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  • free24ride1
    Rookie
    • Dec 2011
    • 90

    #16
    Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

    Also EM, the fastbreak in coach profiles is also backwards this year like Run Plays? Is that why you lowered the values?
    Last edited by free24ride1; 10-31-2012, 08:00 AM.

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    • Philip00
      Rookie
      • Feb 2011
      • 67

      #17
      Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

      Man I love you with slider set i have very ralistic stat and the game also very funny, i enjoy every minute. I did only 2 changes
      - The 3pt succes for cpu i rase 50
      - The hustle for cpu i raise 25

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      • free24ride1
        Rookie
        • Dec 2011
        • 90

        #18
        Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

        Also last question, would your values for fast break applies to other rosters as well, or only for 2K rosters? I am using slimm44's roster, and he has edited the coach profiles.. so I'm not sure if your values apply.

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        • Philip00
          Rookie
          • Feb 2011
          • 67

          #19
          Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

          http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/view/1210...toltes.hu_.png here is my assoctiaton stat first match

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          • Smirkin Dirk
            All Star
            • Oct 2008
            • 5180

            #20
            Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

            Got the game humming beautifully.

            Only problem and havent been able to find either a slider set or roster that fixes this, is the lack of shots taken by big men.

            Played 2 games last night. Brook Lopez took 3 shots, Gortat 4.

            IMO this issue can only be resolved by patch.
            2022 'Plug and play' sim roster (XBX)

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            • EccentricMeat
              MVP
              • Aug 2011
              • 3242

              #21
              Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

              Alright, it looks like I have a lot to get to here...

              Originally posted by free24ride1
              About My Career..

              Well its like playing in offline association, but you play in "Player Lock" There are simmed games. You dont manage a team at all. Unlike association, you cannot change the player speed.

              So instead of managing a team, you make your own player, get drafted, play games and you can't control the playeres on the team that your at, only your own player. (Since its in Player Lock depending on the position you made)

              There's much more, but I think the one I said above was all you needed to know about the mode.

              I hope you can make one, since with default sliders, its too easy on 12 minutes all star simulation. I've tried 12 minutes HOF simulation sliders, and it felt like the CPU was cheating on me, the game was unplayable.
              Can you use custom sliders in MyCareer? I thought I heard that you couldn't. If you can, then I would imagine that using my Quick Game slider set would still work well. What problems are you seeing in this mode?

              Originally posted by papaey
              Ill take a look at it. try playing in rookie(no boost in rating except -10 in SIT/SOD) and Hof(boost only in ball sec/SIT/SOT by at least 15).youll hardly see the difference. with almost 10 games i played i can conclude that the AI are just getting boost that affect your team offensively and defensively.there is no such thing that they get smarter/aggresive. It just looks like they are more aggresive in hof because of their speed/quickness boost.but gameplay wise its just the same.
              The only real difference I notice with the AI on higher difficulties is that all of the issues with your tendencies get even worse. At default All-Star, the AI has a tendency to go crazy on fastbreaks and they almost always attack the basket. On HoF, these tendencies are even worse, and even harder to fix.

              But yes, most of the difference is in the attribute boosts the AI receives at higher difficulties. I believe there is another thread on this forum that addresses this issue, so perhaps you could apply the changes mentioned there?

              Sorry I'm not much help on this subject. I usually stick to All-Star/Superstar (depending on the AI each year), and this year seems like All-Star is the way to go for me.

              Originally posted by free24ride1
              Also EM, the fastbreak in coach profiles is also backwards this year like Run Plays? Is that why you lowered the values?
              No, fastbreak is actually correct in the Coach Profiles. I lowered the values the way I did to remedy the AI's "all-out" fastbreak tendencies this year.

              I noticed in testing that a value of 25 is almost perfect for a balanced fastbreak. The AI would push the ball up the court if the transition defense was lacking, and the AI would slow it down and set up their offense if the transition defense was strong.

              So, from there I simply applied my +/- 5 system that has worked pretty well this year. For teams that are more cautious on the fastbreak, only pushing the ball up court if there is an opening, I lowered the value by 5. For aggressive fastbreak teams, I upped the value by 5.

              This is my way of sort of condensing the value down, so instead of going from 0-100, you go instead from 15-30. And honestly, the results have been pretty impressive in-game.

              Originally posted by Philip00
              Man I love you with slider set i have very ralistic stat and the game also very funny, i enjoy every minute. I did only 2 changes
              - The 3pt succes for cpu i rase 50
              - The hustle for cpu i raise 25
              I also upped the CPU 3PT Success to 50, I just forgot to update the value in this thread. Whoops!

              As for the CPU Hustle to 25, what differences have you noticed? I know that at my value of 15, the CPU fastbreak is nearly perfect (when coupled with my Coach Profile edits). I would guess that bumping the value up to 25 would increase the CPU fastbreak tendencies, but I'm not sure by how much.

              I'm glad you like my sliders!

              Originally posted by free24ride1
              Also last question, would your values for fast break applies to other rosters as well, or only for 2K rosters? I am using slimm44's roster, and he has edited the coach profiles.. so I'm not sure if your values apply.
              The values SHOULD carry over to all rosters. I don't think that there is a "fastbreak" player tendency that roster makers can edit, so it seems the only way to edit this tendency is through Coach Profiles. So yes, my edits should have the same effects on your roster as on default 2k rosters!

              Originally posted by Hot Kidd
              Got the game humming beautifully.

              Only problem and havent been able to find either a slider set or roster that fixes this, is the lack of shots taken by big men.

              Played 2 games last night. Brook Lopez took 3 shots, Gortat 4.

              IMO this issue can only be resolved by patch.
              That is strange. With these settings, I'm seeing a very realistic amount of shots from every position/player, including PFs and Cs.

              What kind of shot numbers are you seeing from teams that ignore their bigs? Too many 3s? Is a certain player dominating the ball? Is the team attacking the basket too often?

              If you can give me that information, I should be able to help you out.
              My Slider Threads
              NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
              The "Movement" Sliders Explained
              The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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              • EccentricMeat
                MVP
                • Aug 2011
                • 3242

                #22
                Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

                New Update - Minor Changes

                These were edits that I simply overlooked and forgot to post.

                All updates are BOLD.
                My Slider Threads
                NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
                The "Movement" Sliders Explained
                The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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                • kenny123123
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 181

                  #23
                  Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

                  I see a lack of cpu turnovers when i manage to smack the ball they seem to always get it back.
                  Any Help?

                  And do these work on superstar?
                  Last edited by kenny123123; 10-31-2012, 10:50 PM.

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                  • EccentricMeat
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 3242

                    #24
                    Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

                    Originally posted by kenny123123
                    I see a lack of cpu turnovers when i manage to smack the ball they seem to always get it back.
                    Any Help?

                    And do these work on superstar?
                    I would imagine increasing User Hustle would fix this issue.

                    As for Superstar, I'm not sure. You could give them a try and tell me how they work.
                    My Slider Threads
                    NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
                    The "Movement" Sliders Explained
                    The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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                    • free24ride1
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 90

                      #25
                      Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

                      Originally posted by EccentricMeat
                      Can you use custom sliders in MyCareer? I thought I heard that you couldn't. If you can, then I would imagine that using my Quick Game slider set would still work well. What problems are you seeing in this mode?
                      Yes you can on PC and Xbox 360. As for the problems I'm seeing, it's the same on what you get User vs CPU, which you listed here.
                      http://www.operationsports.com/Eccen...-cpu-gameplay/

                      About using the quick game slider set, I think I'll use the changes on offline association except the player speed, game speed, quickness and speed since you can't change player speed on My Career.

                      Slimm44's latest roster, which I just downloaded, also has coach profiles fastbreak on all the current 30 NBA teams on 0. I don't know if your values would still apply.

                      I'm not so sure about your injury sliders though.. each season I get atleast 1-3 players in the league get injuries which lasts for a season. I've simmed games to see how the injuries would work out. Is this normal?
                      Last edited by free24ride1; 11-01-2012, 03:50 AM.

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                      • kenny123123
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 181

                        #26
                        Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

                        I like these sliders what do you think?
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                        • Smirkin Dirk
                          All Star
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 5180

                          #27
                          Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

                          Originally posted by EccentricMeat
                          That is strange. With these settings, I'm seeing a very realistic amount of shots from every position/player, including PFs and Cs.

                          What kind of shot numbers are you seeing from teams that ignore their bigs? Too many 3s? Is a certain player dominating the ball? Is the team attacking the basket too often?

                          If you can give me that information, I should be able to help you out.
                          Seeing on avg 80-85 shots from opp teams with 10-15 3s per game. No issues there. Driving the lane is not a problem, its just that wings take the shots bigs should be taking.

                          What impact does off awareness have on this issue?
                          2022 'Plug and play' sim roster (XBX)

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                          • Philip00
                            Rookie
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 67

                            #28
                            Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

                            Originally posted by EccentricMeat
                            I also upped the CPU 3PT Success to 50, I just forgot to update the value in this thread. Whoops!

                            As for the CPU Hustle to 25, what differences have you noticed? I know that at my value of 15, the CPU fastbreak is nearly perfect (when coupled with my Coach Profile edits). I would guess that bumping the value up to 25 would increase the CPU fastbreak tendencies, but I'm not sure by how much.

                            I'm glad you like my sliders!
                            I think with cpu hustle 25 is more ralistic because for me the cpu noly did about 4 points od their fast breaks now good about 10-12

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                            • Philip00
                              Rookie
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 67

                              #29
                              Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

                              Anyone interest online asso. with this slider set?

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                              • EccentricMeat
                                MVP
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 3242

                                #30
                                Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

                                Originally posted by free24ride1
                                Yes you can on PC and Xbox 360. As for the problems I'm seeing, it's the same on what you get User vs CPU, which you listed here.
                                http://www.operationsports.com/Eccen...-cpu-gameplay/

                                About using the quick game slider set, I think I'll use the changes on offline association except the player speed, game speed, quickness and speed since you can't change player speed on My Career.

                                Slimm44's latest roster, which I just downloaded, also has coach profiles fastbreak on all the current 30 NBA teams on 0. I don't know if your values would still apply.

                                I'm not so sure about your injury sliders though.. each season I get atleast 1-3 players in the league get injuries which lasts for a season. I've simmed games to see how the injuries would work out. Is this normal?
                                If you use the Quick Game sliders with the Coach Profile edits I mentioned, almost all of the issues should be fixed. If you're getting realistic result from slim44's Coach Profile edits, then leave them be and enjoy!


                                Originally posted by Hot Kidd
                                Seeing on avg 80-85 shots from opp teams with 10-15 3s per game. No issues there. Driving the lane is not a problem, its just that wings take the shots bigs should be taking.

                                What impact does off awareness have on this issue?
                                Offensive Awareness, in my tests, has a direct effect on the type of offense the AI runs. The higher the Offensive Awareness, the more likely the AI is to attack the basket, run a quicker offense, and ignore their bigs.

                                Which teams are you seeing this issue with? On the teams that actively use their bigs in the post IRL, I am seeing an accurate portrayal of their offense in-game.

                                Originally posted by Philip00
                                I think with cpu hustle 25 is more ralistic because for me the cpu noly did about 4 points od their fast breaks now good about 10-12
                                I'll take a look at this. I was getting some pretty good results with Hustle set to 15, but I'll give 25 a try.
                                My Slider Threads
                                NBA 2K25 "The Eccentric Edition" Realistic Slider Set
                                The "Movement" Sliders Explained
                                The "Defense" Sliders Explained

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