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Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)
Yup. I mean their court vision is severely hampered (even w/ OFF AWR @ 100). I don't see a way to correct it. In fact, until I played extensively on AS, I didn't even know the game could do these things.
The trick is to not remove this from AS to make it realistic, to not make AS become PRO+.
The majority of passing on PRO is play-based, not court-awareness based. Players seem much more single-minded on PRO. On AS, when a player ends up in a sticky situation, they dish the ball a lot more.
As of now every game is a FULL BLOWN dogfight. There is no doubt that the cpu is gonna give you a run for your money. I personally liked the randomness of your Pro set and I thought those were money. With the current AS set I feel that I can never just have a game vs a weaker team and dominate. If you are the Lakers, Celtics, Heat you would expect to blast teams such as the Nets, Raptors but right now it just does not happen.
Shots are made at a ridiculous amount for the cpu and the hum player can have the same shot and it won't drop. I've had wide-open layups from Kobe, Gasol, Odom that they miss because it seems the cpu wants to keep the game close or maybe the %'s don't jive with the sliders.
Hell I lost to the Nets by 1 after having a 20 plus point lead in the 3rd qtr and to make matters worse in that game Odom dunks and is not credited with 2 points and the cpu did not even take the ball out and I lose the game by 1 if I remember correctly. I looked at the replay to make sure I made the shot, now add to the fact that it was late in the 4th qtr and I was missing wide open dunks/gimme layups?? Not sure why this happened to me.
I love the movement and most of the things your set provides but 2ft passes that leads to TO's several times a game just does not happen in real life when a def is not around. I wonder if the desire to get realistic stats is coming at the expense of REAL-LIFE BALL???
I'm still gonna keep reading this thread because I enjoy what everyone is bringing to the table mostly everyone. LolLast edited by Flightwhite24; 01-26-2011, 01:43 PM.The poster formerly know as "FLIGHTWHITE"Comment
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Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)
^^that is one of my main issues with these sliders, the short passes that go flying outta bounds. They are unrealistic, and give the opposing side a free shot on offense after the TO.Last edited by ~: AkaDemiK :~; 01-26-2011, 01:38 PM.Comment
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Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)
It happens to me 2-5 times a game along with the inbounds pass from the side. I panic everytime I have to take the ball out from the side wondering if I am gonna have a to.The poster formerly know as "FLIGHTWHITE"Comment
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Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)
My bad i forgot to post the score, it was 115-97 HeatComment
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Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)
I had to raise all the user shooting sliders up one, I was shooting in the low 30% range while the computer was shooting around 45 which is about average so I think i'll leave the cpu sliders alone.Comment
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Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)
8 games left. Post stats if you use the sliders exactly as posted on page 1 of this thread.
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border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl86" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl88" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl86" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl88" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl86" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> <td class="xl88" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;"> </td> </tr> <tr style="height: 28.5pt;" height="38"> <td class="xl87" style="height: 28.5pt; border-top: medium none;" height="38">NBA</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">100</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">105</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">105</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">38</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">81</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">46.0%</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">50.1%</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">54.3%</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">6</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">18</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">35.5%</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">22.2%</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">18.6</td> <td class="xl87" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">24.5</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">30</td> <td class="xl99" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">76.0%</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">21</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">20</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">14</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">13</td> <td class="xl97" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">10.95</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">26</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">74</td> <td class="xl97" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">41.72</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">50</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">5</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">5</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">7</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">15</td> <td class="xl98" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">21</td> <td class="xl91" style="border-top: medium none; border-left: medium none;">95</td> </tr> </tbody></table>Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd[...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.Comment
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Re: The Purist(s) NBA 2K11 Sliders (Post-Patch)
You shouldn't have to resort to going for on-ball steals to inflate the TO numbers. And steals should never be = TO. Unfortunately, AS seems to have virtually negated the TO progress I made on PRO.
But, make no mistake, I want it to happen more, not less.Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd[...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.Comment
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Issues I'm seeing right now with the base slider set.
Loose Balls. As soon as a ball is knocked loose the entire team runs straight for it leaving their assigned players. The CPU team picks up the ball and just throws it to the wide open guy. With steals happening too often this is how the CPU gets easy points off me. I play great defense, deflect the ball but my stupid teammates leave their assignment when they have no chance of getting the ball.
CPU recovery speed. I attack the basket a lot. The CPU post defenders will shift over quickly to put me in a canned block animation. They leave their feet, I pass out to the open defender, and they magically have a hand up in his face before he gets a shot off. CPU big men recover way to fast it seems.
Human Layups seem a little too hard to me. I can be on a fast break with a pg with 99 layup 85 SIT and still miss if the CPU is remotely close, whether they try to defend or not.
CPU players will do amazing things to avoid being blocked/contested by someone with a low block rating. I'll come over on help defense and time it perfectly but the CPU will twist his body 180 degrees and pass it out to the wide open teammate that he should have no idea where he is. It doesn't matter how late in the shot animation he is, he can land back on the ground and still pass it out.
These are just a few gripes I have. I'm not too knowledgeable with the sliders but I'm guessing some of them can't be fixed.Comment
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These passes are ridiculous. I'm talking a 5 foot pass flying over my players head and going into the 10th row, WTF. The bad passes are giving the CPU too many chances on offense. Inbound passes are just as bad. I understand you want to get good TO numbers, but this is ridiculous.Comment
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These passes are ridiculous. I'm talking a 5 foot pass flying over my players head and going into the 10th row, WTF. The bad passes are giving the CPU too many chances on offense. Inbound passes are just as bad. I understand you want to get good TO numbers, but this is ridiculous.Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd[...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.Comment
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Issues I'm seeing right now with the base slider set.
Loose Balls. As soon as a ball is knocked loose the entire team runs straight for it leaving their assigned players. The CPU team picks up the ball and just throws it to the wide open guy. With steals happening too often this is how the CPU gets easy points off me. I play great defense, deflect the ball but my stupid teammates leave their assignment when they have no chance of getting the ball. Hustle slider.
CPU recovery speed. I attack the basket a lot. The CPU post defenders will shift over quickly to put me in a canned block animation. They leave their feet, I pass out to the open defender, and they magically have a hand up in his face before he gets a shot off. CPU big men recover way to fast it seems. Help D/ Block slider.
Human Layups seem a little too hard to me. I can be on a fast break with a pg with 99 layup 85 SIT and still miss if the CPU is remotely close, whether they try to defend or not. Contact shot/ layup slider.
CPU players will do amazing things to avoid being blocked/contested by someone with a low block rating. I'll come over on help defense and time it perfectly but the CPU will twist his body 180 degrees and pass it out to the wide open teammate that he should have no idea where he is. It doesn't matter how late in the shot animation he is, he can land back on the ground and still pass it out. Off awr slider.
These are just a few gripes I have. I'm not too knowledgeable with the sliders but I'm guessing some of them can't be fixed.Originally posted by Fabian Avenarius Lloyd[...] a man of subtlety or refinement is almost always nothing but an idiot.Comment
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These passes are ridiculous. I'm talking a 5 foot pass flying over my players head and going into the 10th row, WTF. The bad passes are giving the CPU too many chances on offense. Inbound passes are just as bad. I understand you want to get good TO numbers, but this is ridiculous.
Also the impossible shotmaking by the cpu to attain realistic stats are killing the fun factor.
I think I am gonna start my new ASSC on Pro and if somethings change in the future I will be in thats for sure.The poster formerly know as "FLIGHTWHITE"Comment
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FlightWhite, I soo those errand passes being made by the CPU also. I don't think that's the reason AS is so difficult for someone. I see the same also on PRO, it's the low Pass Acc slider. It can be solved with this slider but the difficulty would be the same I think.Comment
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I get a win!!! 109-101 over the Bobcats I came out hot early leading by 8 after one(Mcgee had 10 in the 1st) They fought back took a one point lead at half. They pulled ahead by 8 heading into the 4th. I fought back to tie midway through the 4th and we basiclly traded buckets for a lot of the game and I got up by 8 because of them fouling me. Wall and Beaubois made the big shots in the 4th
Bobcats/Wiz
Field Goals: 40-86(46%)/36-78(46%)
3's:2-9(22%)/6-16(37%)
free throws: 19-23(82%)/21-39(79%)
assists: 16/25
turnovers: 14/12
rebounds: 37(6 off.)/42(5 off.)
steals: 10/9
blocks: 9/2
PIP: 50/52
bench: 26/22
2nd chance: 11/10
fast break: 17/8
Key Players
Wallace 32 points 2 steals 3 blocks 13-26 from field 42 mins
Livingston 20 points 3 steals 9-19 from field 41 mins(woulda played the whole game if he didnt foul out they have dont have a pg on the roster with DJ hurt)
Jackson 15 points 5 broads 5 assists 6-21 from field 39 mins
Wall 25 points 10 assists 3 stea;s 6 tos
Mcgee 23 points 9-11 from field(got season high in 1st half, with 17)
Beaubois 22 points 6-13 from field 4-6 from 3Comment
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