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  • TheRealHST
    Banned
    • Jan 2011
    • 1755

    #91
    Re: NBA 2k14 patch - post your suggestions for fixes

    I think someone needs to make a Rebounding Tutorial Video for alot of you because the gripping is getting ridiculous. Its almost as if alot you just want the ball to magically come your way with little effort. Rebounding is not easy in real life.

    How many times must I post that rebounding is about position and timing. If either one of those is off, YOU LOSE, the end.

    GO to practice mode and work on YOUR rebounding skills. Something isnt broken just because you cant do it. No, you just arent good at it.

    I have no problem getting rebounds, so why should 2K alter something just to please a few people when there are another group of people not having that problem?

    Please learn to rebound.

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    • 23
      yellow
      • Sep 2002
      • 66469

      #92
      Re: NBA 2k14 patch - post your suggestions for fixes

      I shouldve recorded it but yesterday i had 2 men under the basket for a rebound.

      Turiaf at the top of the key. He ran down and double volleyball spiked it in the air twice while both of my bigs just stood there and never moved once. Its similar to that Tyson Chandler video but I had 2 bigs there blocking the way, and Turiaf spiked it twice and grabbed the rebound from BEHIND both of them.

      That isnt on me, that's definitely a bug. Some things should just never happen.

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      • TheRealHST
        Banned
        • Jan 2011
        • 1755

        #93
        Re: NBA 2k14 patch - post your suggestions for fixes

        Originally posted by 23
        I shouldve recorded it but yesterday i had 2 men under the basket for a rebound.

        Turiaf at the top of the key. He ran down and double volleyball spiked it in the air twice while both of my bigs just stood there and never moved once. Its similar to that Tyson Chandler video but I had 2 bigs there blocking the way, and Turiaf spiked it twice and grabbed the rebound from BEHIND both of them.

        That isnt on me, that's definitely a bug. Some things should just never happen.
        Noone boxed out Turiaf. You dont box a guy out this is what happens. Thats not a glitch. Whether it be two guys, big guy, small guy, whatever...it still about timing.

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        • 23
          yellow
          • Sep 2002
          • 66469

          #94
          Re: NBA 2k14 patch - post your suggestions for fixes

          Originally posted by TheRealHST
          Noone boxed out Turiaf. You dont box a guy out this is what happens. Thats not a glitch. Whether it be two guys, big guy, small guy, whatever...it still about timing.
          Bruh, its called over the back and its just not something you see happen in basketball. The players didnt even react, something is wrong. Players just stand there while the ball rolls off their head to their backs then on to the floor while they stand there motionless.

          I am enjoying this game immensely, and I can rebound manually just fine, but thats a problem, and im sure 2k knows it.

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          • JasonWilliams55
            MVP
            • Jul 2012
            • 2045

            #95
            Re: NBA 2k14 patch - post your suggestions for fixes

            Rebounding is a slight issue which stems from lopsided rebound ratings in favor of Orebs over Drebs, just scroll the ratings.

            Secondly LT has to be held once the ball goes up (doesn't matter which player you are selected as) because the CPU will box out once you start holding LT (depends on ratings as well).

            Offline reduce Oreb Attribute slider down 6 points, raise Drebs 6 points. What that will do is reduce Oreb ratings across the board 9 points, while increasing Drebs 9 points, which is really a 18 point swing, it will create a slight Dreb avg greater than Orebs. Really helps with Dreb Awareness, but yet the good Orebounders will still be able to get theirs.
            "Most people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them"

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            • Sundown
              MVP
              • Oct 2010
              • 3270

              #96
              Re: NBA 2k14 patch - post your suggestions for fixes

              Originally posted by blues rocker
              also, i have a feeling that shot releases are much more touchy this year. it seems you almost have to get a PERFECT release or the shot will miss...because i turned on shot feedback and even if my release was only "slightly early" my shot grade seemed to drop drastically...back in 2k13, you could be slightly off with the release and you'd still get a good shot grade if you were open. Shot release windows on free throws seem to be much smaller too. i'd take it back to 2k13 levels, because there seems to be way too much of a penalty for just being a millisecond off with your release timing.
              That's weird, because I make yellow A- shots all the time. Harrison Barnes is deadly even though I rarely nail his release. Klay makes plenty as well. So does Iggy actually. Curry's window for A+ seems huge, or maybe that's just my imagination.

              Originally posted by blues rocker
              i'd rather my shot success be determined by how open i am, not by some arbitrary millisecond shot release window. i personally don't think release timing should have that much of an impact on shot success. "openness" should be the main factor. as long as you're only "slightly early" or "slightly late", the shot grade should not be dropped much.
              Disagree with this. Now I don't think timing should boost shot success unrealistically, but timing should still be a factor. There are times I rushed a shot because of the shot clock or because of a closing defender, and I missed as a result. This is exactly what should happen because I reacted to the pressure.

              There are also times that I calmly held down the shot for its full release, got a green A+, and hit a buzzer beater. That was also rewarding.

              Being wide open helps your release, just as it should, because you have time to breathe and focus on your release, and I find that very immersive.

              If you'd rather not have release timings affect you (which I argue is part of the NBA game from a psychological perspective) you can eliminate its effect by using the Player FG% setting for shot success. That's exactly what the setting is for.

              If you want a more stats based game and still have it be realistic, then 2K needs to have new ratings on how players respond to closing defenders, specific pressure situations like shot clocks winding down, and anything that can affect timing beyond actual contests.

              Originally posted by blues rocker
              oh, well that's a different story. I'm talking about the CPU. from what people are saying, online seems to be a very different animal than offline. the cheapness seems to be less evident online than offline.
              Actually it's much, much, worse online.
              Last edited by Sundown; 10-10-2013, 03:53 PM.

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              • TheRealHST
                Banned
                • Jan 2011
                • 1755

                #97
                Re: NBA 2k14 patch - post your suggestions for fixes

                This seems close to the Turiaf thing you mentioned. Nobody boxed out Walker so in turn he came in and got his own rebound. you have to box out and it matter that the other guys under the basket were taller



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                • blues rocker
                  MVP
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 1921

                  #98
                  Re: NBA 2k14 patch - post your suggestions for fixes

                  Originally posted by Sundown


                  Disagree with this. Now I don't think timing should boost shot success unrealistically, but timing should still be a factor. There are times I rushed a shot because of the shot clock or because of a closing defender, and I missed as a result. This is exactly what should happen because I reacted to the pressure.
                  don't get me wrong. i think release timing should affect the shot success, but only if you are "very late" or "very early". if you get within the "slightly early" or "slightly late" range and you're wide open, it should barely drop your percentage in my opinion. the problem i'm having is that it seems by getting a "slightly early" release, my shot grade is being dropped as low as a C and I miss the shot. i don't know if this is the main cause for me missing so many open shots, or if it's something else that's causing all the open misses.
                  Last edited by blues rocker; 10-29-2013, 09:35 AM.

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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #99
                    Re: NBA 2k14 patch - post your suggestions for fixes

                    Originally posted by TheRealHST
                    This seems close to the Turiaf thing you mentioned. Nobody boxed out Walker so in turn he came in and got his own rebound. you have to box out and it matter that the other guys under the basket were taller



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                    That is not even close to what I'm talking about and my men were right under the basket and blocking his path.

                    In the last bit you'd elbow someone in the head jumping from far behind them spiking the ball way in the air miraculously from in front of them twice then grabbing the board while they stand there like unprogrammed characters

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                    • 23
                      yellow
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 66469

                      #100
                      Re: NBA 2k14 patch - post your suggestions for fixes

                      Originally posted by JasonWilliams55
                      Rebounding is a slight issue which stems from lopsided rebound ratings in favor of Orebs over Drebs, just scroll the ratings.
                      Im all for some randomness as well if its programmed that way. Things happen sometimes and its kind of refreshing to might see some unexpected things.

                      That said,
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                      I could use better angles but as you can see the ball went right through the top of Beverly's head and Granger moves in for a rebound he didnt even have to work for.
                      Last edited by 23; 10-10-2013, 04:48 PM.

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                      • JasonWilliams55
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 2045

                        #101
                        Re: NBA 2k14 patch - post your suggestions for fixes

                        23 I feel ya bro... I do, I chalk those up to them just missing the rebound and 2K not having enough rebounding animations to make it look good.

                        As for clipping the head, yeah that sucks. The other night in an online match I had the ball go through a players hands (w/o clipping) then the player hit the ball with his forehead like he has playing soccer straight out of bounds. LOL.
                        "Most people would learn from their mistakes if they weren't so busy denying them"

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                        • 23
                          yellow
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 66469

                          #102
                          Re: NBA 2k14 patch - post your suggestions for fixes

                          Clipping doesn't bother me because i doubt that can be eliminated with this current hardware. I mentioned because any other time the loose ball kicks in and it bounces off you except in a situation where they just made me miss the rebound for no reason.

                          I was just showing that there is a definite issue, not that its the worst in the world but sometimes some stuff that makes no sense pops up.

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                          • Sundown
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 3270

                            #103
                            Re: NBA 2k14 patch - post your suggestions for fixes

                            Originally posted by blues rocker
                            don't get me wrong. i think release timing should affect the shot success, but only if you are "very late" or "very early". if you get within the "slightly early" or "slightly late" range and you're wide open, it should barely drop your percentage in my opinion. the problem i'm having is that it seems by getting a "slightly early" release, my shot grade is being dropped as low as a B and I miss the shot. i don't know if this is the main cause for me missing so many open shots, or if it's something else that's causing all the open misses.
                            I still disagree that slightly early and slightly late shouldn't affect your percentage. Closeout defenders and shot-lock pressure are what can cause you to go from perfect to slightly early and late. This stuff makes a difference. It probably shouldn't drop like a rock though (and probably doesn't).

                            That's really weird that you're getting B's on your release. I hardly ever get B's unless there's defense. My slightly early/late releases are almost always A-'s (if I remember right). In fact, I probably get more slightly early/late releases than Green A+'s and I shoot 3's at a realistic 40% clip. I almost think Iggy and Barnes are cheese for how many wide open three's they can hit consistently with less-than-perfect timing.

                            Klay is almost always an A to A- off the Floppy. Yes, sometimes he and Curry go into cold spells, but Klay is super inconsistent in real life and Curry can get cold as well. For someone who watches a ton of Warriors games, it feels pretty decent.

                            Who are you shooting with to get B's?

                            And I think the "Player FG%" setting is exactly what you want. I believe very early/late releases are penalized but all "decent" shots go strictly by Player FG%.
                            Last edited by Sundown; 10-10-2013, 05:22 PM.

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                            • dat swag
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1040

                              #104
                              Re: NBA 2k14 patch - post your suggestions for fixes

                              Priorities IMO:

                              3Pt Shooting - This should be tuned not to eliminate the effectiveness of it but more so an adherence to the quality of the shot, whether its contested or not and the overall players rating as a 3pt shooter. I understand players getting hot and being on a roll and all that but to just be able to dribble to the arc and toss up mindless threes while under pressure is a GAME KILLER at this point in online play.

                              Rebounding - Huge problems here and I agree with the previous poster concerning players standing around and not going for the ball. Also Offensive rebounding over and and over and over seems unrealistic.

                              Spamming the steal button - Why is this still tolerated...Stealing the ball from a NBA point guard is a skill not a swipe-fest.

                              Easy Bunnies and Put backs - why these are more difficult than pull up 3's off a fastbreak is beyond me. Its like I'm in the Bizarro world of basketball where 3 pt shots are the new easy put back and bigs under the hoop are treated as if they are shooting a contested 3.
                              Last edited by dat swag; 10-10-2013, 05:29 PM.

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                              • blues rocker
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 1921

                                #105
                                Re: NBA 2k14 patch - post your suggestions for fixes

                                Originally posted by Sundown
                                I still disagree that slightly early and slightly late shouldn't affect your percentage. Closeout defenders and shot-lock pressure are what can cause you to go from perfect to slightly early and late. This stuff makes a difference. It probably shouldn't drop like a rock though (and probably doesn't).

                                That's really weird that you're getting B's on your release. I hardly ever get B's unless there's defense. My slightly early/late releases are almost always A-'s (if I remember right). In fact, I probably get more slightly early/late releases than Green A+'s and I shoot 3's at a realistic 40% clip. I almost think Iggy and Barnes are cheese for how many wide open three's they can hit consistently with less-than-perfect timing.

                                Klay is almost always an A to A- off the Floppy. Yes, sometimes he and Curry go into cold spells, but Klay is super inconsistent in real life and Curry can get cold as well. For someone who watches a ton of Warriors games, it feels pretty decent.

                                Who are you shooting with to get B's?

                                really? i'm missing tons open open 3's with everybody on the Warriors (Barnes, Iggy, Klay...). and that's all with "excellent" or "slightly early" releases. what settings are you using? i'm using Simulation/All Star with no slider or roster adjustments.

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