PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

[KG#5beantown]

Re: NBA 2K11 Simstyle slider tweaks by PuntNL

hey puntnl,

sorry...barly had time to post something.

ok my thoughts about strengh to 55 for user is...you can post up better...with 50 I had d12 who was not able to post up against guys like noah or ratliff etc...so irl he crashes them...also I raised it to become a good off reb value for user...so it worked out well...

yesterday I had a heartbreaking loss against atlanta with dallas...lost it by 6...couldn't hit a 3 with the mavs...terry, dirk, kidd all had wide open shots but missed, so I share your thoughts of raising the 3 point slider by one click

other than that everything was just great...shooting % , rebounds, blocks, steals, to's, assists...were great...but hey I raised cpu and user shooting foul to 65 and it worked out great...

[PuntNL]

Re: NBA 2K11 Simstyle slider tweaks by PuntNL

Nice.. About strength your tried it on 55 for both USER and CPU? I am not really a fan of different values for USER and CPU. Not sure if you still feel the post will matter more with CPU also to 55. Could be that better and stronger (post)players will be more accentuated so you will still notice that D12 owns the post against the average post players. Will try this, but curious to your opinion.

I didn't had time to play games this weekend, but will continue this week.
Focus areas will be on 3 point shooting, shooting fouls, strength (in the post) and the drive and kick game.

[jcern23]

Re: NBA 2K11 Simstyle slider tweaks by PuntNL

Punt Im having way to easy of a time now getting to the hole with guards and dunking what should I up the on ball defense or the help D?

[PuntNL]

Re: NBA 2K11 Simstyle slider tweaks by PuntNL

Try to up On-ball defense back to 65 or even 70. And you could lower go for on-ball steals by 5 or 10.. Will test this more. You see enough help D? And possibilities for kick outs?

You didnt had these problems in v1.7 I think?

[KG#5beantown]

Re: NBA 2K11 Simstyle slider tweaks by PuntNL

Nice.. About strength your tried it on 55 for both USER and CPU? I am not really a fan of different values for USER and CPU. Not sure if you still feel the post will matter more with CPU also to 55. Could be that better and stronger (post)players will be more accentuated so you will still notice that D12 owns the post against the average post players. Will try this, but curious to your opinion.

I didn't had time to play games this weekend, but will continue this week.
Focus areas will be on 3 point shooting, shooting fouls, strength (in the post) and the drive and kick game.

Hi PuntNL,

sorry but didn't play games the last couple of days...so maybe I will play some on sunday.

regarding the strengh slider at 55...I only had that for user, because I felt that my bigs always where pushed out of the zone an d so they never really had a chance of getting a off reb...so I still have it at 55 because I think that guys like haywood, d12, chandler, birdman and so on should be able to get real off reb not just lucky bounces...but still testing this.

3 point shooting is still something, with which I will deal the next games. as it is now...sometimes you have stretches where you can hit a lot of 3's but than you're going ice cold...I have to be honest, that I have taken bad shots...in my last games against atlanta (me = dallas)...so it could be the reason for the bad 3fg%. I played as the spurs and hit some with manu and hill...will try it out...I hope that raising it by one will not end up in 40+ 3fg%...lets see...

if you have something new let me now...

[PuntNL]

Re: NBA 2K11 Simstyle slider tweaks by PuntNL

I also am a bit short in time lately. Will still get some games in and will update the opening post with some small changes today or tomorrow probably.

But if you or someone else try these out, also try what putting Help Defense to 90 or even 100 will do in combination with leaving On Ball D on 55 or even 50. Would like to see some more help Defense.

Seeing other (pro) slider sets and all the stats I think 3pt shooting most definitely has to go to 52 or maybe even 53. But will try this in my upcoming games.

[harper6464]

Re: NBA 2K11 Simstyle slider tweaks by PuntNL

Punt, I think you're onto something here. I've tried various slider sets and keep coming up with funky stats I.e. Too many shots at too high a percentage or vice-versa.

Right now I'm playing on all star and basically using the theory behind your tweaks (didn't finish my game, had to go back to work)

I'm trying out inside and close on 42. I'm still getting fg% over 55 and I'm pretty sure thats the culprit. I'll let you know if I come up with anything usefull to add.

[harper6464]

Re: NBA 2K11 Simstyle slider tweaks by PuntNL

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Seeing other (pro) slider sets and all the stats I think 3pt shooting most definitely has to go to 52 or maybe even 53. But will try this in my upcoming games.[quote]

I've gotten good results at 50 or 51. I don't think enough people take their players hot spots into consideration when setting up they're plays. At 50 while getting my shooters good looks in they're hot spots I'm coming up with low to mid 30% pretty consistently playing with the Knicks and attempting 18-20 3's.

[PuntNL]

Re: NBA 2K11 Simstyle slider tweaks by PuntNL

Hmm I see you got banned. That's too bad. I think inside shots to 42 is way too low. If you look to all the sliders accros this forum they are all in the high 40 range. You could argue for lowering it by 1 or maybe 2, but I am happy with as it is right now. I think enough close/inside shots are missed. Highering On Ball D could make inside shooting harder en therefor drive the percentages down.

Still no time to test enough.. Give me a couple of days to update this slider set. Looking forward to some other feedback the next days (well not from you as you are banned but hey)...

[PuntNL]

Re: NBA 2K11 Simstyle slider tweaks by PuntNL

Okay so I got some games in and tested the areas I talked about in my previous posts. I updated the opening post with v2.5. Only small changes were made.

I upped 3pt shooting to 52, still see it a little bit on the low side but 53 for some reason made shooting 3's getting too easy again. I need more feedback on this, so for now 52. I added strength and set this to 55 for both user and CPU and I lowered dunking ability by 2 to 43.

On the defensive side I made things a little more challenging again inside by highering the help defense slider from 70 to 75 and putting on ball Defense to 60 (+5).

Last thing I changed were the shooting fouls, seems to be on the sweet spot with the values on 65/62. I really need that seperation between user and cpu there to get the amount of free throws kind of equal between the two teams.

So hope you guys can give these a spin. Goal is to make the next version the final one. Will test next games with a little bit lower gamespeed (46-48), things could go a little bit slower to my liking.

Thanks guys!

[PuntNL]

Re: NBA 2K11 Simstyle slider tweaks by PuntNL

Okay so I decided to change things up. From now on I will roll with Rashidi's Roster (http://thereal2kinsider.blogspot.com/). I just don't like the 2K rosters for many reasons mentioned already here is the forums (tendencies, touches, injuries and even ratings). If you read all the posts of Rashidi you will see he has a lot of good points against the 2K insider. His experience with rosters and the implementation of synergy sports data, make these the roster to go with.

The roster is still work in progress so these slider will be too. I use the PS3 port of the rosters (more info here: Rashidi´s corner: The Real 2K Insider ...)

As most who follow this thread know I want to adjust as less sliders as possible and with the use of this roster I hope to get to even fewer adjustments. However I have to start from scratch with default as a base. Version 2.5 with the official rosters will therefor be the final version and I will put these in the 2nd post of this topic. The first post will be used for the slider set (tweaks ) specially cut for rashidi's roster. Hope to have something by next weekend.

See opening post for a further explanation!

[BossLoops]

Re: PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

Trying these out now with the Rishidi's Rosters. Will be posting results in a few.

1st Edit:

Boston (CPU) @ L.A Lakers (User) 22 - 22 .. end of 1st quarter (No complaints at all!)

2nd Edit:

Boston (CPU) @ L.A Lakers (User) 42 - 43 .. end of 2nd quarter (Still incredible sliders so far!)

Half Time Main Team Stats:

Boston:
FG% - 45
3 Point % - 25
Free Throws - 1/4 (25%)
Assists - 13
Turnovers - 6
Rebounds - 21
Steals - 5
Blocks - 2

L.A Lakers:
FG% - 44
3 Point % - 33%
Free Throws - 8/9 (88%)
Assists - 9
Turnovers - 6
Rebounds - 14
Steals - 5
Blocks - 5

3rd Edit:

Boston (CPU) @ L.A Lakers (User) 57 - 68 .. End of 3rd Quarter

4th Edit:

Boston (CPU) @ L.A Lakers (User) 80 - 88 .. Game End

TEAM STATS:

Boston:
FG% - 42
3 Point% - 30
Free Throws - 4/9 (44%)
Turnovers - 9
Rebounds - 39
Steals - 9
Blocks - 4

Lakers:
FG% - 46
3 Point % - 31
Free Throws - 12/15 (80%)
Turnovers - 11
Rebounds - 37
Steals - 8
Blocks - 7

Star Stats:

Kobe Bryant:
22 Points (9-18) FG ... (1-2) 3 Pointers
5 Rebounds
3 Assists
4 Steals
3 Turnovers

Pau Gasol:
20 Points (8-12) FG
11 Rebounds
1 Assist
1 Steal
2 Blocks
1 Turnover

Paul Pierce:
20 Points (9-20) FG ... (1-6) 3 Pointers
7 Rebounds
3 Assists
2 Turnovers

Ray Allen
16 Points (6-11) FG ... (2-5) 3 Pointers
1 Rebound
3 Assists
2 Steals
2 Turnovers

OVERALL EVALUATION:

Best Sliders I have ever played with!! Thanks!!

PS - I was using the Rashidi Rosters (DEFINITELY RECOMMENDED!!!)

[PuntNL]

Re: PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

Thanks man! You were running with v2.5 in the 2nd post of this thread? Difficulty on Pro and 11 minutes? And the latest opening week Rashidi roster?

[BossLoops]

Re: PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

Yeah man, everything! Worked out real good!!

About to start my association mode with these settings! Thanks!

[PuntNL]

Re: PuntNL's NBA 2K11 slider tweaks (for use with the Real 2K Insider roster)

Will have v3.0 online probably later tonight. Just played half of a game with them and both the gameplay and the stats were very satisfying. Couldn't finish because I had to get to work, but will post the half-time stats along with version 3 tonight. I touched a couple of sliders less in version 3.0 (than in v2.5) because some things are adressed in the roster of Rashidi (f.e. dunking ability).