MyTeam Mobile Discussion

[mfresh94]

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If I play 50 hours a rival event, it'd probably be my only event to play then lol.


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[Shokase]

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How much did u play? I suppose I can do that.


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8 hours per day if u r efficient at tapping.

[Shokase]

re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

Btw what r the chances some1 here owns a new generation honda accord?

[DCGMoo]

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I'm going to revise my original question. Hopefully get some replies from the rest of the community besides Shokase (feel free to reply too Shokase)


Conditions: 12.5 picks per board clear on average. We'll pretend that the sample size is big enough that this holds true.

Scenario 1: You have a 1/100 chance per board clear of an epic or legendary to simplify things. 9/10 of those will be epics and 1/10 of those will be legendary.

Scenario 1 expected rate after 1000 board clears (12500 picks) would be 9 epics, 1 legendary. However you can easily, EASILY have more OR less.

Scenario 2: Every exactly 150 board clears you WILL get an epic. Every 1500 board clears instead of an epic you get a legendary.

Scenario 2 rate after 1000 board clears would be 6 epics, 2/3rds of the way to 7, and 500 board clears from your legendary.

Which would people prefer? How much "expected value" would you trade for certainty? I am actually curious what the breakdown of this forum looks like.

I think it's somewhat irrelevant. The idea of Rivals is to introduce a new play mode and more ways to get cards. I doubt seriously that any such changes would be made.

That said... I'm a gambler. Stick with the random odds IMO.

[fierzer]

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I'm going to revise my original question. Hopefully get some replies from the rest of the community besides Shokase (feel free to reply too Shokase)


Conditions: 12.5 picks per board clear on average. We'll pretend that the sample size is big enough that this holds true.

Scenario 1: You have a 1/100 chance per board clear of an epic or legendary to simplify things. 9/10 of those will be epics and 1/10 of those will be legendary.

Scenario 1 expected rate after 1000 board clears (12500 picks) would be 9 epics, 1 legendary. However you can easily, EASILY have more OR less.

Scenario 2: Every exactly 150 board clears you WILL get an epic. Every 1500 board clears instead of an epic you get a legendary.

Scenario 2 rate after 1000 board clears would be 6 epics, 2/3rds of the way to 7, and 500 board clears from your legendary.

Which would people prefer? How much "expected value" would you trade for certainty? I am actually curious what the breakdown of this forum looks like.

I think it comes down to their practicality rather than preference. In an ideal world you could have a system that includes a mix of both, but due to a variety of factors Scenario 1 is best for the game currently (which I'm sure is why they chose it). In a newer game like this, where the startup is slow but the budget gets bigger if the popularity continues growing, it's not wise to use Scenario 2. Mostly because RNG has always been the most frustrating yet most effective way into keeping a userbase. Scenario 2 would be like going to the Casino and being told if I play 20,000 hands of Black Jack I will definitely be rewarded. Yeah the scenario is what the majority probably wants, but it's not a good system for a growing game (and also less fun).

I do feel they could implement Scenario 2 without a problem also though. By keeping the numbers of Scenario 1, but having drastically higher numbers for Scenario 2. Like 1000 board clears as the first milestone for a guaranteed Epic, and 3000 board clears as the next milestone for a guaranteed Legendary (18k wins seems fair if we're compounding both systems). It would keep our current model while still providing an incentive for players who haven't had the best of luck.

[fierzer]

re: MyTeam Mobile Discussion

I'm going to revise my original question. Hopefully get some replies from the rest of the community besides Shokase (feel free to reply too Shokase)


Conditions: 12.5 picks per board clear on average. We'll pretend that the sample size is big enough that this holds true.

Scenario 1: You have a 1/100 chance per board clear of an epic or legendary to simplify things. 9/10 of those will be epics and 1/10 of those will be legendary.

Scenario 1 expected rate after 1000 board clears (12500 picks) would be 9 epics, 1 legendary. However you can easily, EASILY have more OR less.

Scenario 2: Every exactly 150 board clears you WILL get an epic. Every 1500 board clears instead of an epic you get a legendary.

Scenario 2 rate after 1000 board clears would be 6 epics, 2/3rds of the way to 7, and 500 board clears from your legendary.

Which would people prefer? How much "expected value" would you trade for certainty? I am actually curious what the breakdown of this forum looks like.

I think it comes down to practicality rather than preference. In an ideal world you could have a system that includes a mix of both, but due to a variety of factors Scenario 1 is best for the game currently (which I'm sure is why they chose it). In a newer game like this, where the startup is slow but the budget gets bigger if the popularity continues growing, it's not wise to use Scenario 2. Mostly because RNG has always been the most frustrating yet most effective way into keeping a userbase. Scenario 2 would be like going to the Casino and being told if I play 20,000 hands of Black Jack I will definitely be rewarded. Yeah the scenario is what the majority probably wants (certainty), but it's not a good system for a growing game.

I do feel they could implement Scenario 2 without a problem also though. By keeping the numbers of Scenario 1, but having drastically higher numbers for Scenario 2. Like 1000 board clears as the first milestone for a guaranteed Epic, and 3000 board clears as the next milestone for a guaranteed Legendary (18k wins seems fair if we're compounding both systems). It would keep our current model while still providing an incentive for players who haven't had the best of luck.

[Anchen]

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I think it comes down to their practicality rather than preference. In an ideal world you could have a system that includes a mix of both, but due to a variety of factors Scenario 1 is best for the game currently (which I'm sure is why they chose it). In a newer game like this, where the startup is slow but the budget gets bigger if the popularity continues growing, it's not wise to use Scenario 2. Mostly because RNG has always been the most frustrating yet most effective way into keeping a userbase. Scenario 2 would be like going to the Casino and being told if I play 20,000 hands of Black Jack I will definitely be rewarded. Yeah the scenario is what the majority probably wants, but it's not a good system for a growing game (and also less fun).

I do feel they could implement Scenario 2 without a problem also though. By keeping the numbers of Scenario 1, but having drastically higher numbers for Scenario 2. Like 1000 board clears as the first milestone for a guaranteed Epic, and 3000 board clears as the next milestone for a guaranteed Legendary (18k wins seems fair if we're compounding both systems). It would keep our current model while still providing an incentive for players who haven't had the best of luck.

Well, Rivals *is* basically scenario 2. You can grind a bunch more (in a limited time) and you WILL get something (if we ignore that you are still doing scenario 1 in the process and pretend the only reward for rivals was the fixed rewards). So they are mixing it in in a way.

[fierzer]

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Well, Rivals *is* basically scenario 2. You can grind a bunch more (in a limited time) and you WILL get something (if we ignore that you are still doing scenario 1 in the process and pretend the only reward for rivals was the fixed rewards). So they are mixing it in in a way.

yeah I just realized that after I posted, either way I hope they don't try to appease to the general public and try to implement too much of scenario 2. The quick games and grinding itself is a bore, but the random luck is what keeps the game very interesting

[Shokase]

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yeah I just realized that after I posted, either way I hope they don't try to appease to the general public and try to implement too much of scenario 2. The quick games and grinding itself is a bore, but the random luck is what keeps the game very interesting

Well in that case i hope u go through a 10,000 pick stretch of no epics or legendaries. See how much fun ull be having than.

[fierzer]

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The biggest problem though is that Scenario 2 puts way too much pressure on the devs. The only way to keep interest consistently high is to continually release new content and new rewards. It works in big budget MMO's, but it's basically a death sentence for no longetivity in any mobile games

[NWGamePapi]

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yeah I just realized that after I posted, either way I hope they don't try to appease to the general public and try to implement too much of scenario 2. The quick games and grinding itself is a bore, but the random luck is what keeps the game very interesting

Quick Games = a bore

Rivals = Quick Games

This whole game sans the highly non interactive season mode = a bore.

WTF are we playing

[fierzer]

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Well in that case i hope u go through a 10,000 pick stretch of no epics or legendaries. See how much fun ull be having than.

It's a double edged sword. You can feel on top of the world if you luck out and get 2 legendarys within 2k picks, or feel like crap if you don't draft any legendary after 20k picks. It may not always be fair, but it's what keeps the game interesting.

Could you imagine playing this game and basically being told to keep grinding cards and you'll receive a reward after 2k picks? With nothing in between? That is scenario 2, and yes it would be boring because it's not like we play quick games for the fun of the card matchups or finger tapping

[DCGMooo]

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Quick Games = a bore

Rivals = Quick Games

This whole game sans the highly non interactive season mode = a bore.

WTF are we playing

Stop it, i'm about to pump another $300 into packs...dont make me hesitate on my impulse. This game IS good enough to last forever

[Anchen]

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Well in that case i hope u go through a 10,000 pick stretch of no epics or legendaries. See how much fun ull be having than.

So how high would the guarantee epic have to be before you would prefer chance? Epic guaranteed every 7000 picks or a chance of an epic at 1/2000. 1/3000? I really am curious shokase.

[Anchen]

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Stop it, i'm about to pump another $300 into packs...dont make me hesitate on my impulse. This game IS good enough to last forever

It's probably not good enough to last forever lol. I hope it lasts long enough to get a new version next year with more significant upgrades/play modes etc. I like this game as my casual time waster I can do while doing other stuff. And I've actually enjoyed reading this board which is probably why I still play.