2k..There's NOTHING wrong with the Offensive Rebounding...

[cj54]

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I play on allstar 11 minute quarters with rebounding sliders that favour the user rebounding and if I look at the box score the difference in off. rebounds isn't that big.

The problem is with the animations/gameplay where my players are just playing freaking volleyball or something on def/ rebounds. They just keep tapping the ball in the air multiple times instead of catching it. Then the CPU will just swoop in and catch the ball on their first attempt. This problem is even greater on higher difficulties. Your guys just can't catch an uncontested def. rebound consistently, they just juggle it...

[Whaaaazuuuuup]

Re: 2k..There's NOTHING wrong with the Offensive Rebounding...

I play on allstar 11 minute quarters with rebounding sliders that favour the user rebounding and if I look at the box score the difference in off. rebounds isn't that big.

The problem is with the animations/gameplay where my players are just playing freaking volleyball or something on def/ rebounds. They just keep tapping the ball in the air multiple times instead of catching it. Then the CPU will just swoop in and catch the ball on their first attempt. This problem is even greater on higher difficulties. Your guys just can't catch an uncontested def. rebound consistently, they just juggle it...

Coach 2k, i noticed all this when i first started playing and 2k13. once i made my adjustments its been a totally differnt game. i jsut finished another Heat vs Celtics game at which i got killed 119-96 (Pierce was off all game, but Bradley was hot), the off reb were 11-6 Heat favor. one possesion the Bosh grabbed 4 straight due to a mismatch down low.

[nova91]

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@nova

Can you post a few pics of box scores from some of your my career games that show that big of disparity in offensive rebounds? A 5 to 1 and 6 to 1 disparity is pretty huge.

I know a lot of times during a game I feel like I am getting killed on the boards but at the end of the game it wasn't like I thought while I was playing.

The reason I'd like to see it is then we can say it is a fact and not just a feeling.

Also what settings are you playing on? Also it is always helpful to know what team you are and who the opponent is which the box score would show.

These are some pics from my SF with the Bobcats

Spoiler

Thru 37 games we have been out rebounded on the offensive glass by 5 or less 5 times and we have out rebounded the CPU on the offensive glass 4 times. The majority of the games we get beat on the offensive glass by 7 to 15 boards.

On my 6' PG it was worse, but I can't access it because it was corrupted.

[Coach2K]

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Thanks for the pics. What are your settings?

[nova91]

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Superstar Sim.

[papaey]

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wow just made the same topic a few months back and it was deleted in an instant by the moderators in this forum.talking about consistency...

anyway i agree with you thread starter 100%. i also made a video on how to "counter" the AI Offensive boards and i guessed nobody cared.

Its how you play the game..

[23]

There is a bug that kicks in randomly and 2k knows it

I know you enjoy the game and me too but there are some issues that they worked on I'm sure

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[return.specialist]

The original post is well put. As in real life, knowing when not to leave the ground and boxing out are infinitely more effective than always going for a block or getting on the break.

[jersez]

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I think the problem with 2k is we give them a pass on teammate AI. We don't give them a lot of passes, but something I rarely see this topic addressed or talked about. 2k13 too me is showing how bad our Cpu controlled teammates are AI wise, not saying they don't have their moments, but the AI on the user side hasn't really been improved. You can play the last 3 2k titles and they all have the same AI issues. Teammates bringing defenders to you, packing the paint, plays being broken because they can't set a screen properly, rotation issues, spacing issues.

Now it's boxing out and rebounding, rebounding is not the issue, it's the boxing out and the ai staring at the ball. Fixing the teammate AI has been something some of us has been asking for some time now, and Idk what the issue is but with how the game is playing I don't think it's going to be addressed. They'll just turn down the off rebounds but the AI box out issue might remain.

[dat swag]

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Offensive rebounding for ONLINE play is clearly a problem...Nothing worse than boxing out and watching fools jack up dumb 3's and still get 3-4 consecutive rebounds and then finally drain the 5th 3 they shot on the same possession.

Simply said...ONLINE OFFENSIVE REBOUNDING in this game is Turrrrible (using my best Charles Barkley voice)...

I also believe 3pt shooting is problematic...Its not so much the 3pt shot alone but its the types of 3's that seem to fall online...I hate to see someone dribble around with one guy...get to a certain spot and jack up a three that is contested and it drops...It encourages these bums to not run plays or run anything close to a realistic offense.

These damn patches can't come fast enough

[allthoseships]

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i havent had a problem with offensive rebounding either on sim sliders. You've just gotta be aware and box out properly. I've compared all the games ive played to real offensive rebounding numbers and they ALL fall in line with real life numbers. So again imo, theres no problem - play the game properly, box out and you'll be fine

[dvir10]

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im sure i'll get flamed for this tread but im just speaking off my opinion and experience playin this game. ill admit i was one of those who initially complained about the off rebs...til i gave the game more time and found out what the game expects you top do in order to control the boards. i feel theres nothing wrong with the rebounding, its just ppl rely way too much on the cpu teammates to do the work for them. now i understand youre say "well if my guy has a 90+ reb rating why should i have to control him to take advantage of that." well, simply put, youre suppose to play the game, not the cpu. i notice 2k gave us what we've been screaming for for yrs, more user control, ex. better rebounding and better fastbreaks. they've done this but we must know how to use it.

ive just completed 20+ straight games on all star level sim default sliders. and ive managed to keep the cpu team in check with their offensive rebs, around avergaing 9 a game! how?... i simply control the best rebounder on my team when i'm expecting the cpu team to shoot and position him to where he can box out and get the the reb or box out to give my teammate a chance to grab the board. when ever you switch up the to the rebounder, quick defensive assign your perimeter players to pressure outside players, with or without the ball. this often forces tough shoots and sometimes takes the big man out to the perimeter to set screens to help get the guards open looks, thus, taking themselves out of position to getting the rebound.

i would hate to see 2k alter the game too much with a patch because players arent accustom to working on their games and are being force to rethink their strategies. try what ive suggested & tell me what you think.

another side note, learn to challenge shots by putting your hands up as oppose to always jumping to block the shot. this helps keeping you on the floor in postion for the rebound. and you'd be surprise of the success rate of missed shots youll get...

watch this to vids that i captured and let's see u keep saying that offensive rebound is ok in this game...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcRSis4s_p4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32DIGr4TQHw

[chunlam]

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I think the problem with 2k is we give them a pass on teammate AI. We don't give them a lot of passes, but something I rarely see this topic addressed or talked about. 2k13 too me is showing how bad our Cpu controlled teammates are AI wise, not saying they don't have their moments, but the AI on the user side hasn't really been improved. You can play the last 3 2k titles and they all have the same AI issues. Teammates bringing defenders to you, packing the paint, plays being broken because they can't set a screen properly, rotation issues, spacing issues.

Now it's boxing out and rebounding, rebounding is not the issue, it's the boxing out and the ai staring at the ball. Fixing the teammate AI has been something some of us has been asking for some time now, and Idk what the issue is but with how the game is playing I don't think it's going to be addressed. They'll just turn down the off rebounds but the AI box out issue might remain.

Totally agree particularly with the AI bringing defenders to you and packing the paint. 2k AI is hopeless.

[PJBrownHeat]

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watch this to vids that i captured and let's see u keep saying that offensive rebound is ok in this game...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcRSis4s_p4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32DIGr4TQHw

As usual i took the Off/Def rebond and my player don't keep the ball in his hand and Cpu take the rebond.
i'm agree with your video and i have a video like that: Wellington take the rebond (besides Mutombo nearly took me the Off Rebond i was lucky) and the CPU was not happy so i don't know why Wellington make a bad pass to Ron Harper, the worst possible thing i think if you beat the CPU on rebond.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywZ4thGOgTw

But those last game i played a game with the sonics against the Jazz and i was surprised to see that Johnson and Kemp took me every possible rebond compare to the bulls!!

And i tried another game with the Bulls 93 or Bulls 96 and i played very very very well triangle offense and Cartriwight or Rodman took me every rebond!! Off and Def

PS: i play only in HOF 4*12

So i discovered a simple thing when you play well, you teammate defends very well and take off reb.

if you don't play well, your teammate are not able to do their job, and CPU can destroy you with big put back, or bad 3 pts, or Bad runner!!

But watch this 3 pt of Hornacek, the fist time i see that in a NBA 2k, he shot after the Buzzer and the 3 pt is good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eI-2eWENH4E

= Good thing happened when you play good, here, it's CPU who play good.

But while i criticized CPU i did the same thing with Pippen yesterday against the Jazz because i played very well, and in one Quarter Rodman took 7 reb, and i told me i love NBA 2k13. But the issue is, i 'm still not able to play 4*12 min in HOF defaut slider because it is to difficult to keep going to play well during 4 quarters and there is a moment in the game CPU will take bad off reb and make every thing it wants to win the game!!

[Vni]

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It's not because it says 0 second on the shotclock that the shot wasn't good. The shot clock just doesnt show decimals. Nothing wrong with that shot... Oh yeah there is something wrong actually, that silly behind the back dribble that nobody ever does. Take that out of the game, it looks silly.

On topic: To me offensive rebound isn't an issue, or isn't an issue only with the CPU. The problem to me is that lack of boxing out by the CPU. But it happens in 1v1 as much as against the CPU.