Fictional Draft Classes for your Association (Storylines/Scouting Reports Inside)

**Jukeman** · 10-26-2011, 12:16 PM

This is awesome CW!

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**BBaller24** · 10-26-2011, 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by tarek

With the lead from CWSapp757 and BBaller24 I really look forward to these making their way onto the ps3 hopefully.

Even though I don't have a 360 and can't use these, i've read every one of your write ups and they are brilliant. You can really get a feel of the draft class, personalise the players and then hopefully in your association you can watch them grow and form their own stories.

Add to the fact that there could be potential steals and busts and well, this is some AWESOME work.

BBaller24, if you can bring these out on ps3 with the same classes as CWSapp757, well, I think ALOT of us will give you lots and lots of props and thanks.

I plan on doing just that. CWSapp has been gracious enough to give me a spreadsheet of his first draft class which I will make and release on ps3. Of course it won't be the exact same but I'll do my best.

I will also talk with CWSapp and see if it's not too much trouble for him to explain how he makes his classes (ratings, potentials, busts, diamonds in the rough), and after the first class, I will continue to make my own draft classes for ps3.

I was actually about to start a thread about this right now but I thought I'd address you first.

Once again, thanks to CWSapp for all his help!

**MURDR63** · 10-26-2011, 07:42 PM

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^Yeah, this thread is inspiring me to make my own for PS3 using this style. Obviously he'll get all the credit, and his will probably be better anyways, but I'll put some effort into it and try. Although, once I make the scouting reports, some may be inaccurate (on purpose...for like busts).

**stlpimpmonsta** · 10-27-2011, 01:07 PM

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i wish i read Kris Stark was john's nef before i drafted him.

Has all his uncles faults......

Dont expect him to win you games in the 4th

**CWSapp757** · 10-27-2011, 01:52 PM

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Lmao. Hey hey hey, I'm a john starks fan. You watch your mouth lol. Yeah, funny enough I drafted him while I was testing some things and I played a game with him. He's a good player but he frustrated the hell out of me.

**CWSapp757** · 10-27-2011, 07:58 PM

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For anyone interested, the next draft classes write up should be done later tonight or tomorrow morning. The class is actually finished but I wanted to finish the write up this time so that I could release them together.

My apologies for the delay but I wasn't happy with the initial write up. I didn't find it to be that interesting so I trashed it and started fresh. Should be done soon.

**CWSapp757** · 10-28-2011, 12:19 AM

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Overall Grade B -

National Championship
Texas – 59
Cincinnati – 76

Point guard
At the top of this crop of point guards is an unlikely candidate. Temple Senior Malik Owens, who was focused on football most of high school, was not highly touted basketball prospect. However, once he arrived at Temple, many big schools wished that they would have paid closer attention. Owens is known for his tremendous ability to score, but is also known for his grittiness and in your face attitude. Many may remember the fight that ensued after Owens took a swing at at North Carolina power forward (and former high school teammate) Travis Joseph during a game earlier this season. When asked about his style of play Owens went in to detail: “I am not a bad guy… at all. But when I step on the court, it is a war. I am friends with many of the players that I play against but on the court, my team is my family. I won’t apologize for that”. Owens averaged 22.7 points, 5.9 rebounds, 6.1 assists and 1.9 steals per game and is projected to be a very high lottery pick.

Other Notable Point guards:
Maryland Sophomore David Berry 12.9 points, 2.3 rebounds and 8.0
assists per game
England Nelson Thornton 17.9 points, 2.9 rebounds and 3.3 assists per
game
Florida Freshman Austin Kelley 13.5 points, 2.0 rebounds, 3.9 assists
per game

Shooting Guard
UCLA Junior Eric Heidari has had a tough road to where he is now. As the 5<sup>th</sup> rated high school player three years ago, many predicted that Heidari would make a quick stop at UCLA before bolting to the NBA. Things didn’t go that way however. During the fifth game of his freshman year, Heidari broke his leg in what many claim to be the worst looking on court injury since Shaun Livingston broke his leg. “I honestly didn’t know if I was ever going to play basketball again” Heidari said. “After I missed the rest of my freshman season, I just didn’t have that…. explosiveness. After my struggles during my sophomore season I was advised to come back for one more year. I’m glad that I did”. After a disappointing sophomore year, Heidari sprung back with a career year and All Big 12 Honors. Expect to hear Heidari’s name called somewhere in the top ten.

Other notable shooting guards:
Florida State Freshman Brandon Grove 16.4 points, 3.8 rebounds, 1.5
assists
Alabama Senior Donell Harrison 18.3 points, 6.2 rebounds, 1.3 assists

Small Forward
Richmond is known for a lot of things, but it is safe to say that producing top draft picks is not one of them. Richmond Senior Brian Pierce was given the nickname “Mr. Do Everything” by Dick Vitale on the way to averaging 17.9 points, 9.9 rebounds, 2.0 steals and 2.1 blocks per game. The interesting thing about Pierce is that he did not even begin playing basketball until his senior year in high school. “I wasn’t even interested in basketball” Pierce said. “. I was just interested in so many other things. I wasn’t until I got in to trouble the summer before my senior year that my mother made me play basketball to occupy my time. I had no idea that my life would turn out like this. I’m truly blessed”. When asked about Pierce, head coach Chris Mooney said, “I have absolutely no idea how this kid slipped through the cracks. I knew before we recruited him that he was something special. I’m just glad that he decided to come here”. Pierce is expected to be a mid to low lottery pick.

Other notable small forwards:
Kentucky Sophomore Rasheed Reed 13.7 points, 6.9 rebounds per game
Michigan State Sophomore Ryan Hill 16.7 points, 4.9 rebounds per game
Purdue Senior Peter Haywood 15.8 points, 5.9 rebounds per game

Power Forward
Texas Freshman Ronald Sharp has been given the nickname “the beast” for a reason. Sharp standing at 6’9 265 lbs. is a force to be reckoned with in the paint and has no problem letting others know about it. Sharp, projected to go in the top 5, was asked about where he thinks he should be draft. “I know Chris Bishop is supposed to be the best player since whoever, but I know I am better than him” Sharp said. ”I’m not knocking him because he is a great player and all, but I just don’t think he’s better than I am. If the team that gets the number one pick knows what they are doing, they’ll take me number one. I know I might catch a lot of heat for saying that but whatever. I’m just speaking the truth”. Sharp initially struggled during his first few games at Texas but rebounded to average 15.8 points, 7.9 rebounds and 1.0 blocks per game while leading the Longhorns to the National Championship game. The Longhorns may have lost that game, but for what it is worth, Sharp had a great game against both Bishop brothers scoring 17 points and pulling down 9 boards. Sharp may not go first, but he will definitely go very very early.

Other Notable Power Forwards:
Sweden Anders Johansson PF 16.3 points and 8.9 rebounds
Slovenia Luka Jovanovic PF 17.6 points, 7.7 rebounds
Cincinnati Junior Kareem Bishop 12.9 points, 7.1 rebounds

Center
At the center position you will find two guys who’s names you may have been hearing a lot of during the college basketball season. The first is New Mexico Senior Alex Baldwin. Baldwin is said to be the best post defender to come out of the draft in years. Last year, put up ridiculous numbers defensively as he led the nation in blocks with 4.1 per game. What’s even more impressive is that no opposing center scored more than 10 points against him while he was on the floor. That’s even more impressive when you notice that he averaged 36.1 minutes per game. “You can’t score against him” Lobos coach Steve Alford said. “What more can I say? You simply can not score on him”.

To say that this next player has had his name called frequently throughout the years is a bit of an understatement. To put it bluntly, Cincinnati Freshman Chris Bishop is the most sought after amateur prospect since Lebron James. As a sophomore in high school, many were saying that Bishop was the best player in the country. After his sophomore year, when Chris’ brother Kareem left for Cincinnati, he erased any doubt that he was the best player in high school basketball. After completing a dominant high school campaign, Bishop decided that the only thing to do was follow his big brother to Cincinnati. The love between the two brothers is sincere and touching. “A lot of my friends back home kept telling me that I should convince Chris to go to a different school so that I wouldn’t become second fiddle to him” Kareem Bishop said. “I had just been named as a third team All American and I knew my numbers would drop if Chris came here. I didn’t care though. Chris is a shy kid, and I wanted to be there for him when he made the major transition. I wouldn’t have had it any other way”. Cincinnati was a powerhouse with Kareem Bishop, but when Chris came to town, they became unstoppable. The Bearcats went undefeated and won the national championship as Chris Bishop averaged a ridiculous 25.2 points,
14.2 rebounds and 3.1 blocks per game. One unnamed NBA GM said “To even consider not taking this kid number one should be immediate grounds for termination. He is that good. He’s going to be special. No, I take that back. He’s going to be legendary”. It’s pretty safe to assume that Chris will hear his name called at the top of the draft. His brother Kareem shouldn’t have to wait too long after that.

Other Notable Centers:
Serbia Predrag Toroman Center 15.3 points and 10.7 rebounds
Kansas Junior Glenn Maxwell 10.2 points and 10.8 rebounds

Top 5 Prospects:
1) Cincinnati Freshman Chris Bishop Center 7'0 267 lbs. 25.2 points,
14.2 rebounds, 3.1 blocks per game
Biggest Strength: Excellent post scorer and defender. Great mid range
jumper. Excellent rebounder. NBA ready and can start day 1 for almost
any NBA team. Could be an all star in rookie year.
Biggest Weakness: Since he will be doubled time a lot, needs to become
a better passer.

2) Serbia Predrag Toroman Center 6'11 268 lbs. 15.3 points and 10.7
rebounds
Biggest Strength: Very good rebounder and very good offensive post
moves.
Biggest Weakness: All around below average defensive player. Could
improve with time.

3) Sweden Anders Johansson PF 6'10 256 lbs. 16.3 points and 8.9
rebounds
Biggest Strength: Great mid range jumper makes him tough to defend and
will keep defenders honest.
Biggest Weakness: Really looks lost on defense at times.

4) Texas Freshman Ronald Sharp PF 6'9 265 lbs.
15.8 points, 7.9 rebounds and 1.0 blocks per game
Biggest Strength: Very strong and can bully smaller players down low.
Above average post defender.
Biggest Weakness: Not very durable. Could use some improvement in the
area of rebounding.

5) UCLA Junior Eric Heidari SG 6'5 203 lbs. 18.4 points, 5.4 rebounds
and 3.6 assists per game
Biggest Strength: Will shoot the lights out. Above average passer and
ball handler that can play point guard if need be.
Biggest Weaknesses: Injury prone. Probably could have been a top 5 pick
after his freshman or sophomore year if not for injury issues.

Lottery Predictions (Best of the Rest)
6) Temple Senior Malik Owens PG 6'4 190 lbs. 22.7 points, 5.9 rebounds,
6.1 assists and 1.9 steals per game
Biggest Strength: Scores in the lane with ease. Extremely fast. Good on
ball defender.
Biggest Weakness: Needs to improve mid and long range jumper.

7) New Mexico Senior Andre Baldwin Center 6'11 259 lbs. 11.6 points,
11.2 rebounds, 4.1 blocks per game
Biggest Strength: Superb post defender. One of the best to come out of
the draft in years. Very good rebounder.
Biggest Weakness: Lacks the offensive ability to be a big time or even
above average scorer in the NBA.

8) Maryland Sophomore David Berry PG 6'2 200 lbs. 12.9 points, 2.3
rebounds and 8.0 assists
Biggest Strength: No one in the draft can pass like Berry. If you're
open, he'll find you.
Biggest Weakness: Not very quick at all. Has trouble blowing by
defenders.

9) Kentucky Sophomore Rasheed Reed SF 6'8 225 lbs. 13.7 points, 6.9
rebounds and 2.4 assists per game
Biggest Stength: Very quick and athletic. Can blow past many small
forwards.
Biggest Weakness: Weak and will get pushed around in the post by bigger
forwards. Below average rebounder.

10) England Nelson Thornton PG 6'3 192 lbs. 17.9 points, 2.9 rebounds
and 3.3 assists
Biggest Strength: Excellent range. Probably the best mid range shooter
in the draft.
Biggest Weakness: There are small forwards that are better passers that
this point guard.

11) Richmond Senior Brian Pierce SF 6'10 219 lbs.
17.9 points, 9.9 rebounds, 2.0 steals and 2.1 blocks per game
Biggest Strength: Excellent on ball defender.
Biggest Weakness: Terrible passer.

12) Michigan State Sophomore Ryan Hill SF 6'8 222 lbs. 16.7 points, 4.9
rebounds, 1.9 assists
Biggest Strength: Offensive awareness. Just finds a way to score.
Biggest Weakness: Plays lazy at times. Doesn't seem to hustle. Very bad
passer. Had turnover problem in college.

13) Slovenia Luka Jovanovic PF 7'0 230 lbs. 17.6 points, 7.7 rebounds
Biggest Strength: Can and will score from anywhere on the court. Above
average stamina for a big man.
Biggest Weakness: Needs to improve rebounding ability and post defense.

14) Cincinnati Junior Kareem Bishop PF 6'11 231 lbs. 12.9 points,
7.1 rebounds
Biggest Strength: Great mid range jumper. Not as good of a rebounder as
his younger brother but one of the better rebounders in the draft.
Biggest Weakness: Definitely needs to get stronger to compete with the
big men in the NBA.
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**tarek** · 10-28-2011, 06:08 AM

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Chris Bishop looks like a BEAST!!!!

**MURDR63** · 10-28-2011, 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by tarek

Chris Bishop looks like a BEAST!!!!

This.

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**Jukeman** · 10-28-2011, 09:44 AM

Downloading now!

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**CWSapp757** · 10-28-2011, 09:47 AM

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Oh Juke... my bad man. I didn't put them up yet. I had to change some attributes. They'll be up in about an hour. Sorry man

**Jukeman** · 10-28-2011, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by CWSapp757

Oh Juke... my bad man. I didn't put them up yet. I had to change some attributes. They'll be up in about an hour. Sorry man

Ok cool, Bishop sound like he's a problem!

Watch out Dwight!

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**DukeC** · 10-28-2011, 09:51 AM

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@CW

Is Chris Bishop most like Kevin Garnett or Tim Duncan?

Including some NBA comparisons would be most helpful in deciding whether or not a player will fit into the system you have or are striving to achieve.

Just a sugggestion

**CWSapp757** · 10-28-2011, 10:15 AM

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What up DukeC. Ill be honest with you. I didn't include NBA comparisons for two reasons. The first is because I believe (correct me if I am wrong) that you get comparisons on the game when you scout the player. So part of the reason that I stayed away from doing the comparisons is because I didn't want to many people to focus on what I write and feel like they don't have to do any scouting.

But the biggest reason is that normally after I write these write ups and do the actual draft classes, I'm just so damn tired and ready to move on to the next one lol. I usually take about 3 to 3 and a half hours to do each write up and about 4 to 5 hours doing the actual classes. My schedule is so jammed pack that I feel like if I rushed to give comparisons that might be somewhat inaccurate.

Now that you mention it though, I may take some time when I go on vacation to come back to the write ups and enhance them by adding comparisons and maybe additional stories. So thank you for the idea man.

To answer your question though, I would say that he plays more like Tim Duncan than Kevin Garnett. But there are strong similarities to both of those players however. Thanks for reading too my man.

**CWSapp757** · 10-28-2011, 10:19 AM

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The more I think about it though Duke, the more I like the idea. Maybe like a "best case/worst case scenario" type thing. Hmmm, I need to go back to the lab. Oh and Juke, the class will be up in ten minutes.

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