted to, as the game is shipped. I'd like to see it stay in the game, but the in traffic success needs to drastically be lowered. It's just unfortunate that the collision detection for it is non-existent unless you take a charge.