NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

**mango_prom** · 11-10-2012, 05:42 AM

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

Originally posted by EccentricMeat

You're not hijacking at all! I'm actually enjoying the discussion, and it's making me want to REALLY go back to playing 2k11. That game was the benchmark for basketball games, and somehow 2k has just failed to live up to its own creation.

And the sad thing about it is, 2k11 not only has the vastly superior gameplay, but they have the superior graphics and player models, too! The only thing 2k13 has over 2k11 is the control scheme and the animations.

The perfect basketball game would be 2k11 with 2k12's control scheme and 2k13's animations.

2k11 is still great today. The only downside to me is that the AI is unable to fight through off ball screens resulting in unrealistic amounts of 3s and mid range shots by role players. Other than that, I'd take 2k11 with enhanced playbooks over 2k13 anytime.
Just played a few games yesterday and it's amazing how good contact animations were implemented. The game just feels 'right'.

Regarding your sliders, now I know attack the basket has to be lowered in order to make the AI stop the paint spamming, on the other hand it seems like lowering this tendency alters the way PGs behave in PnR situations.
I often see PGs not reacting to the pick at all, which makes playmakers much less effective since the AI won't trigger any reaction from the screener before the PG starts a move, so the whole offense collapses.

Lowering ball handling to 0 (I liked it that way since 2k11) doesn't work because the AI is too passive even with attack the basket set to 100.

Do you have any other ideas maybe?

**mkharsh33** · 11-10-2012, 08:51 AM

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

If you guys don't care, here are the SLIDERS (not settings - I'd have to look those up) that I'm using for NBA 2K11:

OFFENSE (User / CPU):
Inside Shot Success: 47 / 45
Close Shot Success: 47 / 45
Mid-Range Success: 50 / 47
3-Pt Success: 50
Layup Success: 49 / 47
Dunk Success: 49
Dunk In Traffic Success: 49
Pass Accuracy: 49 / 40
Alley-Oop Success: 49
Contact Shot Success: 43 / 42

DEFENSE (User / CPU):
Driving Contact Shot Frequency: 100
Inside Contact Shot Frequency: 100
Help Defense Strength: 65
Steal Success: 50

ATTRIBUTES (User / CPU):
Quickness: 25 / 75
Vertical: 45 / 30
Strength: 50 / 45
Stamina: 45
Durability: 50
Hustle: 50
Ball Handling: 50
Hands: 95
Dunking Ability: 35
On Ball Defense: 100
Stealing: 50
Blocking: 25 / 100
Offensive Awareness: 100
Defensive Awareness: 100
Offensive Rebounding: 100
Defensive Rebounding: 100
Clutch Factor: 0
Consistency: 50
Fatigue Rate: 55
Injury Frequency: 49
Injury Severity: 48

TENDENCIES (User / CPU):
Take Inside Shots: 0
Take Close Shots: 0
Take Mid-Range Shots: 0
Take 3-PTShots: 0
Attack The Basket:0
Look For Post Players: 0
Throw Alley Oops: 0
Attempt Dunks: 0
Attempt Putbacks: 100
Throw Flashy Passes: 45
Commit Fouls: 100
Play Passing Lanes: 20
Go For On Ball Steals: 15
Contest Shots: 100
Backdoor Cuts: 0

FOULS:
- All Fouls set at 100 (User & CPU) except:
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**mango_prom** · 11-10-2012, 09:24 AM

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

Great, thanks. I've never tried every tendency at 0. Are star players still dominating? I'm thinking about aggressive PGs like Rose driving and post players still being fed down low?

Also, do you really get realistic free throw attempts with contact being that high?
I like to run cpu vs cpu and with everything at 100 I often saw 40 to 50 free throws per game.

**mkharsh33** · 11-10-2012, 10:45 AM

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

Originally posted by mango_prom

Great, thanks. I've never tried every tendency at 0. Are star players still dominating? I'm thinking about aggressive PGs like Rose driving and post players still being fed down low?

Also, do you really get realistic free throw attempts with contact being that high?
I like to run cpu vs cpu and with everything at 100 I often saw 40 to 50 free throws per game.

Stars will shine because the way the ROSTER TENDENCIES were created by those of us who made them. Unlike 2K13, in 2K11 guys like, say, Dominique Wilkins will get his shots but not an overabundance of them. It plays quite real.

PG's will still be aggressive because their individual tendencies come into play, and by giving the cpu a huge bonus in quickness they will try to blow past the user defender.

FT attempts vary - I've had games where I've shot over 40 and I've had some where it was 18-25. I don't want cookie cutter games... I love variety.

The #1 item I use when creating sliders: can I LOSE using them? If I can, then I know I'm on the right track. #2: when I play 10 games, do I see a wide variety of scores and things coming out?

I do NOT start creating my sliders by looking at shooting percentages - I start with FLOW OF GAME and the above 2 items. The reason why slider sets are often different from others here is because many of them start with statistics and THEN try to fix things. In my humble opinion, that's bass ackwards. I can fix shooting percentages AFTER I've fixed the bumping, strength, and quickness issues - I want the animations to come out. So this set is what I've been using for over a year or so, and I absolutely LOVE 2K11. I only bought 2K13 for current rosters, so I don't know how they play out in the classic sets because I've never used them in 2K13.

**Leon43** · 11-10-2012, 11:38 AM

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

Very easy to win with your 1.3 version. Needs to be changed.

**mj68** · 11-10-2012, 02:05 PM

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

im stuck with 2k 13 but i actually like how smooth it is, and fluid, i actually made some changes that slowed down the pace which has made the game better now, i have lowered all teams offensive tempos and attack basket to 45 on coach profiles and wow! that made a difference, i think i need to just start a season now and enjoy the game, i never play on line i only play against the computer and pro level, usually i play all-star but for some reason it felt like on all star the AI is on crack

**Koste68** · 11-10-2012, 05:29 PM

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

Do coach profiles not save? I put in the values for fast break & run plays for every coach but it always resets every time i turn the game off

Am I doing something wrong?

**mkharsh33** · 11-10-2012, 05:53 PM

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

Originally posted by Koste68

Do coach profiles not save? I put in the values for fast break & run plays for every coach but it always resets every time i turn the game off

Am I doing something wrong?

they are a ROSTER save and NOT a settings or profile save. You need to save them with the ROSTER you are using...if not, they won't keep.

**Koste68** · 11-10-2012, 05:57 PM

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

Originally posted by mkharsh33

they are a ROSTER save and NOT a settings or profile save. You need to save them with the ROSTER you are using...if not, they won't keep.

Thanks i appreciate the quick response, are there any rosters you'd recommend on the 2kshare for 360 that don't require me to rehash/resign or download modio and do it offline becuase i don't want to go through the hassle of doing that

**EccentricMeat** · 11-10-2012, 05:59 PM

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

Originally posted by Leon43

Very easy to win with your 1.3 version. Needs to be changed.

Play some more games with them before making any changes. I played one game and blew out the CPU by 20, but then my very next game I won on a buzzer-beating 3.

Variety is a good thing. Not every game in the NBA is back-and-forth. Some times one team just dominates the other.

**mkharsh33** · 11-10-2012, 06:11 PM

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

Originally posted by Koste68

Thanks i appreciate the quick response, are there any rosters you'd recommend on the 2kshare for 360 that don't require me to rehash/resign or download modio and do it offline becuase i don't want to go through the hassle of doing that

Glad to help... I'd suggest just going through some of the rosters threads here at OS - some very talented people here who provide good rosters.

**Leon43** · 11-10-2012, 11:14 PM

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

Originally posted by EccentricMeat

Play some more games with them before making any changes. I played one game and blew out the CPU by 20, but then my very next game I won on a buzzer-beating 3.

Variety is a good thing. Not every game in the NBA is back-and-forth. Some times one team just dominates the other.

Ok! Thanks.

**SlayersRageX** · 11-11-2012, 10:53 AM

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

This may have been covered, and if it has I'm sorry...but what roster do I use with this set?

**EccentricMeat** · 11-11-2012, 05:23 PM

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

Originally posted by SlayersRageX

This may have been covered, and if it has I'm sorry...but what roster do I use with this set?

You can use the 2k default rosters or any custrom roster that only has ratings and/or aesthetic updates.

If a roster has tendency or Coach Profile updates, I'm not sure how well these sliders will work with it.

**EccentricMeat** · 11-11-2012, 05:44 PM

Re: NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

New Update!

Since I've had time to just play the game instead of trying to dissect my own sliders, I got quite a few games in over the weekend. Because of this, I noticed a few things that needed to be tweaked and fine-tuned. Now, not only does the game play out EXTREMELY smooth and fluid (especially with the Offline Association settings), but the stats that I've been getting have been phenomenal. Oh, and the newest version adds a slight difficulty boost, which is nice

All new values will be in BOLD.

Enjoy!

NBA 2k13 "The Eccentric Edition" - All-Star Slider Set

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