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  • gottibino
    "I am Tiger Woods"
    • Oct 2004
    • 1589

    #46
    Re: Neon1 v1.8 Rosters (360)....cracking the code on shot selection.

    Originally posted by Neon1
    I finalized gameplay this morning. Found the right balance of OFF/DEF to stop them from catapulting 3's anytime a wild hair fly up thier butt, now they actually run plays and actually run the offense.

    Mid range galoire, and pretty much all shots seem to be within the flow of the offense now.

    Didnt even have to alter the team or player shot tendencies, i left the real ones up.

    Im halfway through the league right now, Just finished the Spurs who re-created awesome.

    Special treat, Bowen has his own signature defensive style too. I'm going to do the same for Artest and Posey. First time ive tried recreating that.


    Neon1 v1.14 on 2K Share.
    AWESOME & CAN'T WAIT!!!
    psn: Kobe_8Mamba_24

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    • lkasprzak
      Pro
      • Nov 2007
      • 752

      #47
      Re: Neon1 v1.8 Rosters (360)....cracking the code on shot selection.

      Me 2 - thanks neon1, nogster and portlandblazer for ur work!!

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      • Neon1
        MVP
        • Nov 2004
        • 1532

        #48
        Re: Neon1 v1.8 Rosters (360)....cracking the code on shot selection.

        Originally posted by CD90
        Well, you are great.

        Had great games yesterday. Keep it up.

        (it is unlikely that you finish every team and FA's till Saturday, right?)
        Unlikely? More like virtually impossible. Id say its 50/50 between that and You hitting the lottery this week. Expect at least 1 team per day. On weekends you MAY (if i sacrafice my social life) get two.

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        • gottibino
          "I am Tiger Woods"
          • Oct 2004
          • 1589

          #49
          Re: Neon1 v1.8 Rosters (360)....cracking the code on shot selection.

          Played a few games last night mainly between Port, LAL, SA & Bos on Pro. Enjoyed it but had a few issues:
          -some speedy & quirky pg anims ex) T Parker did a turnaround from the top of the key & dribbled to 1/2 court for a backcourt violation. I was d'ing him up & he just jetted the other way on his own.
          -still some pg's jacking up 3's (mainly Blake)
          Also, wondering if default sliders & tendencies should be adjusted slightly (maybe triple threat, quickness, 3pt tendency just off the top of my head)
          Let me know what u think, I'm not critisizing, just trying to help.
          psn: Kobe_8Mamba_24

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          • Neon1
            MVP
            • Nov 2004
            • 1532

            #50
            Re: Neon1 v1.8 Rosters (360)....cracking the code on shot selection.

            Originally posted by gottibino
            Played a few games last night mainly between Port, LAL, SA & Bos on Pro. Enjoyed it but had a few issues:
            -some speedy & quirky pg anims ex) T Parker did a turnaround from the top of the key & dribbled to 1/2 court for a backcourt violation. I was d'ing him up & he just jetted the other way on his own.
            -still some pg's jacking up 3's (mainly Blake)
            Also, wondering if default sliders & tendencies should be adjusted slightly (maybe triple threat, quickness, 3pt tendency just off the top of my head)
            Let me know what u think, I'm not critisizing, just trying to help.
            When a player ever up and goes into weird animations theres absolutely nothing anyone can do about that, animations have trigger points and whatever combo of things you or your a.i. teamate happened to do defensively at that particular time, had to have triggered him into it.

            Its just like when a player once in a while gets locked into the back to basket animation and holds the ball rocking until the clock runs out.

            Its a glitch with the animations that as long as animations are used just has to be dealt with.

            The PG's pulling up shooting is human defense. People are making the mistake of thinking good defense is taking you guy and trying to run all over and harass the opposing PG while bringing the ball up.

            Good defense is staying between your man and the hoop. When you try to do all that pressure harrass stuff you are getting yourself caught BEHIND your man, and since the players are using thier real tendencies of course a known 3pt shooter is going to pull it when he arrives at top of the key. Guys like Cook and Blake etc, are going to shoot the 3ball regardless so he DEFINATELY is going to shoot it if theres nothing but open daylight between him and the hoop.

            That the reason why in real life you dont see guys playing defense like guys do in a video game, because you need to stay IN FRONT of your man.

            Next game you play try the two different strategies, harrasment on ball handler vs waiting and staying in front. you will see the 3pt cut down by 5-7 attempts.

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            • gottibino
              "I am Tiger Woods"
              • Oct 2004
              • 1589

              #51
              Re: Neon1 v1.8 Rosters (360)....cracking the code on shot selection.

              Originally posted by Neon1
              When a player ever up and goes into weird animations theres absolutely nothing anyone can do about that, animations have trigger points...
              The PG's pulling up shooting is human defense. People are making the mistake of thinking good defense is taking you guy and trying to run all over and harass the opposing PG while bringing the ball up.

              Good defense is staying between your man and the hoop....
              Well explained & greatly appreciated. I will that way from now on.
              As far as sliders/ tendencies...no tweaks? everything still @ default then?
              psn: Kobe_8Mamba_24

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              • Neon1
                MVP
                • Nov 2004
                • 1532

                #52
                Re: Neon1 v1.8 Rosters (360)....cracking the code on shot selection.

                Originally posted by gottibino
                Well explained & greatly appreciated. I will that way from now on.
                As far as sliders/ tendencies...no tweaks? everything still @ default then?
                No tweaks to global sliders. Tweaks that are needed will be addressed the hard way. If you want to tweak sliders for yourself thats fine, only thing i ask is to not give me gameplay feedback (good or bad) if you do because it confuses the process.

                If you come in and say theres no problem with opp threes, but you had went in a basically cheated the system with global sliders or if you say my fg% is too high or its to easy to score, but you had went in and tweaked sliders to be in your favor..it doesnt give me any real accurate feedback on what is good and bad with my roster.

                When you slider it up your basically predetermining your outcome in a way..get what im saying?

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                • ep1974
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 62

                  #53
                  Re: Neon1 v1.8 Rosters (360)....cracking the code on shot selection.

                  @ Neon1


                  do you have an excel table with all the new player values?
                  I've an old old ps2 and I want to modify them manually... thx!

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                  • Neon1
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 1532

                    #54
                    Re: Neon1 v1.8 Rosters (360)....cracking the code on shot selection.

                    Neon1 v1.16 was uploaded early this morning

                    Canada Eh? Edition...Craptors added.

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                    • Neon1
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 1532

                      #55
                      Re: Neon1 v1.8 Rosters (360)....cracking the code on shot selection.

                      Originally posted by ep1974
                      @ Neon1


                      do you have an excel table with all the new player values?
                      I've an old old ps2 and I want to modify them manually... thx!
                      Nah..i dont work off exel.

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                      • Neon1
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 1532

                        #56
                        Re: Neon1 v1.8 Rosters (360)....cracking the code on shot selection.

                        Neon1 v1.17 available on 2K Share

                        Edited Team: Dallas Mavericks
                        Rotation Edits: Toronto, Magic.
                        Coach Profile Edits: -2 Close, +1 Mid, +2 Attack, Runs Plays.


                        Notes:
                        Attack increase for more Iso drives and J's from Stars.
                        Run plays edited for more animation (smoother looking gameplay)

                        Full Edited Teams list on Pg.1

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                        • Bornindamecca
                          Books Nelson Simnation
                          • Jul 2007
                          • 10919

                          #57
                          Re: Neon1 v1.8 Rosters (360)....cracking the code on shot selection.

                          Just DLed it. I'm going to try these out when I get back home from work.
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                          • swac07
                            MVP
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 1843

                            #58
                            Re: Neon1 v1.8 Rosters (360)....cracking the code on shot selection.

                            I d/l'ed the rosters and they played pretty good to me.It was realistic...I played the lakers and celtics.I was the celtics we demolished all in the 1st half and 3rd quarter.The 4th quarter they came back in a tight one I lost 89-90 on 8 mins all star.
                            "Wisdom is ALWAYS an overmatch for strength"........The Zen Master

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                            • Neon1
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 1532

                              #59
                              Re: Neon1 v1.8 Rosters (360)....cracking the code on shot selection.

                              Neon1 v1.18 available on 2K Share
                              Edited Team: Philadelphia 76ers
                              Player Edits: Cavs,Magic,Knicks.
                              Rotation Edits: Bulls.
                              Active: Kirk Hinrich
                              Coach Profile Global Edits: Fastbreak, Defensive Pressure, Run Plays, Close, Attack.


                              Notes on add ons:
                              1st attempt at re-adding some more fastbreaks. Dont really care what team averages "x amount" of fastbreaks, only looking to add a few more cpu fastbreaks in general around 8-10. Not trying to turn it into NBA Jam.

                              Possible sideffects to changes:
                              -Higher P.I.T.P.
                              -Higher FG%
                              -More Blocked Shots
                              -More missed bunnies
                              -3ptrs? NO CLUE.


                              Full Edited Teams list on Pg.1
                              Teams Up Next Per request: New Jersey Nets, Utah Jazz,Detroit Pistons.
                              all requests are on priority of 1st ask 1st serve. My Arena.

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                              • javi1989_2
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 13

                                #60
                                Re: Neon1 v1.8 Rosters (360)....cracking the code on shot selection.

                                These rosters are too good. U need to get paid for this

                                Should we leave the foul sliders on 50?
                                Last edited by javi1989_2; 01-16-2009, 02:54 PM. Reason: question

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