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  • Colts18
    MVP
    • Feb 2010
    • 1959

    #76
    Re: 2k12 Xbox360 Comprehensive Update (Hyperballer+DC)

    Originally posted by youALREADYknow
    Are you creating these rosters for a certain game mode? (Association, Quick Play, My Player, etc)

    I'm asking because I'm likely going to have to end up with 2-3 roster files, one for Association, one for Quick Play, and another for My Player.

    Just curious how other roster makers are going about this or if they just want to put out a good all-around roster.
    YouKnow,

    What would be the difference in the rosters? Do you need to do certain things for each? I am lost but interested in the logic here.

    Hypers, did you play with Rubio yet? How does he play?

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    • Colts18
      MVP
      • Feb 2010
      • 1959

      #77
      Re: 2k12 Xbox360 Comprehensive Update (Hyperballer+DC)

      Originally posted by raptorfan8
      I thought the numbers were all wacky and weird but wow$ I think your doing the best work of anyone else.
      Yes. When I downloaded them last year the first thing I noticed were the low layup ratings. It threw me off, but it translates well. We are just used to 2K's high ratings to the point when someone makes a roster and doesn't make an effort to use the whole entire 99 point scale, we find it weird.

      Originally posted by DaTwolves21
      I just don't wanna see derozan dunking 10 times a game from newhere and not playing his real game.
      From his work last year, nobody will be dunking 10 times per game. The game has dunk ratings and from what I remember, Hyper had those regulated across the board. From his post, it does show that LeBron outranks DeRozan in all athletic categories so I don't understand why he has a lower grade.

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      • Hyperballer21
        MVP
        • Feb 2003
        • 2040

        #78
        Re: 2k12 Xbox360 Comprehensive Update (Hyperballer+DC)

        Originally posted by Colts18
        YouKnow,

        What would be the difference in the rosters? Do you need to do certain things for each? I am lost but interested in the logic here.

        Hypers, did you play with Rubio yet? How does he play?
        I have played against Rubio. I put him in the starting lineup just to test things out. Don't let his low overall rating (52) fool you. This guy is a pure playmaking point guard. Although he had a few turnovers (not unsual from a rookie PG), he was looking to set up his teammates and got into the lane with dribble penetration.

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        • Hyperballer21
          MVP
          • Feb 2003
          • 2040

          #79
          Re: 2k12 Xbox360 Comprehensive Update (Hyperballer+DC)

          Another thing I am thinking about implementing is a "free throw consistency" factor. What this does is prevent some who doesnt shoot a lot of freethrows, but has a high percentage from taking the technical freethrows.

          An example with this was with the 96 Bulls (yes, they have been re-rated). Harper, Jordan, Pippen, Kukoc, and Wennington were on the floor and they other team got a Defensive 3-secs violation called on them. I expected Jordan (83 FT) to walk to the line, but instead, Wennington (86 FT) stepped up.

          So, with your help, he can compile a list of the top 2 or 3 players from each team that would take the technical foul shot.

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          • Colts18
            MVP
            • Feb 2010
            • 1959

            #80
            Re: 2k12 Xbox360 Comprehensive Update (Hyperballer+DC)

            Originally posted by Hyperballer21
            I have played against Rubio. I put him in the starting lineup just to test things out. Don't let his low overall rating (52) fool you. This guy is a pure playmaking point guard. Although he had a few turnovers (not unsual from a rookie PG), he was looking to set up his teammates and got into the lane with dribble penetration.
            How often did he look for his own shot?

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            • apollooff320
              Banned
              • Oct 2007
              • 1456

              #81
              Re: 2k12 Xbox360 Comprehensive Update (Hyperballer+DC)

              Originally posted by Hyperballer21
              Lebron is an elite athlete, but he isn't the athlete he was a few years ago. That's just how age works.
              I'm a major Cavs fan and hated to see Lebron leave to Miami, but with this statement you lost all creditability. This is just a silly thing to say. Lebron hasn't lost a step.

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              • Hyperballer21
                MVP
                • Feb 2003
                • 2040

                #82
                Re: 2k12 Xbox360 Comprehensive Update (Hyperballer+DC)

                Originally posted by apollooff320
                I'm a major Cavs fan and hated to see Lebron leave to Miami, but with this statement you lost all creditability. This is just a silly thing to say. Lebron hasn't lost a step.
                I respect your comment. When did I say LeBron is not athletic? Logic shows that running and jumping at 240lbs is a lot different that at 260lbs, whether its muscle or not. As of matter of factor, I clearly showed earlier that LeBron's athletic ratings are superior. Like our roster last year, he will be an athletic freak . I am done talking about LeBron's athletic ability.

                This isn't a pro basketball discussion, this is a video game. If he isn't athletic in the video game, then I'll address it. But until you (not you directly, but people in general) play with him in our roster, how can you judge?
                Last edited by Hyperballer21; 11-02-2011, 02:55 PM.

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                • JCEVO
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 183

                  #83
                  Re: 2k12 Xbox360 Comprehensive Update (Hyperballer+DC)

                  Playing against Miami under your roster hyperballer i can truly say lebron is still a athletic freak and it expands more than just dunks.

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                  • chia51
                    Banned
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 1912

                    #84
                    Re: 2k12 Xbox360 Comprehensive Update (Hyperballer+DC)

                    Hyper, when I get some time I will do some testing for you as well... also email me if you need any help this time round. (DC still has my email if you don't anymore)

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                    • Hyperballer21
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 2040

                      #85
                      Re: 2k12 Xbox360 Comprehensive Update (Hyperballer+DC)

                      Originally posted by JCEVO
                      Playing against Miami under your roster hyperballer i can truly say lebron is still a athletic freak and it expands more than just dunks.
                      Yes, yes he is. A true nightmare especially in Iso's and Open court situations.

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                      • bamalam
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 1407

                        #86
                        Re: 2k12 Xbox360 Comprehensive Update (Hyperballer+DC)

                        Im liking the all-time scale

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                        • gabri3l3
                          Pro
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 582

                          #87
                          Re: 2k12 Xbox360 Comprehensive Update (Hyperballer+DC)

                          @ Hyperballer

                          I played a game last night with your rosters + sliders, here's some stats & impressions:

                          ATL (me) @ Minny

                          lost 97-103

                          FG 51% 45%
                          3P FG 4/16 10/22
                          FT 7/8 7/8
                          REB 43 (5 OFF) 41 (8 OFF)

                          Crawford 21 (10/15 FG) - Johnson + Smith + Hinrich (9/32 FG)
                          Ridnour 27 (12/18 FG) - Telfair (16 min. 6/12 FG)

                          + I was very satisfied with the game I played, the CPU was aggressive, took a lot of threes (like Minny does), their players didn't over-dribble; they also made some mistakes like losing control of the ball or throwing bad passes. Overall the game was smooth, no bumping and it all felt responsive.

                          - The negative (in my opinion) are first the low number of FTA (I even raised the shooting foul slider to 60 for both user and cpu) and then the large amount of shot taken by Minny's PGs, in particular Telfair who shot every ball he touched (maybe some tendencies are off)

                          Hope my feedback will be appreciated! Good work!
                          -XBOX LIVE: gz18

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                          • raptorfan8
                            Rookie
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 7

                            #88
                            Re: 2k12 Xbox360 Comprehensive Update (Hyperballer+DC)

                            Had a game, here's the results
                            Raps (me). Twolves. Cpu
                            Bargnani injured. 5 mins, 5 rebs 1 blk. 0 pts
                            Calderon 29 min, 7 pts 2 reb 5 ast
                            Barbosa 23 min 27 pts 9 reb 3 ***
                            Derozan (I played as him playerlocked) 38 mins 23 pts 4 reb 1 ast 1 blk
                            Weems 29 mins 13 reb 3 ast
                            A johnson 29 min 10 pts 11 reb
                            Bayless 24 min 7 pts reb 4 ast

                            Beasley 34 min 23 pts 9 reb 2 ast 1 stl
                            W johnson 33 min 19 pts 5 reb 1 ast
                            Ridnoir 32 min 17 pts 4 reb 9 ast
                            Telfair 17 min 13 pts 2 ast
                            Webster 18 min 9 pts 1 reb 1 ast
                            Love 36 min 8 pts 10 reb 2 ast only 9 fga

                            The good
                            It was nice to see calderon and ridnour who are vetern players being smart and making good decisions. Also good to see that the defense reatced well and played smart but fell apart when they got beat. Also since both teams are not elite on defense the weren't all that good. The guards drove a lot smarter than in other games I had played (the original 2k roster) and there were no annoying blocks. Ie gaurds blocking centers left and right. Also it was nice to see the cpu driving and dishing. Not just driving and taking dumb shots. Also I shot more free throws than the cpu which was awesome.

                            The bad
                            I played player lock (which is the best way to play I think) and I didn't see the raptors get out on the break as much as they should have. Also calderon didn't play like the dominant pass first pg he shouldhave (8.9) apg last year.

                            Stats
                            Min (cpu). Tor(me)
                            Fg. 41/90. 41/88
                            45%. 46%

                            3p. 11/24. 6/11
                            45%. 54%

                            Ft. 8/14. 14/18
                            57%. 77 %

                            Ast. 20. 23
                            To. 3. 5
                            Team fls 11. 8
                            Reb. 44. 51
                            Off reb. 12. 13
                            Stl. 3. 3
                            Blk. 2. 2
                            Pip. 34. 42
                            Bench. 31. 49 (andrea was injured)
                            Sec chance pts. 4. 16
                            Fast break. 15. 16
                            Pts off turn. 9. 6

                            Other:
                            I wanted to see kevin love get the ball more. Only 9 fga is pretty low. And 10 rebounds ia also a low number. Calderon should have been more of a passer.
                            Also min took a lot of 3 ptrs but I played terrible perimiter d.

                            Also I play with the player lock on. Does anyone else? Also has the playbook for the raps been redone from the original? It would be nice to see a larger variety of plays called. I also play with an auto playcall on which I prefer. And also I noticed to help my defense I use the left trigger and right stick towards the player I'm defending to put a hand in his face to contest the shot without jumping and it has really helped me personally.

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                            • raptorfan8
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 7

                              #89
                              Re: 2k12 Xbox360 Comprehensive Update (Hyperballer+DC)

                              Oh a couple other small things. I think julian wrights def attributtes are a bit high. Just my comment. And I should have put kleiza in my lineup because he's a difference maker for the raps on offense. Also in the new roster release do you think it would be better to redo the player mins? For example kleiza wasn't in the lineup and alabi was. Also in the miami lineup big z and damp have 0 mins alotted and they are bigger differece makers than joel anthony when healthy and in the rotation. As well as house. He played a decent amount of mins for the heat. And murphy should have some mins in boston. Just some things to consider. In the nba bench players make or break a team.

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                              • Hyperballer21
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 2040

                                #90
                                Re: 2k12 Xbox360 Comprehensive Update (Hyperballer+DC)

                                @gabri3l3
                                I am beginning to notice an issue i'm having with overly aggressive PGs for all the teams that have been edited. Also, FTA's are kind of hit or miss so far. Some games I have a lot, some games i see very little. It just really depends on how the game plays out.

                                @raptorfan8
                                I'm looking into the issue with pass first PGs. Also, we have updated Julian Wright's attributes and will be seen in the next update.
                                I'll also look into the Kevin Love issue with him. Was he not taking shots? or was he not getting the ball at all?

                                As far as the lineups go, it was based on last season. So for those players who missed significant amount of games like Klieza, the will not be on the active roster. Also, Big Z officially retired so I put him on the IR until i am able to remove him from the game through the editor.

                                Thanks for the feedback

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